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DrDoug

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I built my California King waterbed about forty years ago and change the mattress, liner and heater every ten years. Easy peasy and cheap. When I get bored with the way it looks I reupholster the headboard and rails. It's been solid and dependable with never a leak. That's saying something because we've had a lot of cats over the years and they all love (and loved) to camp out on the bed.

Nothing beats a heated (or cooled, in the summer) bed. That and the motion in the ocean when you need... :biggrin:
 

gorcorps

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Try a Casper. 100 day trial so you don't have to worry about not liking it
 

lxskllr

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I've bought exactly one mattress in my life, and that was a futon almost 30 years ago. My mother got me a mattress one year for jul. It's a mattress. Not much better than the one it replaced, and I'll probably have it the rest of my life. She got it so my back problems would be better. If a mattress fixes your back problems, you don't have back problems.
 

Pardus

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Been sleeping on one of these for over 5-years now. Sleeping on a regular mattress is so uncomfortable. Have a spare one that i take with me when i travel. Will never go back to a regular mattress.
 

notposting

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We have an older Sleep Number setup - dual zone queen, remote, frame. Best part? It was free.

Had it for about 10 years now, pretty great. Comfy and all that, but honestly, I have appreciated it the most when moving it - deflate, collapse down, and omg, so much better than a giant box spring and mattress to wrestle.
 

DrPizza

Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
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www.slatebrookfarm.com
It's this mattress:

https://www.sitnsleep.com/sealy-ideal-temp-firm

with this base:

https://www.sitnsleep.com/sealy-reflexion-4-adjustable-base

I think a ventilated mattress would be useful for hot nights.



I thought I was asking for a substantial discount, but his response makes me rethink how high their margins must be.
The mattress is just a bunch of coils of wire put together, covered in multiple layers of fabric & some type of foam or another. Total cost of materials + manufacturing is probably around $100. And, all those advertising expenses. So yeah, a little room for mark-up, commissions, etc.

You know what else is useful for hot nights? This new invention called air conditioning, heard of it yet? Or are you still trying to rationalize spending $6k on a mattress, and the industry sales tactics they used to convince you the mattress was awesome.
 

HeXen

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$400 for entire bed including frame, 8 yrs ago...still sleep like a baby. I would seriously never spend much for something to sleep and fuck on, I can sleep anywhere.
 
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gorcorps

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$400 for entire bed including frame, 8 yrs ago...still sleep like a baby. I would seriously never spend much for something to sleep and fuck on, I can sleep anywhere.

Off topic, but where did this phrase come from? Nobody who has ever actually had a baby would use the term "sleep like a baby" in a positive light. Parents with babies look tired for a reason.
 

HeXen

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Off topic, but where did this phrase come from? Nobody who has ever actually had a baby would use the term "sleep like a baby" in a positive light. Parents with babies look tired for a reason.

That goes for most sayings in America. Half the language used in how people speak doesn't really make any sense either. Like how I was taught that i comes before e except after c. Then I see words that do an ei without a c even in it...and why is y only a vowel sometimes? Sometimes it is, others it isn't...makes no sense to me. I think proper English is a waste. As for sayings, I think many derive from the 1800's, ever generation just seems to pick it up and use it.
 

lxskllr

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Like how I was taught that i comes before e except after c. Then I see words that do an ei without a c even in it...and why is y only a vowel sometimes? Sometimes it is, others it isn't...makes no sense to me. I think proper English is a waste. As for sayings, I think many derive from the 1800's, ever generation just seems to pick it up and use it.
I think the saying is I before E except after C, sometimes W, and sometimes just cause LoL

:^D
 

gorcorps

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That goes for most sayings in America. Half the language used in how people speak doesn't really make any sense either. Like how I was taught that i comes before e except after c. Then I see words that do an ei without a c even in it...and why is y only a vowel sometimes? Sometimes it is, others it isn't...makes no sense to me. I think proper English is a waste. As for sayings, I think many derive from the 1800's, ever generation just seems to pick it up and use it.

We have several Japanese engineers at our facility, and they often ask for explanations of large words or phrases they haven't heard yet. Most of the time I have to apologize for not being able to explain inconsistent spelling, or a common phrase that I don't know the origin of, and admitting that I don't care for English much either. I usually end up learning something myself though, if they ask me to explain a term or phrase and I have to research.

I still couldn't find a good explanation for why they call NYC "The Big Apple". The best I could find involved horse racing back in the day, but that wasn't a very good explanation.
 

JulesMaximus

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I whole hardheartedly agree, every single seller has their 'own" model, mattresses are way over priced for what they are because you'll only buy a few over your lifetime.

I will say our bob-o-pedic was priced reasonably.

I prefer the Ted-o-pedic myself.
 

JEDI

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I hate mattress shopping. The entire industry colluded to make sure there are so many models and variations that you can't easily compare or price match. At least with car shopping, you have a general idea of what the dealer's invoice prices and incentives are. With mattress shopping, I feel like I was just throwing numbers out there into a void.

I went into the store and found an adjustable base that I liked ($1700) and an acceptable mattress ($5500), so $7200 total.

I asked the salesperson for his best deal for the two and he said $6800. I then countered with $6000 and he said, "You got it." No hesitation, no bargaining; he just accepted. And then on top of that, he threw in freebies without me even asking.

I left with the disconcerting feeling that maybe I paid too much with no way of knowing if I got a good deal or not. There's no truecar or edmunds for me to find out. The markups in that industry must be incredibly high. But again, I have no clue if they are. If anything, I'm glad it's over.
you just got no lube raped.

should have just bought your mattress at costco
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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The only way I'd ever pay that kind of money for a mattress is if it guaranteed I'd never have to sleep again.
 

JSt0rm

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the mattress I posted has the heat removal gel. It compares to those 4k to 6k beds in features.
 

JulesMaximus

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wha??
tire shopping a breeze!
tirerack reviews + Costco FTW!

turn in your man card

I've had better luck with Discount Tire. Costco prices aren't the best for tires and their selection is usually pretty limited.

But yeah, I'd totally buy a mattress from them.
 

Subyman

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Good lord, don't get sucked into expensive mattresses. Get a random mattress that is under $1k that feels decent. I've been wanting to try the Leesa or Casper ones just for fun.
 

Kaido

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Good lord, don't get sucked into expensive mattresses. Get a random mattress that is under $1k that feels decent. I've been wanting to try the Leesa or Casper ones just for fun.

Same. My goal when I build my house (someday...lol) is to throw in a pair of Murphy beds into every room, along with a Casper or Leesa. That way when family & friends visit, I can just move whatever's in the rooms & pop down the beds easily.
 

Carson Dyle

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Same. My goal when I build my house (someday...lol) is to throw in a pair of Murphy beds into every room, along with a Casper or Leesa. That way when family & friends visit, I can just move whatever's in the rooms & pop down the beds easily.

I'm lazy. Someone explain what these mattresses are. I take it they're some kind of easily stored lightweight or inflatable mattress?

* Edit *

n/m: I found that they're all foam mattresses.

http://sleepopolis.com/mattress-reviews/casper-vs-leesa-mattress-review/

(Huh. There's actually a website for mattress reviews. Go figure.)
 
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mrrman

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Go to http://www.us-mattress.com/ and shop there. They have all the major mattress and tell you the specs on them from size, coil gauge, number of coils, etc... take their price and specs if you want to shop local and compare that way.

And always buy a mattress a little firmer than you like. Most break in after a couple months and you can always add a topper to make if softer. But you can't make a soft mattress firmer.

I need to get a firm mattress while my wife wants a mid firm mattress. I am thinking of going the sleep number route. My back is messed up and firm only works for me.