Matrix Reloaded Question [Spoilers Inside]

PoonDaddy007

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Who is the other guy at the very end of the movie opposite of Neo on the table? Right before the 'to be concluded' comes up.

I think it's the guy that cut his hand earlier in the movie, the one that Agent Smith turned into ... Agent Smith.

Anyone know?
 

mchammer187

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he was the guy agent smith cloned himself into right before he was about to leave the matrix

when they were delivering the message from the oracle
 

Marauder-

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Dude - Loony Toons - Remember how Neo had a dream about Smith transforming people w/i the Matrix? That was one of his visions.

Then remember when they were leaving Zion that the guy w/ one of those crazy knives was going to st@b Neo but got stopped by the intrusion of that little guy? That's him - he was obviously the only survivor of the Zion attack. That's him.
 

PoonDaddy007

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Originally posted by: Marauder-
Dude - Loony Toons - Remember how Neo had a dream about Smith transforming people w/i the Matrix? That was one of his visions.

Then remember when they were leaving Zion that the guy w/ one of those crazy knives was going to st@b Neo but got stopped by the intrusion of that little guy? That's him - he was obviously the only survivor of the Zion attack. That's him.

yeah tha's what i thought. on another note. who is that little guys that loves neo?
 

RyanM

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Originally posted by: PoonDaddy007
Originally posted by: Marauder-
Dude - Loony Toons - Remember how Neo had a dream about Smith transforming people w/i the Matrix? That was one of his visions.

Then remember when they were leaving Zion that the guy w/ one of those crazy knives was going to st@b Neo but got stopped by the intrusion of that little guy? That's him - he was obviously the only survivor of the Zion attack. That's him.

yeah tha's what i thought. on another note. who is that little guys that loves neo?

He's called "Kid" in the movie, so I assume that he's the subject of the Animatrix short, "Kid's Story."
 

Marauder-

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You know - the Smith programs would IMMENSLY benefit from some of those ghost guys' phasing in/out programming.
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: MachFive
Originally posted by: PoonDaddy007
Originally posted by: Marauder-
Dude - Loony Toons - Remember how Neo had a dream about Smith transforming people w/i the Matrix? That was one of his visions.

Then remember when they were leaving Zion that the guy w/ one of those crazy knives was going to st@b Neo but got stopped by the intrusion of that little guy? That's him - he was obviously the only survivor of the Zion attack. That's him.

yeah tha's what i thought. on another note. who is that little guys that loves neo?

He's called "Kid" in the movie, so I assume that he's the subject of the Animatrix short, "Kid's Story."

which part was that?!

there were renansance part 1 + 2, detective's story, and the japanese fight scene. so which was kid's story and what was it about?
 

RyanM

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"Kid's Story" is going to be on the DVD. There are 9 total, and counting the internet ones and "Final Flight," only 5 have been released. 4 more have yet to be seen (except by those who downloaded it already.)
 

TerryMathews

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Originally posted by: PoonDaddy007
Who is the other guy at the very end of the movie opposite of Neo on the table? Right before the 'to be concluded' comes up.

I think it's the guy that cut his hand earlier in the movie, the one that Agent Smith turned into ... Agent Smith.

Anyone know?

In short, Smith 'infected' the consciousness of the person at the telephone in the beginning. Replaced his consciousness, if you will. So, when whoever he was jacked out, it was the Smith program that took residence in that guy's brain.
 

Xenon14

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Yup, that's the parallel.... we infected the matrix and the programs are infecting the real world. Matrix reloaded brought a lot to be discussed. great film
 

slydecix

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Originally posted by: TerryMathews
Originally posted by: PoonDaddy007
Who is the other guy at the very end of the movie opposite of Neo on the table? Right before the 'to be concluded' comes up.

I think it's the guy that cut his hand earlier in the movie, the one that Agent Smith turned into ... Agent Smith.

Anyone know?

In short, Smith 'infected' the consciousness of the person at the telephone in the beginning. Replaced his consciousness, if you will. So, when whoever he was jacked out, it was the Smith program that took residence in that guy's brain.

Anyone ever seen the movie 13th Floor? ...very similar thing happened
 

TerryMathews

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At the end, do you think that they are truly outside of the system, or are they just in another program (maybe a different level or ring, perhaps).

Some of the computer symbolism is pretty cool. To me, it was pretty obvious that Smith is now a virus.
 

EvilYoda

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Originally posted by: Xenon14
Yup, that's the parallel.... we infected the matrix and the programs are infecting the real world. Matrix reloaded brought a lot to be discussed. great film

And on the same note, that's why I think Neo developed more powers at the end, and it wasn't an EMP or something...Agent Smith in the asphalt fight scene talked about how he got destroyed by Neo, but now had part of Neo in his "coding" now, even tho he didn't understand it...likewise, I think Neo has some extra abilities now in the real world...takes something substancial to cause a difference (just like the last movie), and in this one, I think it was the death of Trinity.
 

imported_vr6

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so at the very end, zion was already destroyed? i thought it was some kind of counter-attacked that has failed and that zion was still safe?

the movie wasn't very kind when it comes to explaining..
 

KingNothing

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Originally posted by: TerryMathews
At the end, do you think that they are truly outside of the system, or are they just in another program (maybe a different level or ring, perhaps).

Some of the computer symbolism is pretty cool. To me, it was pretty obvious that Smith is now a virus.

I thought it was cool when they ssh'd into the emergency power grid to shut it down. Anyone remember the IP address? I'm seeing it again tomorrow night so I'll try to grab it then.
 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: KingNothing
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
At the end, do you think that they are truly outside of the system, or are they just in another program (maybe a different level or ring, perhaps).

Some of the computer symbolism is pretty cool. To me, it was pretty obvious that Smith is now a virus.

I thought it was cool when they ssh'd into the emergency power grid to shut it down. Anyone remember the IP address? I'm seeing it again tomorrow night so I'll try to grab it then.

10.2.2.2
 

KingNothing

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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: KingNothing
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
At the end, do you think that they are truly outside of the system, or are they just in another program (maybe a different level or ring, perhaps).

Some of the computer symbolism is pretty cool. To me, it was pretty obvious that Smith is now a virus.

I thought it was cool when they ssh'd into the emergency power grid to shut it down. Anyone remember the IP address? I'm seeing it again tomorrow night so I'll try to grab it then.

10.2.2.2

Doesn't respond to pings or ssh. Too bad. :(
 

Yzzim

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This is kinda OT, but...

The Architect said that The Matrix had been created Six times, and each time Zion was destroyed, only to again come about. So if that is true, would Zion be another Matrix or something? :confused: