Mathematical proof for God's existence

JupiterJones

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God does exist.

There are several philosophical proofs for this fact. Ontological, Cosmological, Mystical and Theological proofs have been discussed in philosophical circles during last milleniums.

Gödel worked on it and now mathematical proof based on the set theory and third order modal logic is available. Professor Melvin Fitting of mathematics department of The City University of New York formalized it in his book, Types, Tableaus, and Godel's God (Trends in Logic, V. 12)

It is not easy to understand the proof for unskilled mind. In fact if one attempts to understand it finds it impossible if prerequisite mathematics and logical knowledge is not gained first.

To understand the proof it is required to gain knowledge of the following subjects first. One can obtain the knowledge by reading books or choosing the easier path of going to the nearest University, Math or Philosophy departments and taking necessary logic courses. List of some necessary books that cover the prerequisites can be found in the reference section.

Prepositional logic
Predicate logic
Proof trees
Modal logic
Possible worlds semantics
Mathematical set theory

Familiarity with the following is also required but they are described in the first chapters of the book.

Third order modal logic
Classical logic basic tableaus
Classical logic higher order tableaus
Modal tableaus
Schutte logic types

This book is the final word for those who like to take the mental step to believe by mind first. Believing by heart and direct connection hopefully follows.

Other valuable references:

Introduction to logic by Prof. Roderic A. Girle

Modal logics and philosophy by Prof. Roderic A. Girle



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js1973

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MichaelD

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Nice troll. I give it an 8.7/10

- M4H

Nice. :) "Mathematical proof for God's existence" has got to be one of the better Troll Thread Titles....EVER!
 

PsychoAndy

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:( I was expecting a homer simpson-esque method to find the answer to God's existance, using derivatives and linear algebra.
 

crt1530

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Oh come on...this is ripped directly from a webpage. This is plagiarized without citation. No way is this an 8.7. I'd say 5.7/10 TOPS.
 

Pastore

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Quote from that Amazon Page:

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hehehe
 

Radiohead

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Originally posted by: crt1530
Oh come on...this is ripped directly from a webpage. This is plagiarized without citation. No way is this an 8.7. I'd say 5.7/10 TOPS.

8.7!!! More like a 4.7823497823094802348230482/10
 

eakers

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i already have a book that prooves that god exists.

((but i am interested in reading this one.))

 

MichaelD

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Originally posted by: eakers
i already have a book that prooves that god exists.

((but i am interested in reading this one.))

You have the Fredrick's of Hollywood Naughty But Nice Christmas Catalog? Can I borrow it...for about five minutes? :D
 
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Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: eakers
i already have a book that prooves that god exists.

((but i am interested in reading this one.))

You have the Fredrick's of Hollywood Naughty But Nice Christmas Catalog? Can I borrow it...for about five minutes? :D

Five minutes?

/points
/laughs

Go for it, Speedy Gonzalez. :D

- M4H
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: PastorDon
God does exist.

There are several philosophical proofs for this fact. Ontological, Cosmological, Mystical and Theological proofs have been discussed in philosophical circles during last milleniums.

Gödel worked on it and now mathematical proof based on the set theory and third order modal logic is available. Professor Melvin Fitting of mathematics department of The City University of New York formalized it in his book, Types, Tableaus, and Godel's God (Trends in Logic, V. 12)

It is not easy to understand the proof for unskilled mind. In fact if one attempts to understand it finds it impossible if prerequisite mathematics and logical knowledge is not gained first.

To understand the proof it is required to gain knowledge of the following subjects first. One can obtain the knowledge by reading books or choosing the easier path of going to the nearest University, Math or Philosophy departments and taking necessary logic courses. List of some necessary books that cover the prerequisites can be found in the reference section.

Prepositional logic
Predicate logic
Proof trees
Modal logic
Possible worlds semantics
Mathematical set theory

Familiarity with the following is also required but they are described in the first chapters of the book.

Third order modal logic
Classical logic basic tableaus
Classical logic higher order tableaus
Modal tableaus
Schutte logic types

This book is the final word for those who like to take the mental step to believe by mind first. Believing by heart and direct connection hopefully follows.

Other valuable references:

Introduction to logic by Prof. Roderic A. Girle

Modal logics and philosophy by Prof. Roderic A. Girle


Do you also have to be familiar with the concept of "grammar" to understand these complex theories?
 

Jfur

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: eakers
i already have a book that prooves that god exists.

((but i am interested in reading this one.))

You have the Fredrick's of Hollywood Naughty But Nice Christmas Catalog? Can I borrow it...for about five minutes? :D


lol :)
 

Ameesh

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There are several philosophical proofs for this fact. Ontological, Cosmological, Mystical and Theological proofs


hahahaha the only proofs that matter are mathamatical ones.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Ameesh
There are several philosophical proofs for this fact. Ontological, Cosmological, Mystical and Theological proofs


hahahaha the only proofs that matter are mathamatical ones.

bingo, and even then, the only proofs that matter are those that have withstood scrutiny...

*cough* sobel *cough*
 

dullard

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Anybody know the main arguement of that book? There is no way I'll pay $60 for it. All math proofs I've seen so far have had major logic flaws, but still I'd like to see another.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: crt1530
Oh come on...this is ripped directly from a webpage. This is plagiarized without citation. No way is this an 8.7. I'd say 5.7/10 TOPS.


No, this is the only junk he every puts on this board, I give him a 0.666 ;)

 

JupiterJones

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Do you also have to be familiar with the concept of "grammar" to understand these complex theories?

Nope.
 
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Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Nice troll. I give it an 8.7/10

- M4H

8.7? Please

edit: I saw Corn's post.

I still give it an e/10

As a troll thread in and of itself, it would have normally been quite effective, had it not been defused by the early detection and plagarism spotting. :) I think you'd be inclined to agree that religion-based threads tend to detonate rapidly on ATOT.

And as mentioned above, punishment was meted out. :)

- M4H