SoulAssassin
Diamond Member
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Ya know that's why man I be telling you all
the time man, you know LOVE,
that word love is a very serious thing, and
if you don't watch out I tell ya
that (Love's gonna get you) because a lot of
people out here say "i love my
car" or "I love my chain" or or "I'm
just in love with that girl over
there" so far all the people out there that
fall in love with material items
we gonna bump the beat a lil' something like this
the time man, you know LOVE,
that word love is a very serious thing, and
if you don't watch out I tell ya
that (Love's gonna get you) because a lot of
people out here say "i love my
car" or "I love my chain" or or "I'm
just in love with that girl over
there" so far all the people out there that
fall in love with material items
we gonna bump the beat a lil' something like this
sportage
Lifer
- Feb 1, 2008
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Great wealth leads to extremes.
Drugs end up being that ultimate extreme.
Drugs lead to mysery and death.
Can't take it with you... (the drugs or the $$$)
If I had ultimate wealth, I'd get the best education exploring everything.
Money won?t bring you satisfaction. A rich mind will.
You'd have the opportunity to explore any field you desire.
Pilot, nerosurgeron, explorer, designer, builder, 7-11 clerk (well maybe not that).
Who knows, you might find travel and helping the very poor in 3rd world countries
to be your ultimate reward.
Money just to have shit would get very old very fast.
Drugs end up being that ultimate extreme.
Drugs lead to mysery and death.
Can't take it with you... (the drugs or the $$$)
If I had ultimate wealth, I'd get the best education exploring everything.
Money won?t bring you satisfaction. A rich mind will.
You'd have the opportunity to explore any field you desire.
Pilot, nerosurgeron, explorer, designer, builder, 7-11 clerk (well maybe not that).
Who knows, you might find travel and helping the very poor in 3rd world countries
to be your ultimate reward.
Money just to have shit would get very old very fast.
- Sep 4, 2006
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I am uncorruptible when it comes to drugs or alcohol.
I already plan to never drink alcohol or do any recreational drugs. (Only would use drugs for medical purposes) Yes, I would get a great education as well. I love education.While going to college I would be blowing shit up though.
Fun-fun-fun to be had with explosives. (Not talkin' about yah small fire-crackers) Neurosurgeon is kinda weird job. I wouldn't be that.
Takes too much schooling anyway. (Although, that's ironic for me)With my true wealth, I could give infinite money to everyone... and everyone could have no worries about money or what they couldn't have, materialistically at least.
Although, my scenario is nothing people imagine.
SketchMaster
Diamond Member
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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
lol!!! Why would I get frivolous lawsuits? Kidnapping? Not going to happen. Same for extortion! I can only imagine people being jealous, but... I would not be such a stingy person with my wealth. Surely I would do great things for people.
Be alone? YOU JOKING?! I'D HAVE ALL THE HOOKERS AND BLOW I'D EVER WANT!!!
I'd probably take up flying jet fighters.
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
I am uncorruptible when it comes to drugs or alcohol.
While going to college I would be blowing shit up though.
Neurosurgeon is kinda weird job. I wouldn't be that.
With my true wealth, I could give infinite money to everyone... and everyone could have no worries about money or what they couldn't have, materialistically at least.
Although, my scenario is nothing people imagine.
God, please tell me I wasn't this clueless when I was 18...
Kid, I'm 23 so I'm still pretty young but I'll tell you that know nothing about the world and need be shown what it is REALLY like to live without money and how LUCKY you really are for what you?ve got RIGHT NOW.
When was the last time even you thanked your parents for ANYTHING, for just being there for you when you needed them?
James3shin
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Originally posted by: SketchMaster
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
lol!!! Why would I get frivolous lawsuits? Kidnapping? Not going to happen. Same for extortion! I can only imagine people being jealous, but... I would not be such a stingy person with my wealth. Surely I would do great things for people.
Be alone? YOU JOKING?! I'D HAVE ALL THE HOOKERS AND BLOW I'D EVER WANT!!!
I'd probably take up flying jet fighters.
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
I am uncorruptible when it comes to drugs or alcohol.
While going to college I would be blowing shit up though.
Neurosurgeon is kinda weird job. I wouldn't be that.
With my true wealth, I could give infinite money to everyone... and everyone could have no worries about money or what they couldn't have, materialistically at least.
Although, my scenario is nothing people imagine.
God, please tell me I wasn't this clueless when I was 18...
Kid, I'm 23 so I'm still pretty young but I'll tell you that know nothing about the world and need be shown what it is REALLY like to live without money and how LUCKY you really are for what you?ve got RIGHT NOW.
When was the last time even you thanked your parents for ANYTHING?
Yesterday.
I thank them for a lot of things. They pay for my college, and I said they didn't have to get me anything this christmas because they do that already. Already a big gift. They are only paying for the time I am at this community college, after that I pay.I know how "lucky" I am. I know what other peoples living conditions are, and I grew up fucking poor. Maybe not third-world country poor. -_- We could barely afford a car when I was five, and it was a horrible one at that. It wasn't until I was 10 that we moved into a nice neighborhood with a decent house. I was extremely happy when we moved there. We only lived there because my father worked a lot of overtime as a police officer.
SketchMaster
Diamond Member
- Feb 23, 2005
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If you were really grateful you wouldn't be sitting in front of a computer (that I'm sure your parents bought) and whine about how crappy they are making your life and how they need to get their act together when you won't even go out and get a job.
You're 18, start acting like it.
You're 18, start acting like it.
- Sep 4, 2006
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Nope, bought my own computer. Took me years of saving actually. My parents actually don't buy me anything usually, besides on Christmas and on my birthday. I always thank them. They did get me a bike for my high school graduation after a few months of me saying, "You really don't need to."
I'm frustrated with what they did because they promised something and didn't keep the promise. I never wanted to move here, and they forced me to. I really didn't have an option... "Go to work full time forever, and live in very poor living conditions with no hope of ever getting forward, possible death, or live with your parents and go to college and eventually live in something nice. Oh and college ends up getting you a higher paid job, yeah it actually ends up making you earn more in one year than you would working four when you get out. Your choice, you know, always could move out and be a loser."
What would you choose?
SketchMaster
Diamond Member
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I would do what I and many others have done, get a job AND go to school.
You make it sound like your parents have you trapped and there is no escape, but really you are just finding excuses to be lazy.
No car? Find a job you can bike to, if it?s still too far then bike to a bus stop and take the bus then earn money to buy a $500 beater and work your way up.
YOU are holding YOURSELF back, no one else.
You make it sound like your parents have you trapped and there is no escape, but really you are just finding excuses to be lazy.
No car? Find a job you can bike to, if it?s still too far then bike to a bus stop and take the bus then earn money to buy a $500 beater and work your way up.
YOU are holding YOURSELF back, no one else.
dullard
Elite Member
- May 21, 2001
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A) Money does NOT bring happiness. That is a proven fact.
B) Lack of money brings unhappiness. That is a proven fact.
You appear to be confusing A with B.
When you don't have enough money to get the necessities in life, then you are unhappy. When you get the necessities, you become more happy. Thus, initially, money brings happiness. But that trend ends quite soon. Once you have the necessities taken care of, then MORE money doesn't bring more happiness. You cross into category A.
The easiest examples are in the extremes. If you give a starving person money for food and shelter, he will be happy. His lack of money was removed, thus his happiness increased. But, if you give Bill Gates a million dollars, he won't be any more happy than before. Your money brought him no happiness at all.
The cutoff will vary from person to person, but often it is lower than most people think. Once your basic necessities are taken care of (food, shelter, etc), then you likely are in category A. If I gave you $5000 for a trip, you will be temporarilly happy. But once the trip is over, you'll be no more happy afterwards than before. Same goes with a bigger house, a nicer car, more electronics. Generally it is just a temporary feeling that doesn't last. The money ultimately didn't make you happier. Why? Because you just want something bigger and better than what you just got. The money didn't truely end your wants, it just changed the wants.
For example, suppose you wanted a 40" plamsa TV. Fine, but if give you money for it, you'll be no happier in 1 year then you are now. Why? Because in 1 year, you'll want a whole in-home theater and not just a measly 40" plasma TV. You still don't have your wants satisfied, so you still are no happier than you were to begin with. Suppose your parents buy a $100 million house today. You'll be no happier in 1 year than you were yesterday since you'll want that house to be YOURS and not your parents. The house did nothing but shift your wants.
Even if you did buy everything you ever wanted, you'll still have friends and family die, you'll still have aches and pains, etc. You'll still have to go through girlfriend/wife problems and arguments. Etc. Money never solves any of the true problems in life once your basic necessities are purchased.
Thus, most people in first world countries are in category A, where more money doesn't bring true lifelong happiness.
B) Lack of money brings unhappiness. That is a proven fact.
You appear to be confusing A with B.
When you don't have enough money to get the necessities in life, then you are unhappy. When you get the necessities, you become more happy. Thus, initially, money brings happiness. But that trend ends quite soon. Once you have the necessities taken care of, then MORE money doesn't bring more happiness. You cross into category A.
The easiest examples are in the extremes. If you give a starving person money for food and shelter, he will be happy. His lack of money was removed, thus his happiness increased. But, if you give Bill Gates a million dollars, he won't be any more happy than before. Your money brought him no happiness at all.
The cutoff will vary from person to person, but often it is lower than most people think. Once your basic necessities are taken care of (food, shelter, etc), then you likely are in category A. If I gave you $5000 for a trip, you will be temporarilly happy. But once the trip is over, you'll be no more happy afterwards than before. Same goes with a bigger house, a nicer car, more electronics. Generally it is just a temporary feeling that doesn't last. The money ultimately didn't make you happier. Why? Because you just want something bigger and better than what you just got. The money didn't truely end your wants, it just changed the wants.
For example, suppose you wanted a 40" plamsa TV. Fine, but if give you money for it, you'll be no happier in 1 year then you are now. Why? Because in 1 year, you'll want a whole in-home theater and not just a measly 40" plasma TV. You still don't have your wants satisfied, so you still are no happier than you were to begin with. Suppose your parents buy a $100 million house today. You'll be no happier in 1 year than you were yesterday since you'll want that house to be YOURS and not your parents. The house did nothing but shift your wants.
Even if you did buy everything you ever wanted, you'll still have friends and family die, you'll still have aches and pains, etc. You'll still have to go through girlfriend/wife problems and arguments. Etc. Money never solves any of the true problems in life once your basic necessities are purchased.
Thus, most people in first world countries are in category A, where more money doesn't bring true lifelong happiness.
BeauJangles
Lifer
- Aug 26, 2001
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Money just doesn't magically make problems go away. Most people who are handed great sums of money almost immediately give it back and wind up right where they started. With lots of money comes lots of new problems, stresses and worries. You can't see them because you can only see how your current problems would be solved by money, but they're there.
I think the phrase "money doesn't buy happiness" comes almost solely from the fact that money can't help you lead a fulfilling life. Sure, riding around in your own 747 is fun. What if you spent your whole life doing that? Most people derive their greatest satisfaction from giving something back to the world or building something or contributing to something. In fact, there are several studies that show people are happiest when they're at work. Even if they claim to hate it, work gives people direction, goals, and motivation.
Anyway, money doesn't solve the biggest questions that are the keys to happiness -- finding your true calling in your life and finding a love.
I think the phrase "money doesn't buy happiness" comes almost solely from the fact that money can't help you lead a fulfilling life. Sure, riding around in your own 747 is fun. What if you spent your whole life doing that? Most people derive their greatest satisfaction from giving something back to the world or building something or contributing to something. In fact, there are several studies that show people are happiest when they're at work. Even if they claim to hate it, work gives people direction, goals, and motivation.
Anyway, money doesn't solve the biggest questions that are the keys to happiness -- finding your true calling in your life and finding a love.
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I'm not saying there isn't a job that is too far away and that I need a car for it. I just have no motivation to get a job.
I disagree. I've always wanted the best; I just make sacrifices for what I can get. I have always wanted the in-home theater, but I couldn't afford it. The 40" Plasma is just mid-term happiness while I get the next.
People are not always going to be happy if they are with people, it's the same with them too... If I had friends, and kept them for a year I wouldn't be any happier with them then than before.. I know this for fact. I had a friend for more than a year, and I was no more happy with them than before. So, what are we proving?
Nothing keeps us happier longer than a year unless it is a certificate of deposit.
gorcorps
aka Brandon
- Jul 18, 2004
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I will say that money and things can induce SHORT TERM happiness up to a point. But at some point you have so many things and money that it doesn't matter how much you have. You still need friends and a 'significant other' to round out the package.
dullard
Elite Member
- May 21, 2001
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Come back in 40 years when all your loved ones are dead or dying and you are on life-support. Tell me then how much happiness that number in your certificate of deposit is making you happy. You'll change you tune as soon as you really live life and realize that money never really solved any true problem. Money won't tell your dead loved one the words you wish you had told. Money won't remove the brain cancer from your best friend. Money won't bring back your girlfriend/spouse after you make a mistake.Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
People are not always going to be happy if they are with people, it's the same with them too... If I had friends, and kept them for a year I wouldn't be any happier with them then than before.. I know this for fact. I had a friend for more than a year, and I was no more happy with them than before. So, what are we proving?
Nothing keeps us happier longer than a year unless it is a certificate of deposit.
I'll ask you one question. If money really brought happiness, then how come studies of happiness always show that the wealthiest people are less happy than the middle class?
SketchMaster
Diamond Member
- Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
I'm not saying there isn't a job that is too far away and that I need a car for it. I just have no motivation to get a job.
...
I disagree. I've always wanted the best; I just make sacrifices for what I can get. I have always wanted the in-home theater, but I couldn't afford it. The 40" Plasma is just mid-term happiness while I get the next.
People are not always going to be happy if they are with people, it's the same with them too... If I had friends, and kept them for a year I wouldn't be any happier with them then than before.. I know this for fact. I had a friend for more than a year, and I was no more happy with them than before. So, what are we proving?
Nothing keeps us happier longer than a year unless it is a certificate of deposit.
...Wow. I give up.
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That's problematic for me. I feel no point in life, or to contributing actually. I am only living right now because fear of death. (Evolution at work?) I wonder, if it is possible to be mentally(mentally is actually physically too) wired to not kill yourself, and the people who do kill themselves are just not wired that way.
Maybe humans are wired to normally only gain "true" happiness from things such as love, because they were made that way through evolution. People who seek happiness through wealth such as me die out because they don't reproduce.
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