Materazzi admits he insulted Zidane

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SSP

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Originally posted by: manly
Some casual fans in the WC final thread have exaggerated Zidane's classiness by confusing that with his crisp, artistic play. Sportsmanship and his magical skills are two different things. At the moment the incident happened, I was actually kind of pleased by his reaction. I knew Materazzi had spewed some form of cheap shot, and although Zidane should have maintained his composure, he reacted in the heat of the moment. Materazzi curled into a fetal position like a big baby.

The best quote came from Zizou's teammate Thierry Henry:
You can take the man out of the rough neighborhood, but you can't take the rough neighborhood out of the man.

Personally, I don't think this really tarnishes Zidane's legacy. However, it does diminish his stature from where it would have been if France had won the championship, amongst the top all-time greats such as Pele.

I originally thought people were going to throw him in to the fire (public opinion wise), but a lot of the soccer fans (non Italians) I?ve spoken to actually approve and like the head butt. Even the media didn't react to it the way I though they would (you know, idiots who never watch the sport like Regis commenting on the head butt). I think this will blow over and people will still remember Zidane as the amazing player that he is/was.
 

zainali

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Originally posted by: manly
Some casual fans in the WC final thread have exaggerated Zidane's classiness by confusing that with his crisp, artistic play. Sportsmanship and his magical skills are two different things. At the moment the incident happened, I was actually kind of pleased by his reaction. I knew Materazzi had spewed some form of cheap shot, and although Zidane should have maintained his composure, he reacted in the heat of the moment. Materazzi curled into a fetal position like a big baby.

The best quote came from Zizou's teammate Thierry Henry:
You can take the man out of the rough neighborhood, but you can't take the rough neighborhood out of the man.

Personally, I don't think this really tarnishes Zidane's legacy. However, it does diminish his stature from where it would have been if France had won the championship, amongst the top all-time greats such as Pele.


i still think hes going to be considered to be one of the best ever. not as good as pele but probably the best euro player ever and definately in pele's league. he (and a couple other guys) basically took france all the way to the wc final defeating a bunch of teams on the way including brazil.
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: SSP
Originally posted by: manly
Some casual fans in the WC final thread have exaggerated Zidane's classiness by confusing that with his crisp, artistic play. Sportsmanship and his magical skills are two different things. At the moment the incident happened, I was actually kind of pleased by his reaction. I knew Materazzi had spewed some form of cheap shot, and although Zidane should have maintained his composure, he reacted in the heat of the moment. Materazzi curled into a fetal position like a big baby.

The best quote came from Zizou's teammate Thierry Henry:
You can take the man out of the rough neighborhood, but you can't take the rough neighborhood out of the man.

Personally, I don't think this really tarnishes Zidane's legacy. However, it does diminish his stature from where it would have been if France had won the championship, amongst the top all-time greats such as Pele.

I originally thought people were going to throw him in to the fire (public opinion wise), but a lot of the soccer fans (non Italians) I?ve spoken to actually approve and like the head butt. Even the media didn't react to it the way I though they would (you know, idiots who never watch the sport like Regis commenting on the head butt). I think this will blow over and people will still remember Zidane as the amazing player that he is/was.

It doesn't hurt the fact that it was an absolutely thunderous headbut. :D I'm surprised it didn't break the sternum or any ribs. :Q

Somewhere out there, even Chuck Norris smiled in approval.

 

Manuwell

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WTF ?
Come on. Soccer is not a gay sport. People who don't want to get headbuts/tackles or anything else should play bowling or Poker.

IMO the italian player (who is still a jerk) has been smarter than Le Zidane and got the headbut.

For the drama/show, it could have been funny if the Italian player has responded with a kick in the nuts or sth like that. But he obviously was a chicken.

Lesson => Chicken can win !

EDIT: Honestly, who the fvck cares about the image/reputation of a retiring/retired soccer player. He stopped, period. It's over.
 

dopcombo

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Zizou was an amazing player, but I thought this one article I read summed it up pretty well regarding his actions.

"How will the children of France think about violence now, Zidane? You are their hero."
 

JulesMaximus

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No fvcking sh!t really? I figured Zidane was just pissed because of how the Italians were PWNING them...:roll:

Who's the genius who thought up that headline?
 

SP33Demon

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He did what he had to do against one of soccer's biggest losers, and it was entertaining in the least. He already took France to the Cup in 98 and won MVP then, he had nothing more to prove. He won the MVP this Cup and carried his team to the finals.

Also, it's not like this is the first time he's headbutted someone (he did it in 2001), I don't know why it's being blown out of proportion. France was dominating Italy with as well as after Zidane was in the game. The only thing that saved Italy was the clock, France was running circles around them, clearly the superior conditioned team.
 
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sht talking should be an attribute in FIFA, seriously anyone who has played any sport even semi-competitively know anything is fair game. just gotta be a real athlete and perform regardless
 

MBentz

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Originally posted by: Baked
I kept wondering why Zidane didn't headbutt the dumbass in the face.

Because someone on the internet would make a .gif file with a header that says "Boom! Head shot!"
 

Aimster

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From what I read Zidane isn't a practicing Muslim, but he comes from a Muslim family. He married a beautiful supermodel.

His mother however, is very traditional and wears a headscarf.

His mother was brought into it and as a result the headbutt happened.

I doubt he would have cared if he was called a terrorist, but the fact that his mother was brought into it made him angry.
 
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Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: yowolabi
Originally posted by: Nyati13
From BBC:
" BBC Radio Five Live asked for help from a deaf lip reader, Jessica Rees, who read the words phonetically to an Italian translator.

She deciphered the insult as being "you're the son of a terrorist whore" - a translation also carried by many national newspapers in Britain on Tuesday. "

I think Materazzi is lying about the terrorist part, and about the mother part. That's a twofer :p in lying.

Red Card?

Ref never heard it.

too bad the ref didn't see Zidane's hit either
 
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Originally posted by: dopcombo
Zizou was an amazing player, but I thought this one article I read summed it up pretty well regarding his actions.

"How will the children of France think about violence now, Zidane? You are their hero."

I think the children are the least thing that people are worrying about
 
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: Soccer55
Originally posted by: UDT89
Originally posted by: TXHokie
What's the big deal? I find it great that a French guy stand up for himself given all the bad press about how wimpy France is lately.
Italy guy insults French soccer player, French player headbutts him, Italian guy cries - Italy wins World Cup End of story.

Yeah, I vote ZZ as the next action movie star too.

corrected. Bottom line, you dont get paid to do that stuff......especially in the final game, in OT when your team has been on the offensive all OT.

what player replaced ZZ in the PKs?

Since Zidane got red carded, France could not sub a player in for him for the shootout. So technically, no one replaced Zidane for the penalties. However, there was a player that took a penalty that normally would not have been in the first 5 with Zidane in the match, but I couldn't tell you who that would have been. Also, France only took 4 penalties since Italy clinched the win on their 5th attempt, so it could have been whoever was going to take the 5th shot that was Zidane's "replacement".

-Tom

True. To say that ZZ lost France the World Cup is really stretching it. There were only 10 minutes left in the 2nd OT. Most likely than not, the game would have ended in a tie anyways. It was David Trezeguet who missed the PK for France, and most likely he would still have taken a PK even if Zidane did not get sent off.

It's impossible to say. Having your captain thrown off the field, and then realizing what he did is a hell of a blow. I wouldn't doubt that it had something to do with Trez missing the PK.

then thats the fault of Trezguet, not Zidane. Trezguet just missed by inches, which anyone can do. Trezguet should've made the PK just like the other 8 players who did.
 

The Batt?sai

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Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Originally posted by: Queasy
"I did insult him, it's true," Materazzi said in Tuesday's Gazzetta dello Sport. "But I categorically did not call him a terrorist. I'm not cultured and I don't even know what an Islamic terrorist is."

:confused:


WTF? I thought you were doing that "alter quote for funny ATOT-effect"-thing but that is the actual quote from the website!

I'm assuming Materazzi gave this interview in English and his English sucks. Or he gave the interview in Italian and the dude who translated the article messed up. He can't possibly be THAT stupid, can he?

I think Zidane should have kicked him in the balls.

:confused:
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
I think most people agree that he deserved the head-butt, I just wish that Zidane could have saved it for after the game. :(

x2, he really screwed the pooch publicly doing it when he did
If by, "screwed the pooch" you mean, "won the itals the game" then, yeah.