Massive march on D.C in support of gun control.

[michal1980]

I hope Obama continues this anti gun tirade for the next 4 years.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

I searched, and apparently it's against DC police policy to estimate crowd size. (Probably because every time they did, they'd get flamed by one side or the other for over- or under-estimating it.)

But given the descriptions, and the fact that all the reports say "thousands" as opposed to "tens of thousands", it's probable that the number was in the four figures.

Hardly "countless". And it's extremely intellectually dishonest to quote a news source, edit it, and not disclose up front what you changed.

 

[PottedMeat]

I changed it because I felt thousands was an under estimate.

lol nice. you've successfully made the discussion about you :awe: this is called shooting yourself in the face.

 

[glenn1]

Just amazing, so many turned out in support of proper gun control, turned out in support of ending needless gun violence. So much bigger than the gun crazed protesters the other week. Law makers need to see, the people support greater restrictions on gun ownership and possession.

So what? Hundreds of thousands pro-lifers marched earlier this week and I don't see you waving this around as a supporting reason to overturn Roe v. Wade. Street mobs don't determine what's constitutional in this country.

 

[frowertr]

I don't know why you guys feed the dipshit trolls who admit to changing articles to fit their needs/opinions.

Once they do that they are no longer worth me wasting my time to even reply to their "articles".

 

[NoStateofMind]

Every Anti-gun nut should read this

“The necessary consequence of man's right to life is his right to self-defense. In a civilized society, force may be used only in retaliation and only against those who initiate its use. All the reasons which make the initiation of physical force an evil, make the retaliatory use of physical force a moral imperative.

If some "pacifist" society renounced the retaliatory use of force, it would be left helplessly at the mercy of the first thug who decided to be immoral. Such a society would achieve the opposite of its intention: instead of abolishing evil, it would encourage and reward it.”
― Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Every Anti-gun nut should read this

I'm sure that revelation will really change their minds. I mean, nobody on the left has ever heard of Ayn Rand before.

PS Bonus points for quoting Rand while praising Jesus in your sig.

 

[NoStateofMind]

I'm sure that revelation will really change their minds. I mean, nobody on the left has ever heard of Ayn Rand before.

PS Bonus points for quoting Rand while praising Jesus in your sig.

What leftists need to do is THINK. Which the above quote is supposed to foster. Hope against hope? lol

Doesn't praise Jesus, just answers why he came.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

What leftists need to do is THINK.

I'm sure they feel the same way about you. In fact, I know they do.

Doesn't praise Jesus, just answers why he came.

Apparently you're a cafeteria Objectivist, or a cafeteria Christian, or just rather confused. It would be hard to pick two well-known philosophies more at odds than Christianity and Objectivism.

 

[NoStateofMind]

I'm sure they feel the same way about you. In fact, I know they do.

Leftists haven't proven that they think at all. They react. kneejerk even, especially when it comes to self defense.

Apparently you're a cafeteria Objectivist, or a cafeteria Christian, or just rather confused. It would be hard to pick two well-known philosophies more at odds than Christianity and Objectivism.

Is that right? Well I'm glad you noticed.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Just amazing, so many turned out in support of proper gun control, turned out in support of ending needless gun violence. So much bigger than the gun crazed protesters the other week. Law makers need to see, the people support greater restrictions on gun ownership and possession.

Good on them. If they want it, let them come to our doors to try and take what they want. If any survive, they can have them.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Leftists haven't proven that they think at all.
...
Is that right? Well I'm glad you noticed.

Annnnnnnnd another ironymeter heads to the shop.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Annnnnnnnd another ironymeter heads to the shop.

Keep guessing kid. At some point you will be right. Law of averages and everything.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Good on them. If they want it, let them come to our doors to try and take what they want. If any survive, they can have them.

Its all kneejerk crap. Everytime someone gets hurt there has to be another law. Yet the previous laws didn't stop it to begin with so we'll add another law and it will work THIS time. This is what I mean by leftists not thinking.

 

[Geosurface]

Its all kneejerk crap. Everytime someone gets hurt there has to be another law. Yet the previous laws didn't stop it to begin with so we'll add another law and it will work THIS time. This is what I mean my leftists not thinking.

Agreed.

Legislate away my freedoms I'm not currently able to appreciate the importance of, so I can feel safer! Pretty please, mamma government!

 

[Tom]

Isn't it great how so many self-righteous assholes take a great tragedy and turn those involved into martyrs for their own cause?

We should celebrate them. We should have "Sandy Hook Day"...we can all dress up like 5 year olds with bullet holes in them and celebrate how their wonderful sacrifice has now made us all more susceptable to gun violence because we banned law-abiding citizens from having those scary, nasty, evil guns.

Seriously, don't you realize that an object has no morality, no compulsion? The object itself is completely neutral. It is nothing but a tool.

Should we ban hammers because I can use one to bash your face in? Should we ban golf clubs because I could use one to knock your testicles off? Should we ban water because I could hold your head under it and drown you?

I mean, without a hammer, you'd still have a face. Without a golf club, you'd still have testicles. Without water, you'd still be alive. Right? So, by the logic espoused by gun control fanatics, the hammer, the golf club, and the water must be evil. If guns are evil because they can injure, so to must be everything else. Scope and scale are irrelevant. I could get 50lbs of commercial explosive and do much more damage than an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine. Should we ban commercial explosives too? Hell, I could probably accomlish that with a 5lb over the counter propane tank! Maybe we should ban barbecues!

Here's the idiocy of it all: maybe we should just outlaw criminals. I mean, they're the ones who are making all these bad things happen. Why not just outlaw them?

an AWB isn't about an object. That is a very silly argument. It controls people's ability to own certain things.

Other arguments such as it would be inneffective, it takes away rights, those arguments are worth presenting.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Agreed.

Legislate away my freedoms I'm not currently able to appreciate the importance of, so I can feel safer! Pretty please, mamma government!

Yes, but focusing only on the left in this respect is a mistake/deception. The right is the same way, in fact, in many ways, worse.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Yes, but focusing only on the left in this respect is a mistake/deception. The right is the same way, in fact, in many ways, worse.

Who on the right is calling for the ban of Guns?

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Who on the right is calling for the ban of Guns?

My response was not about guns specifically. It was to this general comment: "Legislate away my freedoms I'm not currently able to appreciate the importance of, so I can feel safer! Pretty please, mamma government!"

 

[cwjerome]

Besides the OP deliberately misquoting the article, did anyone else notice Tab's tyrannical desire for the president to abolish a private organization and confiscate everyone's firearms? Not only is it a grotesque attack on basic principles and liberties, but it shows an alarming ignorance of the consequences if that were to happen. Makes me wonder how many anti-gun nutters like him there are out there. Some people are simply happier in chains.

 

[lotus503]

And while he's at it get rid of the 1st,4th and 5th amendment which always get in the way of justice for the criminals, if you are not doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear.:whiste:

Funny you mention the 1st 4th and 5th
As our privacy has been under assault for years, noone seems to give a shit about the those rights only 2a.

 

[Pia]

Most people are utterly clueless when it comes to guns. It's staggering how anybody can believe one needs months of military training to fire an AR when it is something anyone can learn in under five minutes.

That would be just harmless, passing ignorance, easily fixed by informing them. The real problem is willful ignorance and incongruent stupidity.

With the true problem cases, if you ask them a gun-related question, they'll likely give a plain answer: they don't know. (Some feel an inexplicable need to declare at this point that they are proud of their ignorance.) But when a question having to do with legislation comes up, like "should XYZ guns be banned?", these same people instantly transform into shooting/hunting/MOUT/SWAT/jujutsu experts. How the fuck can someone who has acknowledged knowing nothing about the subject stand up in the very next moment, voice an opinion on the suitability of XYZ guns for ZYX purpose, as anything but a joke? How can they expect their "input" to receive a shred of attention or to be treated with respect?

 

[Geosurface]

Yes, but focusing only on the left in this respect is a mistake/deception. The right is the same way, in fact, in many ways, worse.

I have no love for the right or the left, they both suck massively and just pursue different strategies for ruining society.

 

[NoStateofMind]

That would be just harmless, passing ignorance, easily fixed by informing them. The real problem is willful ignorance and incongruent stupidity.

With the true problem cases, if you ask them a gun-related question, they'll likely give a plain answer: they don't know. (Some feel an inexplicable need to declare at this point that they are proud of their ignorance.) But when a question having to do with legislation comes up, like "should XYZ guns be banned?", these same people instantly transform into shooting/hunting/MOUT/SWAT/jujutsu experts. How the fuck can someone who has acknowledged knowing nothing about the subject stand up in the very next moment, voice an opinion on the suitability of XYZ guns for ZYX purpose, as anything but a joke? How can they expect their "input" to receive a shred of attention or to be treated with respect?

:thumbsup:

 

[runzwithsizorz]

Most people are utterly clueless when it comes to guns. It's staggering how anybody can believe one needs months of military training to fire an AR when it is something anyone can learn in under five minutes. Even an iPad is harder to use in comparison.

I am a vet, but speaking purely as a civilian, I have owned, and fired many
weapons. To this day, I still pay for, or get mentoring from range officials.
I also have to learn how to care for, store and transport,(and where:hmm.
It would be safe for me to state that I have hundreds of hours training with various weapons, AND YET, with each new weapon I buy, it still takes me days of firing, and hundreds of rounds to truly be comfortable, and confident with the weapon. No my friend, there is a LOT more to it then just pulling the trigger.
An Ipad does not carry with it the dire consequences of misuse, and the responsibilities to society.