Originally posted by: Corn
What I want to know is why the hell can't I marry 4 or 5 different women?
Originally posted by: Corn
What I want to know is why the hell can't I marry 4 or 5 different women?
Originally posted by: DanJ
Why the hell should the word marriage matter?? Is marriage anywhere near sacred anymore? What is it, 50+% fail? Who knows, maybe they'll do better at it then straight people do.Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
This is a bad judgement, and I think very few on either side of this argument want. The exact same rights under a different title isn't seperate, it's just that - different. Saying it has to be called 'marriage' is just going to feed all the hard-core people on both sides.
Who cares; let gay people marry if they want.
WHY? Will you sit at home in a standard marriage and all of the sudden feel a horrible pain in your chest due to the fact that their is a gay couple who is professing their love for one another? Will their marriage somenhow cheapen yours? Will their happiness somehow hurt yours?Originally posted by: classy
Thats the problem, marriage is not sacred anymore, but it should be. Marriage has since the the beginning of time, has been that of a man and woman. And it should remain as such. This is one thing I am in total agreement with Bush and the republicans, marriage needs to be defined by law.Originally posted by: DanJ
Why the hell should the word marriage matter?? Is marriage anywhere near sacred anymore? What is it, 50+% fail? Who knows, maybe they'll do better at it then straight people do.Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
This is a bad judgement, and I think very few on either side of this argument want. The exact same rights under a different title isn't seperate, it's just that - different. Saying it has to be called 'marriage' is just going to feed all the hard-core people on both sides.
Who cares; let gay people marry if they want.
Not as far as the state is concerned. You can get married in a courthouse by a judge.Marriage is a religious thing.
Originally posted by: DanJ
WHY? Will you sit at home in a standard marriage and all of the sudden feel a horrible pain in your chest due to the fact that their is a gay couple who is professing their love for one another? Will their marriage somenhow cheapen yours? Will their happiness somehow hurt yours?Originally posted by: classy
Thats the problem, marriage is not sacred anymore, but it should be. Marriage has since the the beginning of time, has been that of a man and woman. And it should remain as such. This is one thing I am in total agreement with Bush and the republicans, marriage needs to be defined by law.Originally posted by: DanJ
Why the hell should the word marriage matter?? Is marriage anywhere near sacred anymore? What is it, 50+% fail? Who knows, maybe they'll do better at it then straight people do.Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
This is a bad judgement, and I think very few on either side of this argument want. The exact same rights under a different title isn't seperate, it's just that - different. Saying it has to be called 'marriage' is just going to feed all the hard-core people on both sides.
Who cares; let gay people marry if they want.
No? Then give it up. No one is forcing anyone to marry someone of the same sex. Seperate but equal isn't equal. When did we learn this? Oh right, gay people are the black people of 21st Centruy. I forgot.
Its the same as people that oppose inter-racial marriage. Just hypocrisy. Who cares; its 2 people that love eachother; let them be.
Can someone please explain to me the conservative view on this and why they think gay marriage should be outlawed? I'm trying to be objective here and really can't see any strong points against it besides "preserving the sanctity of marriage"...which obviously has religious implications. Thanks
Well, I expect this from a gay-basher (which it seems you've now made it clear that you are). The comparison of a person marrying a dog and a person marrying another individual that happens to be of the same sex as them is ridiculous. Basically you're saying that gay people aren't human and thus their marriage is like animals marrying eachother. Right?Originally posted by: classy
It does matter. Whats next, people marrying their pets? And I hear this arguement, well its the same as being inter-racial. Not even close. This is not about race or color. Quite frankly is about the continuing collapse of the foundation of healthy society. That foundation is that of a family. Now maybe its not important to you, but it is important to me as well as a lot of other folks. So when people start marrying their Great Danes next and want to have it legalized, dont let me hear you hurl an accusation. Whats not important to you, doesn't it make it bad if its important to someone else. Who cares, if you don't care. I didn't think my caring about a certain situation was dependant on your caring. Genius.Originally posted by: DanJ
WHY? Will you sit at home in a standard marriage and all of the sudden feel a horrible pain in your chest due to the fact that their is a gay couple who is professing their love for one another? Will their marriage somenhow cheapen yours? Will their happiness somehow hurt yours?
No? Then give it up. No one is forcing anyone to marry someone of the same sex. Seperate but equal isn't equal. When did we learn this? Oh right, gay people are the black people of 21st Centruy. I forgot.
Its the same as people that oppose inter-racial marriage. Just hypocrisy. Who cares; its 2 people that love eachother; let them be.
Originally posted by: DanJ
Why the hell should the word marriage matter?? Is marriage anywhere near sacred anymore? What is it, 50+% fail? Who knows, maybe they'll do better at it then straight people do.Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
This is a bad judgement, and I think very few on either side of this argument want. The exact same rights under a different title isn't seperate, it's just that - different. Saying it has to be called 'marriage' is just going to feed all the hard-core people on both sides.
Who cares; let gay people marry if they want.
Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: DanJ
Why the hell should the word marriage matter?? Is marriage anywhere near sacred anymore? What is it, 50+% fail? Who knows, maybe they'll do better at it then straight people do.Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
This is a bad judgement, and I think very few on either side of this argument want. The exact same rights under a different title isn't seperate, it's just that - different. Saying it has to be called 'marriage' is just going to feed all the hard-core people on both sides.
Who cares; let gay people marry if they want.
because the word marriage has a definition. and that definition states man and woman ONLY. yes, to some people, marriage is sacred. Im not exactly the religious type, but I do view marriage as one of the few sacred institutions that we have left.
Its all the liberal thinking that has driven marriage down into the sh|tter and back. This 'live and let live' and 'do what makes ya happy' attitude destroys values and institutions that most Americans hold dear. There used to be a thing called public decency. you would try to be a good person in public and not cause a scene. or embarass yourself or those you were with. Thats gone. There used to be a time when if a woman had an illegimate child, she was shamed and was ashamed because she would be labeled a whore. This is no more. And now, were trying to break down the walls of marriage. When does it stop?
Originally posted by: DanJ
Originally posted by: classy
Well, I expect this from a gay-basher (which it seems you've now made it clear that you are). The comparison of a person marrying a dog and a person marrying another individual that happens to be of the same sex as them is ridiculous. Basically you're saying that gay people aren't human and thus their marriage is like animals marrying eachother. Right?Originally posted by: DanJ
Hmmm, is it any different than you saying two guys together are the same as a man and woman together? I would think there are some very glaring differences. Try anatomy 101 or ask your mommy to tell you about the birds and the bees.
Originally posted by: DanJ
Foundation of a family aye? I assume that means since gay people cannot reproduce with eachother that they can never have a family. God knows their are no children in foster homes that these people could save from a life of loneliness. I'm sure those kids could never ever love two parental figures knowing the conservative right of the country has so much hate for people that are different from them. The love those possible parents could give them would surely pale in comparison to the love of moving from foster home to forster home.
God? If God wanted two men or two women to raise foster kids, he would have made it so they could make their own kids as well. And just because there are bad parents in the world doesn't mean we just start sending kids to whomever will take them. And this idea that gay couples adopt all these poor foster kids is a joke too. Most lesbian couples go the route of insemination and its rare to see a gay male couple with children either, let alone all these foster kids you and others keep harping about.
Originally posted by: DanJ
Chew on this. The foundation of a healthy society is a society in which people get along and respect eachothers differences, allow eachother equal rights and equal protection under the law and allow people's love to be shown publically.
And thanks for the genius comment.
You said nothing really worth chewing on. Society is built on principles and certain foundations. Hopefully out of those principles you can a have society that enjoys the very things you mentioned. Gays have been showing their public affection for years. Doesn't mean that now they should be entitled to the same status as a married couple of a man and a woman. Its amazing how stupid people like you sound. You'll sit here in your ignorance and defend gay marriage for rights and yet this country has old folks who can't get married because of certain financial reasons. I don't see you waving your towel for them. Whats next? Let me guess, you'll defend the drug dealer on the corner, saying he should be entitled to unemployment during the slow periods. LOL
Originally posted by: fitzhue
Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: DanJ
Why the hell should the word marriage matter?? Is marriage anywhere near sacred anymore? What is it, 50+% fail? Who knows, maybe they'll do better at it then straight people do.Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
This is a bad judgement, and I think very few on either side of this argument want. The exact same rights under a different title isn't seperate, it's just that - different. Saying it has to be called 'marriage' is just going to feed all the hard-core people on both sides.
Who cares; let gay people marry if they want.
because the word marriage has a definition. and that definition states man and woman ONLY. yes, to some people, marriage is sacred. Im not exactly the religious type, but I do view marriage as one of the few sacred institutions that we have left.
Its all the liberal thinking that has driven marriage down into the sh|tter and back. This 'live and let live' and 'do what makes ya happy' attitude destroys values and institutions that most Americans hold dear. There used to be a thing called public decency. you would try to be a good person in public and not cause a scene. or embarass yourself or those you were with. Thats gone. There used to be a time when if a woman had an illegimate child, she was shamed and was ashamed because she would be labeled a whore. This is no more. And now, were trying to break down the walls of marriage. When does it stop?
So it is my understanding you would just want to roll back hundreds of years of societal advancement? Times change, people change, get over it.
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: fitzhue
So it is my understanding you would just want to roll back hundreds of years of societal advancement? Times change, people change, get over it.
And that means the definition of marriage should change?
CkG
Ah, fun fun.Originally posted by: Genesys
because the word marriage has a definition. and that definition states man and woman ONLY. yes, to some people, marriage is sacred. Im not exactly the religious type, but I do view marriage as one of the few sacred institutions that we have left.
Its all the liberal thinking that has driven marriage down into the sh|tter and back. This 'live and let live' and 'do what makes ya happy' attitude destroys values and institutions that most Americans hold dear. There used to be a thing called public decency. you would try to be a good person in public and not cause a scene. or embarass yourself or those you were with. Thats gone. There used to be a time when if a woman had an illegimate child, she was shamed and was ashamed because she would be labeled a whore. This is no more. And now, were trying to break down the walls of marriage. When does it stop?
Originally posted by: Genesys
because the word marriage has a definition. and that definition states man and woman ONLY. yes, to some people, marriage is sacred. Im not exactly the religious type, but I do view marriage as one of the few sacred institutions that we have left.
Its all the liberal thinking that has driven marriage down into the sh|tter and back. This 'live and let live' and 'do what makes ya happy' attitude destroys values and institutions that most Americans hold dear. There used to be a thing called public decency. you would try to be a good person in public and not cause a scene. or embarass yourself or those you were with. Thats gone. There used to be a time when if a woman had an illegimate child, she was shamed and was ashamed because she would be labeled a whore. This is no more. And now, were trying to break down the walls of marriage. When does it stop?
That is driven by the religious thinking. As Wag stated you do not neet a religion - the state can marry you.marriage has a definition. and that definition states man and woman ONLY
Haha...ah yes we on the left sound so crazy for not wanting to stomp out the minorities among us. Nice!Originally posted by: classy
You said nothing really worth chewing on. Society is built on principles and certain foundations. Hopefully out of those principles you can a have society that enjoys the very things you mentioned. Gays have been showing their public affection for years. Doesn't mean that now they should be entitled to the same status as a married couple of a man and a woman. Its amazing how stupid people like you sound. You'll sit here in your ignorance and defend gay marriage for rights and yet this country has old folks who can't get married because of certain financial reasons. I don't see you waving your towel for them. Whats next? Let me guess, you'll defend the drug dealer on the corner, saying he should be entitled to unemployment during the slow periods. LOL
Originally posted by: fitzhue
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: fitzhue
So it is my understanding you would just want to roll back hundreds of years of societal advancement? Times change, people change, get over it.
And that means the definition of marriage should change?
CkG
I really don't see why not. If society is going to change (homosexuality is becoming more popular), then why shouldn't peoples ideals change to accept them as equal, and give them equal rights?
Originally posted by: alchemize
If I support gay marriage, will they stop having parades?