Oyeve
Lifer
- Oct 18, 1999
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BlitzPuppet
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I snagged it up for $30, definitely wasn't going to spend $60 on it after having played the trial.
Stuka87
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- Dec 10, 2010
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Years. Special one off sales be a key reseller is not the same as the game dropping in price.
Mem
Lifer
- Apr 23, 2000
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1.07 hotfix patch is out.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/mass-effect-andromeda-107-patch-out-now/1100-6450180/
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/mass-effect-andromeda-107-patch-out-now/1100-6450180/
cmdrdredd
Lifer
- Dec 12, 2001
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Been playing this through since I got it for $30 and I just find there are way too many "tasks" to do. Almost all of them are just fetch quests. "Hey you look like you can help me. I left my research notes at my hut when the outlaws attacked. Can you go get them?" and the outlaws didn't take them and try to sell them or use them? The rewards are really poor too. Money is pretty useless as you can just scan everything and create whatever gear you want. Nobody is a scientist working on a new weapon tech and you get a quest to find some pieces to build the gun. It's just very poorly done overall. I'm a sucker for space stuff but they didn't even do that part well. It takes way too long to watch all the animations for landing, take off, traveling between systems. No way to skip those scenes. Then almost every planet is a barren rock with a 2 line story about "it appears something hit this planet a long time ago and the scourge messed with it's atmosphere. oh well"
Overall I'd say the following
money is worthless and seems like they never thought of ways to do a merchant system
too many fetch quests littering the worlds
not enough explorable worlds and what is there is really barren and lifeless
every andromeda species understands English without encountering anyone from the Milky Way before? Sure at first the Kett and Angara speak some gibberish to you but it doesn't take long before everything is in english with zero explanation for how they translated the languages back and forth.
the Kett aren't menacing at all and they remind me of Collectors too much
the whole reason for heading to Andromeda for the characters you interact with is poorly written "meh, I like adventure" wtf?
you don't get a big reveal about the reasons you are sent to andromeda and who paid for it unless you do a ridiculous fetch quest for memory triggers. What makes this really bad is how a bunch of floating sparkling orbs just sit out in the open on random planets that the MC or his father has never visited and picking it up unlocks memories in an AI that can decipher code that even native andromeda species can't, can break almost every security in a foreign galaxy, translate the language of every unknown species nearly instantly but can't decode the locks put in place on it's own memory. That is just beyond unbelievable for me.
Overall I'd say the following
money is worthless and seems like they never thought of ways to do a merchant system
too many fetch quests littering the worlds
not enough explorable worlds and what is there is really barren and lifeless
every andromeda species understands English without encountering anyone from the Milky Way before? Sure at first the Kett and Angara speak some gibberish to you but it doesn't take long before everything is in english with zero explanation for how they translated the languages back and forth.
the Kett aren't menacing at all and they remind me of Collectors too much
the whole reason for heading to Andromeda for the characters you interact with is poorly written "meh, I like adventure" wtf?
you don't get a big reveal about the reasons you are sent to andromeda and who paid for it unless you do a ridiculous fetch quest for memory triggers. What makes this really bad is how a bunch of floating sparkling orbs just sit out in the open on random planets that the MC or his father has never visited and picking it up unlocks memories in an AI that can decipher code that even native andromeda species can't, can break almost every security in a foreign galaxy, translate the language of every unknown species nearly instantly but can't decode the locks put in place on it's own memory. That is just beyond unbelievable for me.
I finished the game this last week.
Overall, I like the idea of what they were trying to do. The execution was not good, however.
1) As the post right above me says, too many "go fetch this" quests that just felt like a pointless grind. LOTS of long loading screens to sit through as you get sent all over Heleus, all for a 245 XP payoff.
2) It seems like they did at least make the facial animations slightly less bad after the release, I think. It seemed like there was less eye wandering that had made it seem like all of the characters had some sort of social anxiety. The dialogue was still awful, though. Lots of "you can do it!" and "good job!" that you would expect in a child's game.
3) Character interactions/conversations were... weird. Occasionally you'd finish a quest and then turn it in to the person you've already spoken with five times, and the dialogue made it seem like it was the first time you had ever spoken to them. Weird continuity issues.
4) Some of the voice acting was.. oof. Like they just went out into the Bioware cube farm and asked who had a few hours to record some dialogue.
5) Uninspired enemies.
6) Crafting system seemed overly complex. Never even used it, since it seemed like the best items could be found or bought relatively cheaply.
7) The combat system was alright. Glad they didn't repeat the ME 2/3 thing where space bar does every single thing. Getting into/out of cover was still irritating though.
If they release another one, I'll probably still buy it. When it's >50% off. Not paying $50+ again.
Overall, I like the idea of what they were trying to do. The execution was not good, however.
1) As the post right above me says, too many "go fetch this" quests that just felt like a pointless grind. LOTS of long loading screens to sit through as you get sent all over Heleus, all for a 245 XP payoff.
2) It seems like they did at least make the facial animations slightly less bad after the release, I think. It seemed like there was less eye wandering that had made it seem like all of the characters had some sort of social anxiety. The dialogue was still awful, though. Lots of "you can do it!" and "good job!" that you would expect in a child's game.
3) Character interactions/conversations were... weird. Occasionally you'd finish a quest and then turn it in to the person you've already spoken with five times, and the dialogue made it seem like it was the first time you had ever spoken to them. Weird continuity issues.
4) Some of the voice acting was.. oof. Like they just went out into the Bioware cube farm and asked who had a few hours to record some dialogue.
5) Uninspired enemies.
6) Crafting system seemed overly complex. Never even used it, since it seemed like the best items could be found or bought relatively cheaply.
7) The combat system was alright. Glad they didn't repeat the ME 2/3 thing where space bar does every single thing. Getting into/out of cover was still irritating though.
If they release another one, I'll probably still buy it. When it's >50% off. Not paying $50+ again.
Dahak
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- Mar 2, 2000
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This may sound like defending the game to much, and I do agree that this is a missed opportunity.
Now most of this is from what I remember from finishing it about 3-4 weeks ago.
1 - Tasks, yes they are fetch quests, but can largely be ignored. they don't really add much to the story at all I believe.
2 - English issue.. don't forget that the Nexus itself was there for over a year before you show up and also that the fact there as the rebellion happened, and due to that the angara, and the kett, ran into the MW species before you arrived. I think when you first arrive at Aya this was mentioned, in a single throwaway line
3 - Crafting, --- yes it is a slog.
4 - Money -- its generally needed for crafting as you would never come across enough resources, at least from what I found.
5 - Combat, only thing I did not like was the cover system, preferred the old style where you could manually go into it
6 - Kett, pretty much Collector wannabes, but there are hints that there is more to them, and that the Archon is/has gone rogue
There is too much of, I can see where they want to go, but fells like they left too much out for a sequel that now does not look like it will happen.
I usually do not do many runs in a game, but in the OT I could see myself doing another run, but for this one, it would seem like to much work as the idea of the story is good, the execution is a flat
Now most of this is from what I remember from finishing it about 3-4 weeks ago.
1 - Tasks, yes they are fetch quests, but can largely be ignored. they don't really add much to the story at all I believe.
2 - English issue.. don't forget that the Nexus itself was there for over a year before you show up and also that the fact there as the rebellion happened, and due to that the angara, and the kett, ran into the MW species before you arrived. I think when you first arrive at Aya this was mentioned, in a single throwaway line
3 - Crafting, --- yes it is a slog.
4 - Money -- its generally needed for crafting as you would never come across enough resources, at least from what I found.
5 - Combat, only thing I did not like was the cover system, preferred the old style where you could manually go into it
6 - Kett, pretty much Collector wannabes, but there are hints that there is more to them, and that the Archon is/has gone rogue
There is too much of, I can see where they want to go, but fells like they left too much out for a sequel that now does not look like it will happen.
I usually do not do many runs in a game, but in the OT I could see myself doing another run, but for this one, it would seem like to much work as the idea of the story is good, the execution is a flat
cmdrdredd
Lifer
- Dec 12, 2001
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The biggest issue I have with #1 is the addition of things that are pointless. They just don't know how to make an open world game, that's clear. They add a ton of fetch quests to tick the box of "over X hours of game play" when in actuality you have far, far, far fewer hours of actual game play and 20 hours of watching the ship land and take off. I'd much rather have a solid 30 hours of meaningful stuff there with lore than 100 hours and 90% of it being filler with zero meaning. They also give you lots of choices, choices that have no impact on the game whatsoever. Again so they can tick a box.
Sad to say it but bioware is incompetent these days. Especially with some of the clearly unfinished aspects. First on Eos you have specific dialog and a choice when building the outpost and it specifically says it will affect how the rest of the cluster looks at you but on other worlds you don't and the decision doesn't matter. There is also some talk from NPCs that feel like they should lead into a quest line but don't. Feels like many aspects of the game just were unfinished.
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StinkyPinky
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Wow, this game is really boring. I only started it last week but what the hell has happened to Bioware. I'm about ten hours in and about 5 hours of that is badly acted dialogue and the other 5 hours I've been driving around Arizona. Is the next planet any better?
Stuka87
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cmdrdredd
Lifer
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Yep and when you get to Kadarra you will have doors that take 5 seconds to open and you have to go down an elevator and wait through a loading screen when you move between the overworld and the port. Also have a bunch of open pathways gated off because "you are leaving the mission area" just so they can make you take the longer way around a mountain.
JTsyo
Lifer
- Nov 18, 2007
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What?
If your monitor has an issue with it and you have already maxed out the graphics settings, then turn on V-sync.
Oyeve
Lifer
- Oct 18, 1999
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I play on my TV. All settings are maxxed and vsync is on. I just find it too fluid. Its weird as most people want that but I dont. I prefer 30-40 fps. I guess I can force my 480 to a fps cap.
Stuka87
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Make sure your TV is in "game mode" if it has one. If it doesn't, then turn off any artificial screen smoothing it does, as just about all TVs do this. But you are the first person I have ever seen that likes stuttery game play
Stuka87
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Oyeve
Lifer
- Oct 18, 1999
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Yeah. I turned off all the soap opera effects. Still too fast. It's most likely the game as I have tried the latest amd drivers and get no sound. I use an older driver and when I launch the game it bitches about getting new drivers but they suck.Make sure your TV is in "game mode" if it has one. If it doesn't, then turn off any artificial screen smoothing it does, as just about all TVs do this. But you are the first person I have ever seen that likes stuttery game play
JTsyo
Lifer
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cmdrdredd
Lifer
- Dec 12, 2001
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When you move between the initial port area and the bar the door takes 5 seconds and it is the only area of the game that takes that long and is not near instant that isn't this way for story reasons (hacking). The elevator between the slums and the port is a loading screen. You can't tell me you didn't notice the loading screen. Literally, the screen goes black and the rotating rings pop up on the bottom right corner.
Skel
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I've done just about everything except some of the Kadarra missions. I honestly just lost the will to grind through this game anymore. I'm not sure I'll pick it back up as I stopped a month or so ago and haven't thought about it since. Not only do the quest feel pointless, but they're almost all the same thing. Only the skin of the planet really changes. This game is so bad I honestly wish I had gone with my gut and given it a wide pass.
As a person who bought it full price on release (due to love of ME universe setting), I am similarly regretting the purchase and my time, and here is what is on my mind on why
- failure to focus or define what they were actually trying to make. What is MEA - RPG, Action RPG? Shooter? it felt like mashup of single player FPS, online FPS, and LGBT dating simulator. Where is the RPG in this? Where are choices with consequences? Engaging setting that draws you in?
- very bad (boring) writing in dialogs. They either run out of time/money or forgot to hire the writers. May be spend less time making 50 different version of the same rifle and spend more time on writing out the actual story? Ditch the ' I want to be Destiny' MP crap and make an actual PRG to begin with? or split into ME online shooter game and ME actual role playing game as two separate products?
- social agenda shoved down your throat, very forced, almost preachy. where is the fun in this? From destroying their female model face (which royally f5cked up their animations) to recent patch notes, the companies forget that pondering to very small minority at expense of wider audience may make such minority like you but at the end you end up destroying your name/product/brand.. no issues if you want to bring up some controversial topic or theme but don't forget you are making a game that has to be fun to begin with..
I doubt I will buy ME game again and never on release..
- failure to focus or define what they were actually trying to make. What is MEA - RPG, Action RPG? Shooter? it felt like mashup of single player FPS, online FPS, and LGBT dating simulator. Where is the RPG in this? Where are choices with consequences? Engaging setting that draws you in?
- very bad (boring) writing in dialogs. They either run out of time/money or forgot to hire the writers. May be spend less time making 50 different version of the same rifle and spend more time on writing out the actual story? Ditch the ' I want to be Destiny' MP crap and make an actual PRG to begin with? or split into ME online shooter game and ME actual role playing game as two separate products?
- social agenda shoved down your throat, very forced, almost preachy. where is the fun in this? From destroying their female model face (which royally f5cked up their animations) to recent patch notes, the companies forget that pondering to very small minority at expense of wider audience may make such minority like you but at the end you end up destroying your name/product/brand.. no issues if you want to bring up some controversial topic or theme but don't forget you are making a game that has to be fun to begin with..
I doubt I will buy ME game again and never on release..
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To me ME franchise was getting progressively worse like Dragon Age.
The first one had awesome story, it had the whole paragon / Rebel option for replay, and it had multipul story outcomes.
Then things started getting stream lined and went to the whole lets do multiplayer coop where we force people to grind maps and buy RNG Boxes.
The characters in ME:A were not special nor memorable.
By far they also were the ugliest designs i have ever seen.
I also dont think i will buy a ME title on release as well, nor will i probably buy any of the DLC's as the game is just done and over.
The first one had awesome story, it had the whole paragon / Rebel option for replay, and it had multipul story outcomes.
Then things started getting stream lined and went to the whole lets do multiplayer coop where we force people to grind maps and buy RNG Boxes.
The characters in ME:A were not special nor memorable.
By far they also were the ugliest designs i have ever seen.
I also dont think i will buy a ME title on release as well, nor will i probably buy any of the DLC's as the game is just done and over.
Dahak
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Interesting article about the building of ME:A, essentially it was built in 18months apparently
http://kotaku.com/the-story-behind-mass-effect-andromedas-troubled-five-1795886428
http://kotaku.com/the-story-behind-mass-effect-andromedas-troubled-five-1795886428
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