If only Marvel hadn't sold the rights to Sony in perpetuity. Spidey belongs with Marvel. Sony just wants to milk him, screw the fans.
That's begging for a James Franco "sooo good" with "Spider-milk" and Spidey shooting web in his mouth.
I don't think they have rights to the toys of "vintage" star wars characters. It's unfortunately the reason why they're aggressively killing the old cast off and making their own studio made characters center stage. Episode 7 was less a sequel and more a reboot of episode 4 with Disney branding. Star Wars the Experience is all Disney Star Wars content. Which is great if you prefer characters like Kylo over Vader and Ray over Luke. But I don't.
I don't know. Harrison Ford literally would only get involved if they killed off Han Solo (and I think that was known for some time, so it wasn't exactly a surprise when it happened - I think most people expected it would happen in like the 2nd movie, but I think most of them don't realize how much he fucking hates Star Wars fans). Carrie Fisher was the only one that seemed to want to be involved. Hamil openly criticized their direction with the characters and story. Fisher's gone, Hamil I think regrets his decision to be involved. Ford is happy because Disney's doing what he wants (killed him off ASAP, is minimizing the original movies).
They needed to move on. They never should've had the original people in the new movies to begin with. They should've had cameos and easter eggs with stuff from the original movies to celebrate them but focused on all new stuff.
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holy shit--had no idea the deal was that bad, lol. But yeah, Avengers characters were generally "garbage" in those days. X-Men Spider-Man and the related, the Space stuff, all were more interesting and had a larger fan base. ...even Daredevil was cooler than the Avengers.
They were so broke, though. Only chance of survival was to score some quick cash on licensing out their biggest properties. $7 million for Spider-man. ....that's unconscionable.
$25 million for the rest. Spider-man alone is something close to $1 billion IP now, right?
I wouldn't say garbage (were definitely in a down period, especially compared to X-Men).
Yeah Marvel was very close to going under. The thing is, without having done that stuff, Marvel likely doesn't make it back. The X-Men and then Spider-Man movies revived superheroes and made them workable in the modern world. Without that Marvel would probably still be pretty weak, as those paved the way for the comics to hit mainstream appeal and go beyond comics.
Spider-Man is worth more than that. Disney could probably make a billion from just 1-2 Spider-Man movie these days (plus the carry over into other franchises). If I were Sony I'd offer to sell Spider-Man back for $10billion. Sony isn't likely to make that from the franchise anytime soon, but Marvel could in probably a decade. I'm sure Marvel would balk and Disney just want to wait Sony out, but I bet they'd go for more than $5billion.
Marvel was in serious trouble back in the 90's. There was almost no interest in their characters as far as movies, and the comic book biz was hanging on by a thread.
Yeah people don't seem to remember. Comic movies were nowhere close to being the surefire money printers they are today. The Batman movies were on a downward trend and I think basically all other superhero/comic franchises were bombing at the box office. And the comics themselves weren't doing super well.
hmmm, now I'm wondering if Marvel will try to kill all of Spider-man in the comic book universe like they did with FF. ...would be ballsy, of course, but Disney can force them to do it and it's the kind of ruthless thing Disney would do, the greedy rat bastards--now that Stan Lee is gone. Disney would probably enjoy dancing over his bones if it can another ~$billion to their already barely-fathomable revenue.
I don't think they can. Sony likely owns the right to use Spider-Man and a bunch of already established Spider-Man stories. Marvel could kill him off in the comics but that doesn't even matter with regards to the movies. There's a LOT of other Spider-Man stuff they could still work with. Seriously, we haven't even had a good version of Venom yet (honestly, we haven't had great versions of most of the Spidey villains although I doubt they'd top Green Goblin, Doc Oc, and Vulture; I didn't hear good things about Rhino or Shocker and I haven't seen the newest Spidey movie which I think has Mysterio in it? Sand Man was ok but got lost in the mess that was Spider-Man 3), and a Venom and then Carnage saga could add some edge to the franchise. Which, granted Sony would probably screw it up, and Disney seems like they'd rather keep Spidey appealing to younger audiences. But that's some potential bank to be made there. I figure Sony is gonna probably try that route at least before giving up on the franchise.
Never say never, but I highly doubt that'll ever happen. Spider-Man is their crown jewel. At best they'll attempt to downplay him a bit, like they did the X-Men. However, like the X-Men, he's too big a following to get rid of. The FF struggled in sales regardless of the movies. It was easier to back burner the series for a bit (two of the characters never went away, nor did they move on from the group), but even then, people complained until they were brought back. I still think it was just a marketing ploy as the remaining characters were trying to find the rest of the group until the series was published again.
Yeah. Spider-Man is more popular than even X-Men these days. Without RDJ, I bet Iron-Man falls off big time in popularity. That leaves basically Thor and maybe Black Panther in the top tier of characters for now. Thor will be part of Guardians (and GotG is likely their best franchise by far now).
Spider-Man is worth a lot more to Marvel than to Sony I think. And that's why if I were Sony I'd try and just sell it back for some crazy amount just to see what Marvel says. People might would compare what Marvel makes and say Sony was stupid, but I doubt Sony would be able to make the same amount from it, so its a situation where both could benefit. Sony gets a bigger sum than they'd probably make from it for decades, and Marvel gets to properly re-integrate Spider-Man which will be very lucrative.
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