Martial Arts question...

DangerAardvark

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If I want to start studying a martial art do I get to fight the teacher first? I mean it would make sense. For one, it would prove his qualifications. Secondly, if you beat him then he has nothing to teach you, so it would serve as a measuring stick of your skill.

Also, is it rude to go to dojos and call out the instructor?
 
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if you have no training at all, the instructor is going to fvck you up...and besides with an attitude like that a lot of masters wouldn't take you anyway
 

DangerAardvark

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What attitude, a logical one? Yeah, god forbid anyone actually ever test his skill. It should be mandatory to fight the instructor on the first day.
 

Sheepathon

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and then if he fvcked you up you'd be too injured to continue training, that's a bust for both sides
 

DangerAardvark

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Oh c'mon, an instructor who can't take down an unskilled combatant without fvcking him up? Don't think I'd wanna train under him anyway.
 
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Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
What attitude, a logical one? Yeah, god forbid anyone actually ever test his skill. It should be mandatory to fight the instructor on the first day.

when's the last time you quizzed your doctor on the functions of your lower intestinal tract...just to be sure he's competent enough to give you medical attention?

 

Deadtrees

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You shouldn't learn any kind of martial arts at all. Your attitude can be a disaster when combined with martial arts.
Please improve your brain first before doing anything.
 

Koing

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It is a somewhat reasonable one imo.

BUT most instructors are not going to like that attitude either way you cut it!

Ask him to spar. IF you don't know how to fight or know any martials arts then don't spar with the instructor. He will most often then not unless he has no ability at all will kick 10 shades of crap out of you. If you have been in fights/ spar you will have a good go.

My last instructor would kick the living sh!t out of most people. Small but very very fast and deadly. European JJ Champ 2002 or one year!

Koing
 

DangerAardvark

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Oh yeah, because martial arts is about happiness and friendship. MARTIAL arts, as in pertaining to war. Please explain this "attitude" you speak of. And besides, wouldn't fighting your instructor be beneficial? When you can beat him, he has nothing more to teach you.
 

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Dude, I would love to see someone actually try it. I've actually pondered this myself since I beat my former teacher's best student my first day. I always wondered why he only fought the little kids.

*edit* If you do actually do this, please let us know the results. Even if you lose.
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: Koing
It is a somewhat reasonable one imo.

BUT most instructors are not going to like that attitude either way you cut it!

Ask him to spar. IF you don't know how to fight or know any martials arts then don't spar with the instructor. He will most often then not unless he has no ability at all will kick 10 shades of crap out of you. If you have been in fights/ spar you will have a good go.

My last instructor would kick the living sh!t out of most people. Small but very very fast and deadly. European JJ Champ 2002 or one year!

Koing


Oh, I get it, I'm supposed to be humble because I'm clearly not worthy to fight the instructor. I mean look at his pretty belt. What good is a skill if you don't test it. It's vital to progression.
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: InterpolAgent
Dude, I would love to see someone actually try it. I've actually pondered this myself since I beat my former teacher's best student my first day. I always wondered why he only fought the little kids.


Yeah, I know what you mean. I used to take fencing classes. And, it was so weird because in the first few weeks I would be able to beat some people who had been there for years. Then, after I'd been there for a few months, some new guy would come in and wipe the floor with me. The whole sport just seemed so random. Also, it didn't help that some Canadian came in one day and spanked my teacher 2 in a row.
 

Koing

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Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Koing
It is a somewhat reasonable one imo.

BUT most instructors are not going to like that attitude either way you cut it!

Ask him to spar. IF you don't know how to fight or know any martials arts then don't spar with the instructor. He will most often then not unless he has no ability at all will kick 10 shades of crap out of you. If you have been in fights/ spar you will have a good go.

My last instructor would kick the living sh!t out of most people. Small but very very fast and deadly. European JJ Champ 2002 or one year!

Koing


Oh, I get it, I'm supposed to be humble because I'm clearly not worthy to fight the instructor. I mean look at his pretty belt. What good is a skill if you don't test it. It's vital to progression.

I know what your saying.

I'm just saying GO TRY IT AND POST A VIDEO. Yes it will be rude but you will definately see if he is any good. I'd love to see it.

He could be a good fighter and a crappy teacher or a great teacher but a bit of a crappy fighter...

Koing
 

Koing

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What martial art do you do? Or are you free/ mma style?

Less rules the better but you got to keep it safe when sparring and don't want to eye gouge, fish hooking, low blows, breaking joints etc.

I went to a mma club and sparred with some guys and tapped out some guys 1st day :). But I pretty much knew I was going to as I have some training under me invarious forms.

Koing
 

loic2003

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Martial --->>>ARTS<<<--- are as much about form as 'kicking ass', if not more so. Check out the competitions; the judges don't award 'kick arse' points ;) It's about training the mind as much as the body.

I see where you're coming from: you can't learn from someone who isn't as good as you, but since you've not been to a single lesson you'll have no clue about the form of the art. True you might be able to hit the instructor with a couple of cheap shots, but throwing a barstool at the back of an unsuspecting blackbelt in the bar doesn't make you better than a black-belt, does it?

Print out your comments from this thread, show them to you instructor and have a quick spar with him. Then come back and tell us how it went... if you still have fingers.
 

rh71

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"study" martial arts... it's not only about kicking @$$. You have much to learn. That'd serve you better on the first day. That's as nice as I can put it and that's something you'll need to learn to accept if you want to get into it.
 

meltdown75

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if you need your ass kicked that bad, i'll do it free of charge. :p

just walk into a biker bar and scream, "HARLEYS ARE FOR F/\GS!"
 

Mo0o

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Seems like if you're going in as a newbie, it would be a pointless waste of time to "tryout" the master considering the result is guaranteed. What do you have to test, obviously you're not gonna win. However, if you are a seasoned martial arts expert and is seeking someone with more experience, a quick sparring session might make sense.

When you go to school do you hand out a test to all your teachers?
 

PingSpike

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Related to this...what is a good martial art style thats actually useful in a fight? A lot of them look pretty cool, but seem impractical.

I think once I get moved into my new place I'm going to get one of those cheap 75pound bags from Dick's sporting goods. Seems like decent exercise.
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Related to this...what is a good martial art style thats actually useful in a fight? A lot of them look pretty cool, but seem impractical.

I think once I get moved into my new place I'm going to get one of those cheap 75pound bags from Dick's sporting goods. Seems like decent exercise.

From what I heard Jujitsu is pretty good. A lot of guys in UFC have Jujitsu training. But in a real fight, a quick kick to the nuts or a gun to the face will defeat any kind of martial arts training.
 

Doggiedog

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I think the dojo you should go to is the one down the block where they also serve beer and have stools as chairs.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Consider this, noone out there tries to challenge a baseball coach to a skill of baseball to determine if he's a good coach.
 

Make sure you have your mom drop you off out of her minivan around the corner so he doesn't see you coming.
 

torpid

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I think what you are looking for is military school and not a martial arts class. An instructor does not even have to be good at martial arts to teach you, although they will almost always be quite good. Do yout hink lebron james challenged paul silas before accepting him as a coach?

Secondly, not only do you not seem to understand martial arts, you seem to think it is some sort of klingon empire where people fight over who gets to eat the slimy worm delicacy. Apparently you haven't even seen The Karate Kid. Otherwise you would understand what people are saying about your attitude. Martial Arts are used to make you a better athlete, a more confident person, a more peaceful person, and to a lesser degree than the rest of those how to defend yourself.