Marriage Equality Warriors: "Not without Polygamy"

[umbrella39]

How unusual. A religious person posting stupid shit.

Just amazing that after scraping his knuckles on the ground all day he can still muster the strength to post retarded on the Internet...

 

[werepossum]

Considering that Polygamy is the true traditional marriage, I don't know why Christians aren't fighting tooth and nail for it.

Most men gave up wanting multiple wives once they achieved one wife and extended cable. A man with more than one wife will never know the score on even one game.

 

[zinfamous]

polygamists have a long history of cultish sex slavery and horrific mental and physical abuse that is very much a part of their story to work out before this type of lifestyle gains any traction. And the very real and very unique legal issues regarding ownership and heredity and wills and whatever--many issues that make them no more comparable to gay marriages than to straight marriages.

so yeah, other than the stuff that is nothing like gay marriage, it is almost the exact same thing.


also, this thread is super gay.

 

[bradley]

The fight should have been for civil unions to be given equal rights and benefits as marriage. In this way, religious freedom would never get trampled. The Supreme Court's ruling has opened the door for consenting polygamists. What an inevitable clusterfuck.

 

[dawp]

I have no problem as long as it goes both ways.

man with multiple wives or woman with multiple husbands or even group marriages with multiples of both sexes or even with multples of the same sex.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Well, why shouldn't they be allowed to get married?

Nobody is saying they can't get married. What I'm saying is that there isn't any inherent discrimination of a protected class in limiting the number of spouses to 1 for everybody. The ruling in Obergefell v Hodges does not come to bear on the issue.

Remember, the gov't have to give a compelling reason as to why people shouldn't have multiple spouses.

There probably isn't a compelling reason for the government to limit the number of spouses, although it wouldn't take much to muster up some kind of tax code issue that would effectively differentiate "religious marriage" and "legal marriage."

The first thing I said in this thread was "I don't really have any ideological opposition to polygamy." You must've missed where I said that, since you promptly called me an "intolerant bigot."

"Intolerant" of what, pray tell?

And I heard someone say "women get abused and are treated like property"

What in the fuck you does that have to to with me?

 

[mikeymikec]

Well, why shouldn't they be allowed to get married? Remember, the gov't have to give a compelling reason as to why people shouldn't have multiple spouses.

And I heard someone say "women get abused and are treated like property"

In what marriage set-up hasn't that happened in?

What is causing people to act like TH in his absence?

Heh. This scene sprang to mind after reading the OP.

 

[stlc8tr]

Except most people in this thread have said that they really don't have a problem with it. Were you talking about some other thread or forum?

Yeah, like most folks in this thread, I'm for polygamy in principle. It's just the details that need to be ironed out.

Why isn't this a poll?

 

[sandorski]

Although - in principle - I'm all for polygamy, there are highly significant problems.

Tax treatment: How should tax brackets be defined for polygamous marriages? What exclusions for AMT and estate taxes should apply? What income thresholds for various tax rules should apply? What "standard" deduction applies? What are the inheritance rules? What is the federal poverty level for polygamous families. What is the "state of residency" and what rules apply if the marital partners live in 25 different states? And a host of other questions made exceedingly complex when marriages can consist of 2, 3, or 10,000 individuals. Anyone who claims such problems are easily solvable is being either dishonest or in denial.

Obamacare: How would the rules for Obamacare be affected by polygamous marriages?. Again, there are HUGE problems.

Company perquisites: How do companies handle perks when an employee may have 100 spouses and 200 children?

What are the divorce laws for polygamous marriges? What is "community property?" Who gets custody of children?

What about bankruptcy laws? Credit ratings? Joint bank accounts? Who gets to decide when medical treatment should be withheld?

Can a person be a spouse in more than one polygamous marriage? What about immigration laws? What about incest laws?

Plus, think of the AMPLE opportunities for fraud in polygamous marriages.

I could probably come up with many, many more complications caused by polygamy. Complications which are completely absent with two-person marriages. And ALL of these complications would need to have clear-cut solutions before polygamy could be implemented.

Yup. Other issues:

1) Boys get ostracized from the community, because they are competition for Wives
2) Arranged Marriages become common in order to secure Wives
3) related to 2: Females become Property and lose their autonomy. They are raised simply to be a Man's Wife


The social costs involved are reason enough not to recognize them Legally.

 

[pcgeek11]

Most men gave up wanting multiple wives once they achieved one wife and extended cable. A man with more than one wife will never know the score on even one game.

Imagine the Honey Do list that multiple wives could generate. I can't keep up with my one wife's list.

You younger guys wanting more than one wife will understand one day.

There is a huge difference between wanting to and having to.

 

[Paratus]

Guys isn't it obvious that this whole thread is just a cry for help from the OP?

 

[brycejones]

Guys isn't it obvious that this whole thread is just a cry for help from the OP?

The same OP who says he has no issue with same sex marriage and then goes on to start threads about it and make inane arguments?

 

[Paratus]

The same OP who says he has no issue with same sex marriage and then goes on to start threads about it and make inane arguments?

He just wants someone to say, "OMG rob you were right! You warned us and we didn't listen. Now a guy has asked for legalized polygamy and our own marriages are worthless now. WHY DIDN'T WE LISTEN! "

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Oh lordy, here we go with the polygamy argument yet again.

One person, one spouse..............end of story!!!

 

[brycejones]

OMG rob you were right! You warned us and we didn't listen. Now a guy has asked for legalized polygamy and our own marriages are worthless now. WHY DIDN'T WE LISTEN!

OP can you close this thread now?

 

[JD50]

The same OP who says he has no issue with same sex marriage and then goes on to start threads about it and make inane arguments?

That's his MO. He tries to come off as a moderate but quickly spirals into fundy territory.

 

[BoberFett]

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/polygamous-montana-trio-applies-wedding-license-193205283.html



Let the dominos being to fall - time for incest next!

Ummmm, good? Why should marrying more than one person or even a relative be illegal? I thought this was a free country.

 

[BoberFett]

LOL, look at the Democrat bigots coming out of the woodwork and assuming polyamory is limited to some patriarch raping all the young girls in the village.

No, it could never be a woman with more than one husand, or multiple men and multiple women.

You all sound like the religious right, believing that gay men just want to molest little boys.

 

[BoberFett]

Yup. Other issues:

1) Boys get ostracized from the community, because they are competition for Wives
2) Arranged Marriages become common in order to secure Wives
3) related to 2: Females become Property and lose their autonomy. They are raised simply to be a Man's Wife


The social costs involved are reason enough not to recognize them Legally.

/facepalm

Is your brain still thawing out, Canuckistanian?

Go watch the Penn & Teller Bullshit episode about non-traditional relationships.

 

[sandorski]

/facepalm

Is your brain still thawing out, Canuckistanian?

Go watch the Penn & Teller Bullshit episode about non-traditional relationships.

Why? Is it because I am using points that are occurring right now within the borders of the US?

 

[realibrad]

LOL, look at the Democrat bigots coming out of the woodwork and assuming polyamory is limited to some patriarch raping all the young girls in the village.

No, it could never be a woman with more than one husand, or multiple men and multiple women.

You all sound like the religious right, believing that gay men just want to molest little boys.

Do on to others and all that jazz

Gays getting married does not change the sanctity of marriage because how others practice marriage does not effect others. But polygamy, well that is illegal for good reason, because its not about love, its about cults.

Also, anyone who brings up abuses under polygamy, can you tell me if there are any secular or atheist polygamists that have abused children? From my memory, its always been with religious polygamists.

 

[Retro Rob]

Ummmm, good? Why should marrying more than one person or even a relative be illegal? I thought this was a free country.

Love and consent, really, is all that's required, added to the fact they have ZERO IMACT on anyone's marriage.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Good for them. I fully support polygamists right to marry who they choose. Just get a lawyer to draft up some language to cover the areas where we might see a difference with two-person marriage (division of assets, next of kin, tax benefits, that sort of thing) and I'll vote for your right to marry however many people you want.

 

[Retro Rob]

Good for them. I fully support polygamists right to marry who they choose. Just get a lawyer to draft up some language to cover the areas where we might see a difference with two-person marriage (division of assets, next of kin, tax benefits, that sort of thing) and I'll vote for your right to marry however many people you want.

They're working on it.

 

[realibrad]

Good for them. I fully support polygamists right to marry who they choose. Just get a lawyer to draft up some language to cover the areas where we might see a difference with two-person marriage (division of assets, next of kin, tax benefits, that sort of thing) and I'll vote for your right to marry however many people you want.

Ditto.