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PlatinumGold

Lifer
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Originally posted by: conjur
If there's talent there it's hidden by their "style" then. And, btw, I don't like morons. Unless you're calling Etta James, Ella Fitzgerald, and the others I mentioned, morons.
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hehehe, you have a problem reading?

i never said that singers you liked were morons, i actually like dolly parton myself.

I said that people that think style = talent were morons.
 

Ausm

Lifer
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I am taking an unbiased approach....I don't give a $hit about her style or Singing ability...I just want to nail her!!


;)

Ausm
 

conjur

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold


your problem is, you like a lot of morons, confuse style with talent.

just because you don't like her STYLE, only a moron would deny the talent.
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No, you have a problem writing. You just wrote there that I like a lot of morons. Untrue.
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold


your problem is, you like a lot of morons, confuse style with talent.

just because you don't like her STYLE, only a moron would deny the talent.
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No, you have a problem writing. You just wrote there that I like a lot of morons. Untrue.

ok, so i mistyped that.

you, like a lot of morons.

but most people would have seen that without the comma.
 

conjur

No Lifer
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And, if you equate talent with technical skills, sure, they have talent. Mariah is reported to have a wide-ranging vocal ability. However, what she does with that ability is horrid.

And, to stoop to your level, only a moron would find that "Style" appealing. It's complete tripe.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i wonder how much surgery shes had... looks like a facelift...

Why do you say that?!?! She's only 33 years old :confused: I think that she has aged perfectly.

her face looks pulled
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
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Originally posted by: conjur
And, if you equate talent with technical skills, sure, they have talent. Mariah is reported to have a wide-ranging vocal ability. However, what she does with that ability is horrid.

where did i make that confusion?? only in your mind. i never said ANYTHING about their skill level.

I said they were talented.

btw, the statement "what she does with that ability is horrid" is PURE OPINION.

The talent level is FACT. both of them can do things with their voice that FEW people can do, that is TALENT.
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
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Originally posted by: conjur
And, if you equate talent with technical skills, sure, they have talent. Mariah is reported to have a wide-ranging vocal ability. However, what she does with that ability is horrid.

And, to stoop to your level, only a moron would find that "Style" appealing. It's complete tripe.

nope, you didn't stoop low enough, i never claimed ANYWHERE that their styles were appealing.
 

conjur

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Right...they can reach notes very few people can. Very few.

BUT, the songs they sing, the "style" they use and the fact they use their bodies to sell albums that are nothing but crap (Loverboy, anyone?) makes them nothing but attention whores in my book. Hell, look at Whitney. Her career was going down so what does she do? Get a boob job.
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By stooping to your level I meant the name calling and you know that.

:p
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
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Originally posted by: conjur
Right...they can reach notes very few people can. Very few.

BUT, the songs they sing, the "style" they use and the fact they use their bodies to sell albums that are nothing but crap (Loverboy, anyone?) makes them nothing but attention whores in my book. Hell, look at Whitney. Her career was going down so what does she do? Get a boob job.
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whitney is in some serious trouble right now due to her drug addiction. i feel nothing but contempt for her because she threw away everything. she was born to a great family, she had looks, talent galore and she threw that all away due to an addiction to drugs.

HOWEVER, i will never deny she had the talent, my contempt for her is as great as the level of talent she had.

I unlike you can recognize talent even in people i despise.
 

nativesunshine

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

why is it that we don't see threads like this regarding male entertainers? other than the universally despised Michael Jackson i mean.

where are the threads claiming that Bon Jovi is a slut etc.
Hey...I'll bash them, too. But, this board is full of young males. Do you really think you're going to see threads on cover shots of Bon Jovi?

I can do that if you want me to. lol..he has a beautiful smile.

Why's Bon Jovi's a slut? isn't he married and all that? Know who's a slut? Colin Farrell. yea..talk about slut...he'd sleep w/ anyone..he even said so himself. Yet..I'd still hit it. lol.

this thread is funny.
 

conjur

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: conjur
Right...they can reach notes very few people can. Very few.

BUT, the songs they sing, the "style" they use and the fact they use their bodies to sell albums that are nothing but crap (Loverboy, anyone?) makes them nothing but attention whores in my book. Hell, look at Whitney. Her career was going down so what does she do? Get a boob job.
rolleye.gif

whitney is in some serious trouble right now due to her drug addiction. i feel nothing but contempt for her because she threw away everything. she was born to a great family, she had looks, talent galore and she threw that all away due to an addiction to drugs.

HOWEVER, i will never deny she had the talent, my contempt for her is as great as the level of talent she had.

I unlike you can recognize talent even in people i despise.

Sorry...but if she'd sung "I Will Always Love You" on The Gong Show and done that screeching, J.P. Morgan would have hit the bong so hard it would have broken in half! :D

Technical skills != talent
 

Huz

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She's a fat skanky washed up nobody, and her music sucks.

I'd still hit it.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: conjur
Right...they can reach notes very few people can. Very few. BUT, the songs they sing, the "style" they use and the fact they use their bodies to sell albums that are nothing but crap (Loverboy, anyone?) makes them nothing but attention whores in my book. Hell, look at Whitney. Her career was going down so what does she do? Get a boob job.
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Yet another opinion, not fact (on the boob job).

Oh, really?

Then came the body shots. Williams asked, "Do you deny you've had breast implants?" No, Whitney said
 

Ryan

Lifer
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: conjur Right...they can reach notes very few people can. Very few. BUT, the songs they sing, the "style" they use and the fact they use their bodies to sell albums that are nothing but crap (Loverboy, anyone?) makes them nothing but attention whores in my book. Hell, look at Whitney. Her career was going down so what does she do? Get a boob job.
rolleye.gif
Yet another opinion, not fact (on the boob job).
Oh, really? Then came the body shots. Williams asked, "Do you deny you've had breast implants?" No, Whitney said

:Q Ok, I retract my statement :p
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: conjur Right...they can reach notes very few people can. Very few. BUT, the songs they sing, the "style" they use and the fact they use their bodies to sell albums that are nothing but crap (Loverboy, anyone?) makes them nothing but attention whores in my book. Hell, look at Whitney. Her career was going down so what does she do? Get a boob job.
rolleye.gif
Yet another opinion, not fact (on the boob job).
Oh, really? Then came the body shots. Williams asked, "Do you deny you've had breast implants?" No, Whitney said

:Q Ok, I retract my statement :p

:D

Hey...when did you make Lifer?

Congrats? Or should it be condolences?

:D
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: conjur
Right...they can reach notes very few people can. Very few.

BUT, the songs they sing, the "style" they use and the fact they use their bodies to sell albums that are nothing but crap (Loverboy, anyone?) makes them nothing but attention whores in my book. Hell, look at Whitney. Her career was going down so what does she do? Get a boob job.
rolleye.gif

whitney is in some serious trouble right now due to her drug addiction. i feel nothing but contempt for her because she threw away everything. she was born to a great family, she had looks, talent galore and she threw that all away due to an addiction to drugs.

HOWEVER, i will never deny she had the talent, my contempt for her is as great as the level of talent she had.

I unlike you can recognize talent even in people i despise.

Sorry...but if she'd sung "I Will Always Love You" on The Gong Show and done that screeching, J.P. Morgan would have hit the bong so hard it would have broken in half! :D

Technical skills != talent

wrong, Talent = natural ability that someone is born with. she is naturally born with an ability to do things with her voice that VERY FEW people can do.

Techical skill = what the person does with that talent.

she was born with talent, she cultivated that talent to be able to do things that very few people can do.

whethor or not YOU like what she does with it does not mean she hasn't achieved it.

her boob job, using her body etc really has nothing to do with her ability to sing.

i don't get why you confuse those issues. it's like people who hate barry bonds soo much that they continue to deny that he has any athletic talent at all. that's just ludicrous.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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No, *you* have it backwards. Talent is what one does with technical skill.

I could be technically skilled to saw, lathe, etc. but if I couldn't build a shed or a bookcase I wouldn't be very talented.
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: conjur
No, *you* have it backwards. Talent is what one does with technical skill.

I could be technically skilled to saw, lathe, etc. but if I couldn't build a shed or a bookcase I wouldn't be very talented.

You have it backwards.

Talent: Natural endowment or ability of a superior quality (according to dictionary.com)

everyone knows that talent is what your born with and skill is what you develop.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Ok...you got me...I checked www.m-w.com. Guess I've been misusing the term, eh?

Ok...she has talent, then. BUT, she has NO SKILL! :p


I'm hungry...off to eat ;)
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: conjur
Ok...you got me...I checked www.m-w.com. Guess I've been misusing the term, eh?

Ok...she has talent, then. BUT, she has NO SKILL! :p


I'm hungry...off to eat ;)

later, but i'm still gonna get the last word in.

her level of SKILL is YOUR OPINION.