March 3,2016 GOP debate thread

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hal2kilo

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Yeah I felt that Trump didn't practice enough for this debate despite relying on his charisma to deflect attacks. Despite winning, he probably shouldn't have done a rally earlier in the day. You could tell he wasn't in his usual attack dog mode.

Such as RE: The Trump University thing, he should be actively working to get evidence that it got an A (which it did at one point). Imagine if he pulled the dates where it got an A out of his pocket? Kaboom. Or if he could provide evidence or a printout of how many people gave it a favorable rating? I felt like his team could have given him more ammo to fire back. Also on how he's going to fund-his-plan-video gotcha that the moderators pulled on him. He needs to get his numbers right instead of just talking about the IRS/EPA etc. That would've put the nail in the coffin last night if he had all the numbers ready.

That said, he did good sticking to his "off the record" guns regarding the NYTimes since it makes sense. If something is off the record, why should it be publicly published? He stuck to his guns on waterboarding and the wall. He did good on the gotcha video of him changing some of his stances, like the refugees where he admitted he changed his stance when more information was available. He did well defending attacks on the seasonal workers and writing checks to clinton.

He slammed Rubio again on the worst absentee voting record in the country for a senator. That is going to be Rubio's death knell. Sucks to be him, there is no excuse for that. People take voting very seriously.

Cruz trying to give donald a taste of his own medicine with the calm down bit was hilarious. Mainly because Cruz is acting out of character. Where the fuck was this in all of the other debates? He's not fooling anyone, he's a beta whose handlers are trying to emulate Trump's alpha character. It was great entertainment to watch. In the end, I liked that Trump didn't slam Cruz too much because Cruz will be a key endorsement when he joins his buddy Sessions after losing. Kasich, you can tell is just waiting for Trump to become the inevitable nom before he drops out and endorses him. I think if Trump can take Ohio from Kasich then Kasich will endorse.

Love is never having to say you're sorry. :wub:
 

Moonbeam

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Frankly I don't think that debate could have went any better for Trump. If they really wanted to hit Trump hard they should have ignored him for 3/4 of the show like they did most of the other candidates and then included him a bit in the end. Instead it was like one big long ass Trump commercial. It's so amusingly ironic that they are creating exactly what they are so desperately trying to prevent.

Where have I heard this, 'We create what we fear', thingi before?

The modern conservative brain defect is the fear of feeling what we fear, of facing our unconscious feelings via the collapse of the altered realizes we self generate as a group build up our ego so we do not ever have to face them. The GOP is a pathology, a diseased way of experiencing the world, the illusion of masculinity and strength to hide our insecurities and weakness. It is in particular a patriarchal disease, the idolization of the authoritarian father. In the end, when unmasked by extremes, it will always degenerate into a dick contest.

There is no knowledge that self knowledge can't reveal via sincerity and honesty. When you look at the conservative mind set, what you see are fearful cowards who have been emasculated.

The wonderful thing about Trump and why I will vote for him is that he's a true believer. He's as happy as Larry being a total idiot. He wants to make America great again and may in fact be so internally self satisfied with himself and fearless of making mistakes, that he'll do the best job he can. A person who has no fear of being wrong can be open to what is right. Water finds its way to the sea when it flows. He may be so self assured that he can take advise. The rest of the dick squad running for GOP are armature hour undeveloped needy egos by comparison which makes them basically fanatics.
 

zinfamous

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Yeah I felt that Trump didn't practice enough for this debate despite relying on his charisma to deflect attacks. Despite winning, he probably shouldn't have done a rally earlier in the day. You could tell he wasn't in his usual attack dog mode.

Such as RE: The Trump University thing, he should be actively working to get evidence that it got an A (which it did at one point). Imagine if he pulled the dates where it got an A out of his pocket? Kaboom. .

:confused:

Bernie Madoff once got "an A." Doesn't mean that was ever legitimate.

So it is with fraud.

As to Trump, he really needs to win this nomination. The GOP needs this more than anything right now.
 

Darwin333

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fluffers?

Do they have the male equivalent of fluffers? Is this going to be a side by side comparison on stage because I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be standing side by side with 4 or 5 other old guys all with raging boners. Or maybe they do it one at a time with an "official ruler" but then you will have controversy about someone using a "loaded ruler" which would be downright fun come to think of it.

So, now we have to come up with some sort of formula that accounts for both length and girth. Do we use circumference or diameter? Just add the two numbers together or do we give more weight to either length or girth? So many details just for a presidential dick measuring contest.
 

Moonbeam

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Cruz has that LBJ vibe.

It's hard to describe what we see in people. An LBJ vibe would be one way to try to identify a feeling one has about another, just as the Joe McCarthy one does and one that I feel is more accurate. I wonder, therefore, why you say LBJ when LBJ was haunted and eventually destroyed by his decisions over all the lives lost in Vietnam? In short, I see a tortured conscious in LBJ and a depth of emotional feeling, whereas in Cruz I see only a self assured religious fanatic and psychopath, the most dangerous and worst kind of person produced by our diseased political system.
 

UberNeuman

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It was Ted's homage to Raiders of the Lost Ark.
 

bozack

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Well congrats to all the Hillary supporters after last nights decisive win...

That was a complete s show...starting out talking about junk size, to the coordinated attack on the donald with the visual aids (too funny) to TrusTED eating a booger off his face....can't get any better than that.

Part of me thinks Donald was put up to this just to get Hillary elected, get someone out there more hated than her.
 

Jhhnn

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This is how devolved that political spectrum has become, that dick size is a relevant talking point in a political debate. o_O

You're only talking about one side of the political spectrum. Well, at the Presidential level, anyway. The Republican Party is becoming something different, something even more primal than we've become accustomed to.

I feel badly for conservatives. They've been in denial for decades & are moving on to the next stage, anger. They're mad at the Establishment but they still hold the values of the Establishment about a lot of things like taxes, inequality, ownership & the relationship between Capital & Labor.

They figured out that the Repub leadership has been bullshitting them for a long time but there are parts of that they have backwards.

Tax cuts at the top don't create jobs.

Trickledown doesn't work.

The jobs aren't coming back.

Abstinence only sex ed doesn't work.

Abortion won't be banned.

Religion won't be coming to public schools.

Economic freedom for billionaires doesn't mean freedom for everybody else.

The only way we'll get big money out of politics is to allow less of it to the people who put it in.

Conservatives would rather think about the size of Donald's dick than any of that.
 

Hugo Drax

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Now what happens after 8 years of Hillary and nothing happens other than more outsourcing, same old WS/Banks, more wars and globalization etc.. same shit.

I wonder if the Democrats would end up having a civil war like the GOP? At some point people are gonna end up waking up. You can only keep squeezing the American public to a point before it gives.

We are already seeing this with the Republicans.
 

Fern

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Omg googled it, so many stories and pics, can't stop laughing :D

No idea what it was lol.

I think it's a bit of styrofoam, probably from a cup of water at his podium.

Fern
 

SP33Demon

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Bernie Madoff once got "an A." Doesn't mean that was ever legitimate.

So it is with fraud.

As to Trump, he really needs to win this nomination. The GOP needs this more than anything right now.
Well, the grade fluctuated between A and D according to the BBB. Would be nice for Trump to tout the time periods it was an "A" to throw it back in his opponents face. He can explain away the D as people from the lawsuit slandering him and then say it was an A before that. Either way it matters not when people realize that Trump has hundreds of successful businesses. A few here or there are going to flop simply by the law of statistics. Trump started hammering home this point yesterday at the rally when talking about the Gucci store worth more than Romney, Trump Tower, the Rink in NYC, and a bunch of other addresses he mentioned in Manhattan.

The funny part is that Cruz has never started one successful biz in his life. Anyone of us opening up our own business would be ballsier than Cruz who has been sucking the gov/lobbyist teat for his entire career.
 
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fskimospy

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Well, the grade fluctuated between A and D according to the BBB. Would be nice for Trump to tout the time periods it was an "A" to throw it back in his opponents face. He can explain away the D as people from the lawsuit slandering him and then say it was an A before that.

Yes, it had an A before all the people it defrauded started complaining about the fraud. Once having an A means nothing if you ended up with a D-.

People will laugh at him if he keeps trying to insist that it had an A.
 

emperus

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Well, the grade fluctuated between A and D according to the BBB. Would be nice for Trump to tout the time periods it was an "A" to throw it back in his opponents face. He can explain away the D as people from the lawsuit slandering him and then say it was an A before that. Either way it matters not when people realize that Trump has hundreds of successful businesses. A few here or there are going to flop simply by the law of statistics. Trump started hammering home this point yesterday at the rally when talking about the Gucci store worth more than Romney, Trump Tower, the Rink in NYC, and a bunch of other addresses he mentioned in Manhattan.

The funny part is that Cruz has never started one successful biz in his life. Anyone of us opening up our own business would be ballsier than Cruz who has been sucking the gov/lobbyist teat for his entire career.

He is being civily sued for defrauding people. Defrauding people who were trying to better their lives none the less.

So, Trump University wasn't just a good/bad business idea that failed, it was a scam intent on defrauding people. What you are saying is akin to Madoff just being a failed business man or just having a business that failed.
 

ivwshane

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I think we've found trumps fluffer right here folks! SP33Demon seems to be the perfect man for the job, he'll take anything trump spews out and won't think any less of him.


Well, the grade fluctuated between A and D according to the BBB. Would be nice for Trump to tout the time periods it was an "A" to throw it back in his opponents face. He can explain away the D as people from the lawsuit slandering him and then say it was an A before that. Either way it matters not when people realize that Trump has hundreds of successful businesses. A few here or there are going to flop simply by the law of statistics. Trump started hammering home this point yesterday at the rally when talking about the Gucci store worth more than Romney, Trump Tower, the Rink in NYC, and a bunch of other addresses he mentioned in Manhattan.

The funny part is that Cruz has never started one successful biz in his life. Anyone of us opening up our own business would be ballsier than Cruz who has been sucking the gov/lobbyist teat for his entire career.
 
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Well, the grade fluctuated between A and D according to the BBB. Would be nice for Drumpf to tout the time periods it was an "A" to throw it back in his opponents face. He can explain away the D as people from the lawsuit slandering him and then say it was an A before that. Either way it matters not when people realize that Drumpf has hundreds of successful businesses. A few here or there are going to flop simply by the law of statistics. Drumpf started hammering home this point yesterday at the rally when talking about the Gucci store worth more than Romney, Drumpf Tower, the Rink in NYC, and a bunch of other addresses he mentioned in Manhattan.

The funny part is that Cruz has never started one successful biz in his life. Anyone of us opening up our own business would be ballsier than Cruz who has been sucking the gov/lobbyist teat for his entire career.

keep shakin' those pom poms like a good cheerleader.
 

zinfamous

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Well, the grade fluctuated between A and D according to the BBB. Would be nice for Trump to tout the time periods it was an "A" to throw it back in his opponents face. He can explain away the D as people from the lawsuit slandering him and then say it was an A before that. Either way it matters not when people realize that Trump has hundreds of successful businesses. A few here or there are going to flop simply by the law of statistics. Trump started hammering home this point yesterday at the rally when talking about the Gucci store worth more than Romney, Trump Tower, the Rink in NYC, and a bunch of other addresses he mentioned in Manhattan.

The funny part is that Cruz has never started one successful biz in his life. Anyone of us opening up our own business would be ballsier than Cruz who has been sucking the gov/lobbyist teat for his entire career.

Is it probable that you truly believe this shit that you are typing? slander, really? :D

Throwing "a time point of A grade back in their faces?"

Does this kind of thing actually work on you?

Has Trump actually started a successful business? I think all of his businesses have actually failed. The only thing that he seems to have done with his inherited wealth is to lease some big buildings and toss his name on it.

Do you actually believe he is some kind of self-made man?
 

lopri

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The Duck is damaging the Republican brand one way or another. To think that SCOTUS just heard a major case on abortion and there has not been a thread on P/N? Conservative ideologies are being dismantled or exiled. Maybe it's what they needed.
 

Hugo Drax

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Is it probable that you truly believe this shit that you are typing? slander, really? :D

Throwing "a time point of A grade back in their faces?"

Does this kind of thing actually work on you?

Has Trump actually started a successful business? I think all of his businesses have actually failed. The only thing that he seems to have done with his inherited wealth is to lease some big buildings and toss his name on it.

Do you actually believe he is some kind of self-made man?

How much did he inherit? I hear numbers all over the place. But here is the issue, you give the Average American 100 million and 4 years later they are broke and living under a bridge.

To say he is not a success is a false story. He definitely is successful he attained seed money and was able to create a business that obviously generates cash flow.

Look at Rubio for example, he ended up in negative net worth even after he sold some books and got some cushy jobs, not only that he "Mistakenly" used GOP credit cards to pay bills.