Manual Transmission Questions

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: TechnoKid

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: AgaBooga

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: notfred
If you weren't supposed to rev it past 2500 the red line on the tach would be at 2500, not 6500.

I can understand that point of view, but my situation is that my dad loves this car because of how well he's taken care of it and he's had it for quite some time. I don't plan on going against him at all, but since I feel fortunate to even have a car right when I turn 16, I plan on just going by his rules.

That being said, doesn't mean I won't accelerate a little faster, but obviously within limit and nothing to form a habit. Like love1u0 said, I'll probably shift at 3k even though when I was doing 3k in 1st gear by mistake once my dad was wondering what I was doing and told me to stop talking to my brother and focus on driving.

I'm going to try out shifting at 2500 rpm for first gear because I also prefer a quiet ride and then gears after that I'll do between 2.5k and 3k RPM. The other thing is my dad can shift at 2500 RPM for most gears including first and keep up with other cars at stop lights, stop signs, etc. so I know its not all in the RPM, its also efficiency on the driver's part, which in this case seems to have a bigger effect than say the engine itself or the RPM's I shift it at.

I'll probably shift between 2500 rpm and 3000 rpm now but I'm going to focus on efficiency of changing gears because I know you don't need to shift at 4k every time to keep up with other cars on the road in terms of accelerating.

Walleye - Thanks for the tips especially about using the clutch, I think that will change my acceleration quite a bit once I get more practice with it.

Thanks everyone! :beer: for all!

Shifting at such low rpm strains the engine if you are trying to accelerate quickly. Your dad doesn't know what he is doing if he yells at you for shifting at 3k.

Lugging the engine is bad....

definitely.....the engine is producing calulated combustions that result in about a minimum of 1000rev/s. ....imagine if you force it to go slower....NOT GOOD>

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: SammyBoy
lol, there's hardly any usable power at 2500rpms in most cars, let alone your pappy's honduh. If you wanna drive a bit quickly or keep up with normal speed traffic at lights, you're gonna have to get a bit more daring than that I know in my buddy's civic in 1st gear the thing's hardly rolling at 2500rpms in 1st and you'd lug big time in 2nd.

Bring it up to at least 4k or so in normal acceleration, not gonna hurt anything. I usually take my GTi up to 5k or so when i'm being mildly aggressive.

Max torque on my stock 4 banger Honda is 2500 rpms.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: SammyBoy
lol, there's hardly any usable power at 2500rpms in most cars, let alone your pappy's honduh. If you wanna drive a bit quickly or keep up with normal speed traffic at lights, you're gonna have to get a bit more daring than that I know in my buddy's civic in 1st gear the thing's hardly rolling at 2500rpms in 1st and you'd lug big time in 2nd.

Bring it up to at least 4k or so in normal acceleration, not gonna hurt anything. I usually take my GTi up to 5k or so when i'm being mildly aggressive.

Max torque on my stock 4 banger Honda is 2500 rpms.

Sure about that? Never heard of such a thing. The V6's maybe, but not the I4's...

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: Eli

Sure about that? Never heard of such a thing. The V6's maybe, but not the I4's...

How much you wanna bet?

 

[Jombo]

Originally posted by: AgaBooga

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: notfred If you weren't supposed to rev it past 2500 the red line on the tach would be at 2500, not 6500.

I can understand that point of view, but my situation is that my dad loves this car because of how well he's taken care of it and he's had it for quite some time. I don't plan on going against him at all, but since I feel fortunate to even have a car right when I turn 16, I plan on just going by his rules. That being said, doesn't mean I won't accelerate a little faster, but obviously within limit and nothing to form a habit. Like love1u0 said, I'll probably shift at 3k even though when I was doing 3k in 1st gear by mistake once my dad was wondering what I was doing and told me to stop talking to my brother and focus on driving. I'm going to try out shifting at 2500 rpm for first gear because I also prefer a quiet ride and then gears after that I'll do between 2.5k and 3k RPM. The other thing is my dad can shift at 2500 RPM for most gears including first and keep up with other cars at stop lights, stop signs, etc. so I know its not all in the RPM, its also efficiency on the driver's part, which in this case seems to have a bigger effect than say the engine itself or the RPM's I shift it at. I'll probably shift between 2500 rpm and 3000 rpm now but I'm going to focus on efficiency of changing gears because I know you don't need to shift at 4k every time to keep up with other cars on the road in terms of accelerating. Walleye - Thanks for the tips especially about using the clutch, I think that will change my acceleration quite a bit once I get more practice with it. Thanks everyone! :beer: for all!

you dad owns you.. btw are you sure you aren't 15 turning 60?

you are losing speed at shifts, because you don't know where the clutch catches, and while engine free revs, you miss out on the precious go power. you'll get better w/ it, promise

only time my drivng resembled what you are doing is when i was being geltle w/ my car while breaking it in..

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: Jombo

Originally posted by: AgaBooga

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: notfred If you weren't supposed to rev it past 2500 the red line on the tach would be at 2500, not 6500.

I can understand that point of view, but my situation is that my dad loves this car because of how well he's taken care of it and he's had it for quite some time. I don't plan on going against him at all, but since I feel fortunate to even have a car right when I turn 16, I plan on just going by his rules. That being said, doesn't mean I won't accelerate a little faster, but obviously within limit and nothing to form a habit. Like love1u0 said, I'll probably shift at 3k even though when I was doing 3k in 1st gear by mistake once my dad was wondering what I was doing and told me to stop talking to my brother and focus on driving. I'm going to try out shifting at 2500 rpm for first gear because I also prefer a quiet ride and then gears after that I'll do between 2.5k and 3k RPM. The other thing is my dad can shift at 2500 RPM for most gears including first and keep up with other cars at stop lights, stop signs, etc. so I know its not all in the RPM, its also efficiency on the driver's part, which in this case seems to have a bigger effect than say the engine itself or the RPM's I shift it at. I'll probably shift between 2500 rpm and 3000 rpm now but I'm going to focus on efficiency of changing gears because I know you don't need to shift at 4k every time to keep up with other cars on the road in terms of accelerating. Walleye - Thanks for the tips especially about using the clutch, I think that will change my acceleration quite a bit once I get more practice with it. Thanks everyone! :beer: for all!

you dad owns you.. btw are you sure you aren't 15 turning 60?

you are losing speed at shifts, because you don't know where the clutch catches, and while engine free revs, you miss out on the precious go power. you'll get better w/ it, promise

only time my drivng resembled what you are doing is when i was being geltle w/ my car while breaking it in..

As I said earlier my reasoning for doing this is that its his car, I am glad I'll have a car right when I turn 16, and that I won't have to ride the bus.

My dad likes to keep his cars till the end from the start so I'm pretty sure he's gonna keep this car till it dies on us, probably another 40 or 50k miles at least. Anything beyond that is great, but he just wants to keep it through my learning time and my brother's.