Manafort Just Couldn't Stop Lying

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cytg111

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The circle is closing in
Wikileaks <-> Assange <-> Manafort <-> Stone <-> Trump <-> Corsi <-> Wikileaks
And someone in that circle got them juicy buttermails from Russia.
There is a fire burning... Its a dumpster trumpster fire burning.
BURN THE WITCH!!!
 
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Perknose

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The circle is closing in
Wikileaks <-> Assange <-> Manafort <-> Stone <-> Trump <-> Corsi <-> Wikileaks
And someone in that circle got them juicy buttermails from Russia.
There is a fire burning... Its a dumpster trumpster fire burning.
BURN THE WITCH!!!
Maybe throw Trump into the Potomac (figuratively!) and see if he floats! #TrueEnemyofthePeople
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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New reporting from the Guardian this morning: Manafort allegedly met with Assange in UK (Ecuadorian embassy) in March 2016. This might be one of those things Manafort is "lying" about.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...cret-talks-with-assange-in-ecuadorian-embassy

Manafort held secret talks with Assange in Ecuadorian embassy

Exclusive: Trump ally met WikiLeaks founder months before emails hacked by Russia were published

Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort held secret talks with Julian Assange inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London, and visited around the time he joined Trump’s campaign, the Guardian has been told.

Sources have said Manafort went to see Assange in 2013, 2015 and in spring 2016 – during the period when he was made a key figure in Trump’s push for the White House.

It is unclear why Manafort wanted to see Assange and what was discussed. But the last meeting is likely to come under scrutiny and could interest Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor who is investigating alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

A well-placed source has told the Guardian that Manafort went to see Assange around March 2016. Months later WikiLeaks released a stash of Democratic emails stolen by Russian intelligence officers.

Manafort, 69, denies involvement in the hack and says the claim is “100% false”. His lawyers declined to answer the Guardian’s questions about the visits.
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This is a likely reason in part why the pending charges against Assange are under seal in order to keep the conspirators in the dark as much as possible.
 
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UNCjigga

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Hmm, those in Manafort's and Stone's orbits are a little sensitive right now..

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jackstar7

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I was reading that some of Manafort's new crimes could outlast Trump's administration and thus if they sit on them and wait to charge until DJT is out, then Paul can't get pardoned for those and he's effed.
 

fskimospy

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New reporting from the Guardian this morning: Manafort allegedly met with Assange in UK (Ecuadorian embassy) in March 2016. This might be one of those things Manafort is "lying" about.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...cret-talks-with-assange-in-ecuadorian-embassy

Manafort held secret talks with Assange in Ecuadorian embassy

Exclusive: Trump ally met WikiLeaks founder months before emails hacked by Russia were published

Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort held secret talks with Julian Assange inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London, and visited around the time he joined Trump’s campaign, the Guardian has been told.

Sources have said Manafort went to see Assange in 2013, 2015 and in spring 2016 – during the period when he was made a key figure in Trump’s push for the White House.

It is unclear why Manafort wanted to see Assange and what was discussed. But the last meeting is likely to come under scrutiny and could interest Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor who is investigating alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

A well-placed source has told the Guardian that Manafort went to see Assange around March 2016. Months later WikiLeaks released a stash of Democratic emails stolen by Russian intelligence officers.

Manafort, 69, denies involvement in the hack and says the claim is “100% false”. His lawyers declined to answer the Guardian’s questions about the visits.
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This probably deserves its own thread. We now have Trump's soon to be campaign manager secretly meeting with the conduit Russia used to disseminate the stolen emails. I will be very, very interested to see what Mueller claims Manafort was lying about in his upcoming filing because if it's about this then Trump could be in deeeeeeeep shit.

I read something else I thought was interesting as well, Mueller seems absolutely certain Manafort is lying, meaning he already had that information from another source.
 

Jhhnn

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And the fire catches on ..


Could Paul Manafort, Julian Assange bombshell be the beginning of the end for Trump?


http://www2.philly.com/philly/colum...meetings-trump-impeachment-risk-20181127.html

Gotta love the Trump tweet-

....The Fake News Media builds Bob Mueller up as a Saint, when in actuality he is the exact opposite. He is doing TREMENDOUS damage to our Criminal Justice System, where he is only looking at one side and not the other. Heroes will come of this, and it won’t be Mueller and his...

Facts don't have a side, Donald, although they do have a liberal bias.
 

cytg111

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How Mueller and team is building this all up suggest a few things to me...

1. They got dem IQ's
2. They are here to bring the pain.

Soon Trumps only resort will be his last resort : The Pardons. Lets see what happens then.

Trump is like this toddler; its no fair, they rigged it too, why Mueller only look at me... No fair. Everybody rigs, specially crooked Hillary.
 

Jhhnn

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This probably deserves its own thread. We now have Trump's soon to be campaign manager secretly meeting with the conduit Russia used to disseminate the stolen emails. I will be very, very interested to see what Mueller claims Manafort was lying about in his upcoming filing because if it's about this then Trump could be in deeeeeeeep shit.

I read something else I thought was interesting as well, Mueller seems absolutely certain Manafort is lying, meaning he already had that information from another source.

Huh-uhh! It was about adoptions!
 

UNCjigga

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I'm not sure I buy the whole Manafort-Assange meeting story without knowing more about the source and what evidence was provided. My spidey sense wonders if it's a fake story that was planted just so it could be proven false and this whole investigation thrown into doubt.

That said, I don't think the Guardian is easy to fool. But I'm eagerly awaiting more info from Team Mueller related to Manafort's sentencing.
 

trenchfoot

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Methinks the ultimate most painful punishment that Trump could be sentenced with is to compel him to take both knees and apologize face to face to every single person he has ever mocked and insulted with his childish brand of name calling.

It's not in his lexicon, it was never in his heart and I believe he's never ever done it with any amount of sincerity.

"So let it be written, so let it be done."
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I'm not sure I buy the whole Manafort-Assange meeting story without knowing more about the source and what evidence was provided. My spidey sense wonders if it's a fake story that was planted just so it could be proven false and this whole investigation thrown into doubt.

That said, I don't think the Guardian is easy to fool. But I'm eagerly awaiting more info from Team Mueller related to Manafort's sentencing.

I agree there needs to be some independent verification but if this holds up people will need to start checking their food and drink for radioactivity.
 

evident

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Wikileaks is accusing The Guardian of lying. Is there any concrete evidence to refute wikileaks at this point? ( I really don't know)
 

ivwshane

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I'm half suspicious that Manafort fed Trump's legal team info about the investigation that was used to complete the questions that Trump answered to Muller. In which case Trump has turned in answers replete with things Mueller knows, and can prove, to be lies.

Yep. Sounds like Mueller set a trap for manafort but the trap was to catch trump in a lie as well. Trumps written answers will no doubt match up with manaforts bullshit answers for which Mueller already knows they are bullshit.

So we have trump not only lying to the FBI, but we also have obstruction of justice for colluding with manafort to mislead FBI.

I'm sure there will be more as well.


Trump is so out of his league and is fucked!

WINNING!!!
 

zinfamous

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I'm not sure I buy the whole Manafort-Assange meeting story without knowing more about the source and what evidence was provided. My spidey sense wonders if it's a fake story that was planted just so it could be proven false and this whole investigation thrown into doubt.

That said, I don't think the Guardian is easy to fool. But I'm eagerly awaiting more info from Team Mueller related to Manafort's sentencing.

Greenwald is off The Guardian now, so there is less concern for his shenanigans at play. Still, I don't disagree with you.
 

fskimospy

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Wikileaks is accusing The Guardian of lying. Is there any concrete evidence to refute wikileaks at this point? ( I really don't know)

WikiLeaks also accused people of lying about reports of them in contact with Trump Jr. and Roger Stone before they were proven to be true.

I’m not aware of other independent verification of this Guardian story so there’s certainly a chance it isn’t true but there is zero reason to believe a word Wikileaks says as they have been caught repeatedly lying in the past about exactly this sort of thing.
 

Commodus

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WikiLeaks also accused people of lying about reports of them in contact with Trump Jr. and Roger Stone before they were proven to be true.

I’m not aware of other independent verification of this Guardian story so there’s certainly a chance it isn’t true but there is zero reason to believe a word Wikileaks says as they have been caught repeatedly lying in the past about exactly this sort of thing.

As it stands, WikiLeaks has every incentive to lie about its connections to the Trump campaign... because if it's shown that the organization was explicitly taking sides and corrupting politics, its credibility (whatever it has, anyway) is shot. WikiLeaks' whole image is based on the claim that it's interested in the raw truth, whoever it damages, and this would prove that this claim has been a lie.
 

ivwshane

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As it stands, WikiLeaks has every incentive to lie about its connections to the Trump campaign... because if it's shown that the organization was explicitly taking sides and corrupting politics, its credibility (whatever it has, anyway) is shot. WikiLeaks' whole image is based on the claim that it's interested in the raw truth, whoever it damages, and this would prove that this claim has been a lie.

I'm pretty sure WikiLeaks is already damaged goods. I certainly wouldn't use them.
 

fskimospy

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As it stands, WikiLeaks has every incentive to lie about its connections to the Trump campaign... because if it's shown that the organization was explicitly taking sides and corrupting politics, its credibility (whatever it has, anyway) is shot. WikiLeaks' whole image is based on the claim that it's interested in the raw truth, whoever it damages, and this would prove that this claim has been a lie.

I think that ship has already sailed, haha.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks/545738/

The messages, obtained by The Atlantic, were also turned over by Trump Jr.’s lawyers to congressional investigators. They are part of a long—and largely one-sided—correspondence between WikiLeaks and the president’s son that continued until at least July 2017. The messages show WikiLeaks, a radical transparency organization that the American intelligence community believeswas chosen by the Russian government to disseminate the information it had hacked, actively soliciting Trump Jr.’s cooperation. WikiLeaks made a series of increasingly bold requests, including asking for Trump’s tax returns, urging the Trump campaign on Election Day to reject the results of the election as rigged, and requesting that the president-elect tell Australia to appoint Julian Assange ambassador to the United States.

Honestly after their reaction to the Panama Papers their credibility has been very questionable. Since the 2016 election though? Zero. Assange has completely destroyed that organization.
 
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SMOGZINN

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I think that ship has already sailed, haha.

Honestly after their reaction to the Panama Papers their credibility has been very questionable. Since the 2016 election though? Zero. Assange has completely destroyed that organization.

I agree, Wikileaks credibility is questionable at best, and even that much means it can no longer fulfill the role it claims to exist for. Which is sad because I believe the world needs such an organization. Our world is too filled with secrets and propaganda, we need a group that can extra-legally disseminate information that powerful people and the governments that protect them want kept secret.