Fenixgoon
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I conceal carry, and I think it's perfectly okay for anyone to do as long as they are qualified to do so. I think you mis-interpreted my post. I agree with you.
apparently I did. Big time
I conceal carry, and I think it's perfectly okay for anyone to do as long as they are qualified to do so. I think you mis-interpreted my post. I agree with you.
There was no violence, and no threat. The fact that some perceived a threat is their own shortcoming.
He would have to be aiming/waving (brandishing) for there to be any threat, and the law recognizes as such.
Seriously, if that's the definition you're applying, then I'm a "terrorist" by simply putting a rifle on my back and stepping off my property; all because my neighbors would irrationally freak out.
I thought liberals were against things like the Patriot Act? Guess when their precious feelings get hurt all bets are off.
+1 ? really?
Are you the same xjohnx from the trayvon martin thread?
You guys are hilarious... you're fucking hypocrites and you don't even try to hide it.
Yea, +1 my ass. I'd love to see the reaction if some Arab guy dressed in a turban open carried an AK into a mall, or better yet a church in the South. I'm sure the boys would welcome his expression of support for the 2nd A. and his blossoming interest in the salvation Jesus Christ has to offer.
I once shot next to 3 Arab guys (and yes, they were actually speaking Arabic) at the freaking NRA range. Funny how after noticing that they were Arab and thinking of some humorous political irony (given that this was the NRA range), I stopped giving a shit and focused on my shooting.
And point of fact I'm not a conservative nor am I from the south, nor am I even a Christian. So nice try with the pigeon-holing. I would love you to see my reaction to those scenarios as well. They'd be identical to my reaction over a white guy doing the same. Oh and in most states carrying any sort of weapon in a church or religious building is prohibited.
http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/article_42d81e6e-68d9-11e2-afbf-0019bb30f31a.html
WTF is wrong with these gun nuts, they are basically terrorizing people by walking around in public,holding assault weapons. This is really sick, and beyond ridiculous that it isn't illegal. Good for Kroeger for banning this nut case.
Edit: Fine I changed the title, I still say people feared for their lives though.
Alright, since we're nitpicking: his point is that anyone who saw a slung rifle and didn't immediately tense up deserves a darwin award. Yeah, because being cool under fire (or in this case, lack thereof) is the realm of CRAZY!!!
One can calmly take notice of and react to a situation, even where there's a perceived threat. His "point" is just as stupid.
There are a lot of squirrely people in this thread.
Alright, since we're nitpicking: his point is that anyone who saw a slung rifle and didn't immediately tense up deserves a darwin award. Yeah, because being cool under fire (or in this case, lack thereof) is the realm of CRAZY!!!
One can calmly take notice of and react to a situation, even where there's a perceived threat. His "point" is just as stupid.
There are a lot of squirrely people in this thread.
Nobody used the term "tense up" but you.
So again, you aren't responding to what I said or the other person, you are attributing your statement to us then responding as though we said it.
BTW, you just contradicted your own point. Whether one does it calmly or in some other manner, taking notice of and reacting to a situation is EXACTLY what the original person said that you made a point of ridiculing.
Becasue taking notice of something and reacting, even if its just to be aware of the situation, isn't going about one's business. Its a change.
I know I would have been terrorized if I saw someone walking into the grocery store with a loaded assault rifle, like he plans to gun us all down. I am sure many there felt the same way.
although it is within his rights to carry ARs w/o concealment, it may not always be prudent to do so. What would people do, if they spot someone carrying an AR15 near a school? I'd say most would probably call the police just because you cannot distinguish lawful citizens v people who is about to shoot up a school.
This you can say is profiling, may even be discriminatory, but hell, I'd do the same thing and call police. Who's gonna take a chance w/ their own lives or lives of their children?
But but but profiling is wrong. We shouldn't profile the poor oppressed individuals open carrying rifles, their feelings might get hurt.
Nobody used the term "tense up" but you.
So again, you aren't responding to what I said or the other person, you are attributing your statement to us then responding as though we said it.
BTW, you just contradicted your own point. Whether one does it calmly or in some other manner, taking notice of and reacting to a situation is EXACTLY what the original person said that you made a point of ridiculing.
Becasue taking notice of something and reacting, even if its just to be aware of the situation, isn't going about one's business. Its a change.
No, my point is that (and pay attention to the string of words and how they are strung together or better known as the sentence) Anyone in our current client who saw someone leave the grocery store, head to their car and return with a loaded AR-15 and calmly goes about their business deserves a Darwin Award. If you want to debate me, debate what I actually wrote, not an iteration you concocted in your mind.
Or maybe you just deserve a Darwin award.
I think you have a cartoon image of what courage is. Most cowards do.
If I saw a guy go get an AR-15 and come back, so long as it remained slung and he didn't appear to be setting up a shot or otherwise acting suspiciously, I'd see a guy with an AR-15, likely a protestor given the recent spat of such protests.
I don't know what I could possibly say that wouldn't be insulting. A guy leaves a store gets a gun and returns and ur first thought is protester? Ok.. Right.
Other's peoples Constitutional freedoms seems to scary the crap out of you. Why?The people at the store feared for their safety and lives, that is why they called 911. They were terrorized.
Huh?
To be clear, we're debating if someone who sees an open-carried AR-15 and "calmly goes about their business" (direct quote from emperus) deserves a darwin award or not. I say no, they don't deserve a darwin outside of specific circumstances. You and emperus seem to think otherwise.
I never said there would be no change in behavior. There's a change in behavior to everything in one's environment. There's a change in behavior to the freaking air conditioning turning on. I fail to see your point. If you don't react calmly to something, then you are reacting non-calmly, which is to a certain degree synonymous with "tense up".
http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/article_42d81e6e-68d9-11e2-afbf-0019bb30f31a.html
WTF is wrong with these gun nuts, they are basically terrorizing people by walking around in public,holding assault weapons. This is really sick, and beyond ridiculous that it isn't illegal. Good for Kroeger for banning this nut case.
Edit: Fine I changed the title, I still say people feared for their lives though.
Open carry is legal, but I sure as shit wouldnt do it. Only makes trouble. It also makes you a target, which increases your likelihood of being attacked, which is kind of the point of carrying a weapon, to not be a victim.
Also, at 22 he cannot honestly say he grew up being allowed to carry a rifle everywhere.
I walk into a Krogers weekly with a Glock G30 .45 semi-auto and 30 rounds of munitions. The only people who would need to fear me are those who intend to do harm to innocent folks. So far no one in the store fears me.