Man shopping in JC Penny in Utah with AR 15 & holstered Glock.

[ivwshane]

Apparently Israelis have taught their guns how to behave while shopping, and not jump off their backs and start killing people while out shopping, or on school trips. According to the living in fear, anti-gun nut jobs, all those children should be dead, and that shop should look like the OK Corral (Yes, I am just mocking here).

Yes Israel is the shining example of what the US should strive to be!



What a fucking tool.

 

[blankslate]

Do you say the same about offensive art?

Is the art offensive just for the sake of being offensive? Hold on let me get this drawing off of my wall and see if I can use it for plinking at the range

 

[blankslate]

mexico is a fairly credible and active threat to a number of us citizens seeing as how around half the mexican army is working for/with the cartels and shepards them to the border

That is a different natured threat than Mexico having a stated goal of destroying the U.S. as at least one political leader in the middle east has said about Israel.

Additionally if we closed a few bases overseas those military member could be placed on the border. Maybe that might run into issues with active military members operating in the U.S. though. If that's the case National Guard members could be used.

seriously/ he had a loaded handgun, which almost no one is talking about.

I would not be surprised if he had a CCW and a person can potentially do a lot more damage with a rifle than a glock even if it's just a .223 / 5.56 mm round. The velocity of the round as it leaves the muzzle has a lot to do with this.

However, that is a good point why open carry when you have a CCW if JC Penny asshat did have one. Does anyone know?

 

[Tom]

Wow, they even trained their "Real" assault weapon to behave as well!!!!!!

No, what they do is train their humans. We should have the same kind of training.

Israel has the kind of background checks we should have for gun owners.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

No, what they do is train their humans. We should have the same kind of training.

Israel has the kind of background checks we should have for gun owners.

I had background checks done on me to purchase all the weapons I own. I also had both training and background checks to get a concealed weapons permit/license in the two states I acquired one. I also had a background check done on me to get my Top Secret security clearance when I was in the Navy.

 

[randomrogue]

Apparently Israelis have taught their guns how to behave while shopping, and not jump off their backs and start killing people while out shopping, or on school trips. According to the living in fear, anti-gun nut jobs, all those children should be dead, and that shop should look like the OK Corral (Yes, I am just mocking here).

Being that I have a bunch of Israeli friends and both men and women serve time in the military I tineye'd this image. Those are soldiers. Those guns do not have magazines in them either.

Too many terrible analogies.

 

[ivwshane]

I had background checks done on me to purchase all the weapons I own. I also had both training and background checks to get a concealed weapons permit/license in the two states I acquired one. I also had a background check done on me to get my Top Secret security clearance when I was in the Navy.

Excellent, do you represent everyone?

 

[xj0hnx]

The difference between your photo of Israelis is that the women in this picture are probably serving their term in the military and have issued rifles.

Additionally they don't have magazines in the magazine wells of their weapons.

Irrelevant, the point is that their guns, like the guy in the mall's gun, didn't harm anyone, they are inanimate objects. Additionally, do you think anyone would have been any less fearful if the mall moron hadn't had a mag in his weapon?

Bystanders have no way of knowing if there are rounds in the magazine or not.

Irrelevant, the point is that their guns, like the guy in the mall's gun, didn't harm anyone, they are inanimate objects.

Here's a deal for you from a liberal..I'd be happy to change our gun laws and rights for Israel's, today.

Deal ?

It's not about our laws, or their rights. It's about irrational fear of an inanimate object.

Yes Israel is the shining example of what the US should strive to be!



What a fucking tool.

This wasn't directed to you, we already know you don't have the brain capacity to understand simply things.

 

[Munky]

Braindead leftoid: "Wow, some guy with a big, black scary gun! He must be dangerous because I don't trust him!"

 

[sigurros81]

Braindead leftoid: "Wow, some guy with a big, black scary gun! He must be dangerous because I don't trust him!"

Now you're just being an idiot and putting words into others' mouth just like several other idiots that posted in this thread. No one said he must be dangerous, just stupid. And most people reacted rationally because if I was in that JCP store, I'd be on the side of caution because most people don't NORMALLY see an attention whoring idiot walking around a department store with an AR15. I highly doubt the first thoughts of most people in that store was "oh hey, he's expressing his disapproval of Obama's gun laws."

Protip: Get your head out of your ass and try and post something that could at least demonstrate some intelligence as oppose to just posting an emotionally based comment.

 

[ivwshane]

Irrelevant, the point is that their guns, like the guy in the mall's gun, didn't harm anyone, they are inanimate objects. Additionally, do you think anyone would have been any less fearful if the mall moron hadn't had a mag in his weapon?



Irrelevant, the point is that their guns, like the guy in the mall's gun, didn't harm anyone, they are inanimate objects.



It's not about our laws, or their rights. It's about irrational fear of an inanimate object.



This wasn't directed to you, we already know you don't have the brain capacity to understand simply things.

I didn't know you were the irrational fear decider king. What other fear are people not allowed to have? Can you tell me again why carrying a gun is rational?



When talking about people's capacity to understand things you should probably keep quite


But please, continue with your ever so enlightening posts, those with a capacity to understand them find them entertaining.

 

[sigurros81]

The difference between your photo of Israelis is that the women in this picture are probably serving their term in the military and have issued rifles.

Additionally they don't have magazines in the magazine wells of their weapons.

While the JC Penny yahoo attention seeking asshat from the photographs I've seen actually did have one in his weapon. And likely he's not in the military while pulling the attention seeking stunt.

Bystanders have no way of knowing if there are rounds in the magazine or not.

As another poster stated apple to oranges. Only the disingenuous or those truly incapable of critical thinking would think those two examples are even remotely similar...

I'm sorry I must've missed the point where the U.S. is less than 100 years old shares borders with hostile nation-states who collectively have higher populations than a measly 400 million and needs military aid from an allies to help keep its borders intact.

Better watch out for those islamo-facist Canadians

No kidding, the fact that the guy can't even tell the difference between Israel and America by posting that comparison is astounding. I wonder the intelligence of people these days, or lack thereof. For starters, America don't have rocket attack drills that people have to be constantly reminded that rockets can fall on their heads at any moments from hostile neighbors. And a better example of the proximity of hostility isn't even Canada or Mexico vs. America, it's geographically smaller, like Oklahoma being on hostility alert by neighboring states.

Second, Israel has a mandatory military service for all youth, which is something I fully support if we ever adopt it in America. I think this is one of the better solutions to violence in our country, not stricter gun laws.

So to say if I was walking around Israel and see a bunch of cute teens carrying assault rifles, my rational thought would be "hey, they may be on active duty."

Again, apples and oranges, yet the idiot is so zeroed in on his narrow-mindedness that he can't even see the rational diference. :hmm:

 

[Munky]

Now you're just being an idiot and putting words into others' mouth just like several other idiots that posted in this thread. No one said he must be dangerous, just stupid. And most people reacted rationally because if I was in that JCP store, I'd be on the side of caution because most people don't NORMALLY see an attention whoring idiot walking around a department store with an AR15. I highly doubt the first thoughts of most people in that store was "oh hey, he's expressing his disapproval of Obama's gun laws."

Protip: Get your head out of your ass and try and post something that could at least demonstrate some intelligence as oppose to just posting an emotionally based comment.

Here's a protip for your dumb ass: if everyone in the store possessed a license to carry and carried a piece, no one would give two shits about someone walking around with an AR-15.

 

[xj0hnx]

I didn't know you were the irrational fear decider king. What other fear are people not allowed to have? Can you tell me again why carrying a gun is rational?

You were the one that started with the "fear" bullshit, I am just having fun mocking you.

When talking about people's capacity to understand things you should probably keep quite

Quiet, it's quiet, not quite, like I said, simple things and your mind are not friends.

 

[xj0hnx]

No kidding, the fact that the guy can't even tell the difference between Israel and America by posting that comparison is astounding. I wonder the intelligence of people these days, or lack thereof. For starters, America don't have rocket attack drills that people have to be constantly reminded that rockets can fall on their heads at any moments from hostile neighbors. And a better example of the proximity of hostility isn't even Canada or Mexico vs. America, it's geographically smaller, like Oklahoma being on hostility alert by neighboring states.

Second, Israel has a mandatory military service for all youth, which is something I fully support if we ever adopt it in America. I think this is one of the better solutions to violence in our country, not stricter gun laws.

So to say if I was walking around Israel and see a bunch of cute teens carrying assault rifles, my rational thought would be "hey, they may be on active duty."

Again, apples and oranges, yet the idiot is so zeroed in on his narrow-mindedness that he can't even see the rational diference. :hmm:

Dang, I thought you almost had it figured out, but now you are headed in the wrong direction again. I guess I gave you too much credit, won't happen again.

 

[sigurros81]

Here's a protip for your dumb ass: if everyone in the store possessed a license to carry and carried a piece, no one would give two shits about someone walking around with an AR-15.

Yeah, what fantasy world are you living in that it is the case? Haha, wow, some people.

 

[sigurros81]

Dang, I thought you almost had it figured out, but now you are headed in the wrong direction again. I guess I gave you too much credit, won't happen again.

There's nothing to get from it other than you posted a poor comparison to support your idiotic point.

 

[Munky]

Yeah, what fantasy world are you living in that it is the case? Haha, wow, some people.

Obviously not the one where Diane Feinslime and her ilk gets elected into office.

 

[ivwshane]

Yeah, what fantasy world are you living in that it is the case? Haha, wow, some people.

It appears his ideal fantasy world would be Israel.

 

[sigurros81]

Obviously not the one where Diane Feinslime and her ilk gets elected into office.

Right, good job not addressing the point. Yeah, in a world if everyone was walking around with a licensed firearm, no one would freak out about a guy with an AR15, but that's not the case with the real world isn't it?

 

[Zxian]

We have a huge amount of very large urban centers compared to most first world countries, where most of the crime occurs. We also have an enormous amount of repeat offenders, being unable to keep violent people locked up.

We actually have very low violent crime rates compared to a lot of those same first world countries. You are twice as likely to get robbed or raped in England.

If you're going to use "urban centers" as an excuse, you can't throw England into the mix. England has 12 times the population density of the States.

Violence resulting in injury or loss of property is one thing. Violence resulting in death is another. I'm talking about homicide rates, which leave the victim dead. Robbery and rape victims are alive after the act (although emotional scarring is a totally different topic). People will be violent in all places around the world, agreed. However, violent people with guns are going to have a completely different end result.

 

[ivwshane]

Obviously not the one where Diane Feinslime and her ilk gets elected into office.

Feinslime? Lol is their a "righty name calling 101" class you guys have? You guys come up with the best names!


Anyway... I suppose in your world everyone agrees with your views and in your world elected officials only represent your views and not the majority that elected them.


What other fantasies to you have?

 

[sigurros81]

If you're going to use "urban centers" as an excuse, you can't throw England into the mix. England has 12 times the population density of the States.

Violence resulting in injury or loss of property is one thing. Violence resulting in death is another. I'm talking about homicide rates, which leave the victim dead. Robbery and rape victims are alive after the act (although emotional scarring is a totally different topic). People will be violent in all places around the world, agreed. However, violent people with guns are going to have a completely different end result.

:thumbsup:

 

[ivwshane]

You were the one that started with the "fear" bullshit, I am just having fun mocking you.



Quiet, it's quiet, not quite, like I said, simple things and your mind are not friends.

Yeah!! You got me! Albeit was about grammar and not about the topic but hey you got something right for once!


So your post was to mock me? But when I replied you said it wasn't directed at me.

Which is it? Or did you just figure out how stupid you were being?

 

[sigurros81]

Yeah!! You got me! Albeit was about grammar and not about the topic but hey you got something right for once!


So your post was to mock me? But when I replied you said it wasn't directed at me.

Which is it? Or did you just figure out how stupid you were being?

Obviously he felt threatened by your rational thoughts so he had to zone in on your grammar mistake, unlike some other idiot, I won't name names, who misspell every other word in his posts, this guy goes for the word 'quiet', which anyone can honestly make the mistake when typing fast to 'quite'. But I digress...I consider myself a normal person of average intelligence, but the folks on these boards make me feel like a genius sometimes.