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Man, my high school is so screwed. (semi-rant)

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CarlKillerMiller

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So apparently, if this referendum doesn't pass, we lose every single extracurricular activity, half of the non-tenured teachers, and a bunch of other stuff. here's what irks me, though.

The proposed tax hike is going to come out to an average of FORTY DOLLARS a year. To be honest, if you can't scrape that together for the education of your next generation, then you make me sick.


And it is, almost assuredly, not going to pass.

EDIT: Here's the problem: several big corporations in the area have been going abck quite a few years and "reassessing" their taxes. They then pull the money out of the school because it's considered to be improperly paid. motorola just did this for a very large, undisclosed sum.
 
$40, or $40 per $100K assessed value?

Here in Washington, property taxes are out of control because of levy after levy that's "just $35 a year!" -- add 10 of those (and there are more than 10), and on a $300K house you're paying $1,000 a year in special levies above the base property tax. $300K is the median house value here in King County.

What you should be ranting about is: why isn't your high school being funded properly through normal / existing property taxes and other state funding, instead of a special referendum?
 
Same thing is happening in my school district.

$10 million defecit, proposed some kind of Tax proposition that got flat out denied in the polls.

So stupid too. Some board administrators went to like Costa Rica over the summer to "recruit" prospective teachers, something like $50,000 in expenses, all paid for by the district.
 
Property owners, me included, are sick and tired of levy after levy added to our tax bill. $40 here $38 there X 10 to 15 makes me cry at tax time. Let the assholes learn how to budget within the existing funds available. If they have to do away with extracurricular activities, then so be it. They aren't necessary anyway.

It isn't that we don't care, it's just that most of us only have so much $ and inflation seems to steadily beating pay increases over the long run.

Sorry for your situation, but don't blame the voters, blame the financial administrators.
 
I wouldn't write extracurriculars off as an acceptable loss. They may not seem important, but they weigh in pretty significantly alongside your grades when it comes time to apply for a REAL education. Combined with your grades and the difficulty of your schedule, they provide an accurate view of "How much stress can this kid take and still function." Or, put simpler, how well you'll function in higher education.
 
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Property owners, me included, are sick and tired of levy after levy added to our tax bill. $40 here $38 there X 10 to 15 makes me cry at tax time. Let the assholes learn how to budget within the existing funds available. If they have to do away with extracurricular activities, then so be it. They aren't necessary anyway.

It isn't that we don't care, it's just that most of us only have so much $ and inflation seems to steadily beating pay increases over the long run.

Sorry for your situation, but don't blame the voters, blame the financial administrators.
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Exactly. Rather than be pissed at the voters you should be wondering were all that money is going.
 
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
$40, or $40 per $100K assessed value?

Here in Washington, property taxes are out of control because of levy after levy that's "just $35 a year!" -- add 10 of those (and there are more than 10), and on a $300K house you're paying $1,000 a year in special levies above the base property tax. $300K is the median house value here in King County.

What you should be ranting about is: why isn't your high school being funded properly through normal / existing property taxes and other state funding, instead of a special referendum?
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:beer: Teh winnar! (and another King County resident whose mother pays an additional $1000 a year for those levies to pay for those crappy high schools). I was lucky that I went to a good high school for a blue-collar town; I just learned a few weeks ago however that the dropout rate for my old high school is somewhere around 30% - now THAT came as a shock.

On the other hand, I got a full college scholarship and money left over, not to mention a solid h.s. education from a half-broken system. Of course, in this system they're paying administrators $100k+. Start by cutting that budget, and the budget for high school sports (good god... although Kentwood H.S. was state champion for 4A a few years ago, I think). All that.

Hmm. I'm rambling now. I'll stop while I'm not too far behind. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Chraticn
The proposed tax hike is going to come out to an average of FORTY DOLLARS a year. To be honest, if you can't scrape that together for the education of your next generation, then you make me sick.

And it is, almost assuredly, not going to pass.
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I got the breakdown of my property taxes the other day.. I pay something like $1500 a year towards the school system. I find it incredibly ironic that I am 28, work my ass off, and suddenly because I can afford to buy a house, I cough up that much money for someone else's kids to go to school. Oh and the more expensive the house, the more I pay (unmarried with no dependants) towards the education system. Where's THAT logic?

Our funding system is a disaster. Maybe if the familes who have 6 kids had to pay more than I do for their kids to go to school, they'd think twice about having 6 kids.

I understand that tax is tax, but it doesn't mean I can't be bitter about it. 🙂


 
Originally posted by: episodic
Why should I pay for kids schooling I don't have. . . Only PARENTS with children should have to pay.
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Yes, America really loves it's children, they are the future, afterall. NOT. America couldn't give a flying fvck about its kids, as evidenced by the selfish selfish posts in this thread.

Amercians are dumb enough as it is. Imagine how much more f*cked your country is going to be, if there was no public funding of the school system.

 
Originally posted by: Chraticn
So apparently, if this referendum doesn't pass, we lose every single extracurricular activity, half of the non-tenured teachers, and a bunch of other stuff. here's what irks me, though.

The proposed tax hike is going to come out to an average of FORTY DOLLARS a year. To be honest, if you can't scrape that together for the education of your next generation, then you make me sick.


And it is, almost assuredly, not going to pass.
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That situation sucks.

But as you can see from the posts in this thread, your "elders" don't give a flying fuck. Don't know what to say, really.

 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: episodic
Why should I pay for kids schooling I don't have. . . Only PARENTS with children should have to pay.
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Yes, America really loves it's children, they are the future, afterall. NOT. America couldn't give a flying fvck about its kids, as evidenced by the selfish selfish posts in this thread.

Amercians are dumb enough as it is. Imagine how much more f*cked your country is going to be, if there was no public funding of the school system.
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Shhh, you might get the P&N Libertarians after joos.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: episodic
Why should I pay for kids schooling I don't have. . . Only PARENTS with children should have to pay.
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Yes, America really loves it's children, they are the future, afterall. NOT. America couldn't give a flying fvck about its kids, as evidenced by the selfish selfish posts in this thread.

Amercians are dumb enough as it is. Imagine how much more f*cked your country is going to be, if there was no public funding of the school system.
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eh? most the the United States has adequate funding from both federal and state sources, as everone is already being taxed and have done their part. what's annoying is when the city appropriates the money in stupid ways regardless of how much taxes we pay. Now, from the tone of your post, it's pretty obvious that no matter how hard we try to explain it to you, your inherent fuming anger and hatred against us as a country won't change =\
 
I don't have kids and I don't mind paying school taxes because I want kids to be educated.

However, there is no reason that schools need more money than they do today. Where I live, they are taking in about $8000 per student per year. That's plenty. A neighboring district just built a $10 million football stadium.

They have all the money they need, but they don't know how to use it wisely.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Yes, America really loves it's children, they are the future, afterall. NOT. America couldn't give a flying fvck about its kids, as evidenced by the selfish selfish posts in this thread.

Amercians are dumb enough as it is. Imagine how much more f*cked your country is going to be, if there was no public funding of the school system.
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Incorrect. We pay quite a bit in taxes, a large part of which already goes into the school system.

But that money is never enough, no matter how much we put in. School administrators are semi-competent paper pushers who bungle and waste money then come whining for more "for the kids!"

The Seattle school district here is so badly mis-managed they went $30 million over budget without realizing it.

Unfortunately, the education system attracts a mix of both the noble and the incompetent who couldn't get a real degree (so they chose teaching or administration). Often it's the incompetent who work their way into the school bureaucracy.
 
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