man loses 500 lbs...

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Legend

The real question is, how can some people deny the genetic propensity some have for obesity?

I don't deny it, I just think it's extremely rare and there's so many people today that use it as an excuse.

It's all about the processed food. Thailand used to be renowned for it's health a while ago. Since they began eating like us they've got obesity levels similar to ours. Suprise, suprise.

It is not all about the foods. That's a cheap cop out like blaming addiction on drugs or drug dealers and blaming crime on guns.

In this guy's case, he OBVIOUSLY has a genetic condition that allows him to get that big. No 130 lb geek on this board could get that big if they tried.

As for blaming foods, it's bullsh!t.

It's not the foods, it's the lifestyle. Sedentary lifestyles are relatively new, and ALL industrialized nations are facing obesity because of it.

In the US it's the worst. Obesity directly correlates with the rise in popularity and use of cable/sat TV, video games, and the Internet. It also correlates with our shift to a service oriented society where even the lower middle classes have people tending their yards, cleaning their homes and washing their cars.

And what is there to do when sitting around all day? MUNCH.

Munchies take up nearly a third of supermarket space today, when they took up maybe 1/10 just 25 years ago.

But blaming the food and those who make it is silly. Food makers are responding to what their customers want, nothing more. Customers want munchies because that's all they do all day long while sitting on their asses doing virtually nothing.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Reck
even still he's not gonna have a very long life. i wonder wtf people like that are thinking...you'd think he could have at least a little self control.

And I'd think you could be a little less ignorant or self-righteous.

 

[tami]

the 900 club

this always fascinates me.

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: scorpmatt
wow just wow

Hi, I'd just like to ask you to take a moment to fill out this **BLOOD OATH** to never use that phrase again. Thanks for your patience and understanding!

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Reck
even still he's not gonna have a very long life. i wonder wtf people like that are thinking...you'd think he could have at least a little self control.

Second page goes on to talk about how he's dieted before and lost 300 pounds, but then ran out of money for the diet supplements.

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Reck
even still he's not gonna have a very long life. i wonder wtf people like that are thinking...you'd think he could have at least a little self control.

Second page goes on to talk about how he's dieted before and lost 300 pounds, but then ran out of money for the diet supplements.

LOL, ran out of money? How much money does it take to not eat and move around little bit?

 

[Legend]

As for blaming foods, it's bullsh!t.

It's not the foods, it's the lifestyle. Sedentary lifestyles are relatively new, and ALL industrialized nations are facing obesity because of it.

In the US it's the worst. Obesity directly correlates with the rise in popularity and use of cable/sat TV, video games, and the Internet. It also correlates with our shift to a service oriented society where even the lower middle classes have people tending their yards, cleaning their homes and washing their cars.

And what is there to do when sitting around all day? MUNCH.

No, you are mistaken. Food is the primary cause by far.

Processed carbs are immediately absorbed into your body and stored as fat. This leaves you empty and you eat more.

Whole foods are released slowly into tyour body, and contain nutrients to aid digestion and general health. This keeps you full longer.

I eat all the time. I munch all the time. When I'm hungry, I eat. I never have to control or limit anything. I'm 140 lbs and 5' 9". I never get sick.

I was 120 lbs and 5 feet as a kid when I drank soda and other sh1t. I got colds and stuff all the time.

What do I eat now?

Water
Green tea
Pistachios
Walnuts
peanuts
almonds
peanut butter sandwiches on whole grain bread
brown rice, baked chicken baked beans
blueberries
strawberries
yogurt
bananas
oranges
Wild Salmon
cheerios
whole wheat speg and prego and lean beef
spinach
green peppers
white onions
red onions
organic carrots (non-organic tastes like chemicals)
brocoli

And more.

I spend most of my day studying, on the internet, playing games, watching TV. I get almost 0 cardio.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: Amused
It is not all about the foods. That's a cheap cop out like blaming addiction on drugs or drug dealers and blaming crime on guns.

In this guy's case, he OBVIOUSLY has a genetic condition that allows him to get that big. No 130 lb geek on this board could get that big if they tried.

As for blaming foods, it's bullsh!t.

It's not the foods, it's the lifestyle. Sedentary lifestyles are relatively new, and ALL industrialized nations are facing obesity because of it.

In the US it's the worst. Obesity directly correlates with the rise in popularity and use of cable/sat TV, video games, and the Internet. It also correlates with our shift to a service oriented society where even the lower middle classes have people tending their yards, cleaning their homes and washing their cars.

And what is there to do when sitting around all day? MUNCH.

Munchies take up nearly a third of supermarket space today, when they took up maybe 1/10 just 25 years ago.

But blaming the food and those who make it is silly. Food makers are responding to what their customers want, nothing more. Customers want munchies because that's all they do all day long while sitting on their asses doing virtually nothing.

So basically, when he was piling on the pounds, he should have realized this wasn't normal and fight off these cravings, but instead he had no self control.

Deuel was a fast-food junkie hooked on pizza, chips, beef jerky and chili dogs. He also gobbled down cherry blintzes and ambrosia (a creamy fruit, marshmallow and coconut concoction). Even now, his face brightens when he mentions his favorite foods.

While those days are over, Deuel hasn?t exactly adopted an aesthetic life.

He exercises with bar bells and weights, but still smokes (he?s cut down to a pack a day), saying he can?t kick two bad habits at once. And he defiantly refuses to consider any foods taboo.

?If you have a craving and don?t take care of it, it?s going to grow and grow and grow and it?s going to make you do something stupid ? binge,? he says.

He said it right there, no self control and absolutely no willpower to do anything about it. Until it got too bad, which is way too late. The bolded part just shows that his weight has taught him nothing.

 

[tami]

he DID have trouble while he was a kid though, if you read page two of the article. his mother tried to feed him healthy foods to no avail on his weight.

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: tami
he DID have trouble while he was a kid though, if you read page two of the article. his mother tried to feed him healthy foods to no avail on his weight.

Glandular or not, putt the kid on a hamster wheel with a shock collar that zaps his fat ass every time he stops.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: Amused
It is not all about the foods. That's a cheap cop out like blaming addiction on drugs or drug dealers and blaming crime on guns.

In this guy's case, he OBVIOUSLY has a genetic condition that allows him to get that big. No 130 lb geek on this board could get that big if they tried.

As for blaming foods, it's bullsh!t.

It's not the foods, it's the lifestyle. Sedentary lifestyles are relatively new, and ALL industrialized nations are facing obesity because of it.

In the US it's the worst. Obesity directly correlates with the rise in popularity and use of cable/sat TV, video games, and the Internet. It also correlates with our shift to a service oriented society where even the lower middle classes have people tending their yards, cleaning their homes and washing their cars.

And what is there to do when sitting around all day? MUNCH.

Munchies take up nearly a third of supermarket space today, when they took up maybe 1/10 just 25 years ago.

But blaming the food and those who make it is silly. Food makers are responding to what their customers want, nothing more. Customers want munchies because that's all they do all day long while sitting on their asses doing virtually nothing.

So basically, when he was piling on the pounds, he should have realized this wasn't normal and fight off these cravings, but instead he had no self control.

Deuel was a fast-food junkie hooked on pizza, chips, beef jerky and chili dogs. He also gobbled down cherry blintzes and ambrosia (a creamy fruit, marshmallow and coconut concoction). Even now, his face brightens when he mentions his favorite foods.

While those days are over, Deuel hasn?t exactly adopted an aesthetic life.

He exercises with bar bells and weights, but still smokes (he?s cut down to a pack a day), saying he can?t kick two bad habits at once. And he defiantly refuses to consider any foods taboo.

?If you have a craving and don?t take care of it, it?s going to grow and grow and grow and it?s going to make you do something stupid ? binge,? he says.

He said it right there, no self control and absolutely no willpower to do anything about it. Until it got too bad, which is way too late. The bolded part just shows that his weight has taught him nothing.

And, again, I'd like to point out that most people, no matter how much they tried to eat could never get as big as he is.

Most people have very little "self control" when it comes to food. They eat what they want, when they're hungry. This man definitely has a genetic issue that not only makes his body gain fat easily, but compels him to eat excessively.

The foods he eats are the same foods I ate through most of my 20s. I never "watched" what I ate and ate until full every time I did eat. And I never gained a lb. over 160 (I'm 6') So if I can eat the same diet, and not gain weight, and he can gain over 800 lbs there MUST be a genetic difference involved.

And all of medical science I have EVER seen agrees.

 

[MetalMat]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: Amused
It is not all about the foods. That's a cheap cop out like blaming addiction on drugs or drug dealers and blaming crime on guns.

In this guy's case, he OBVIOUSLY has a genetic condition that allows him to get that big. No 130 lb geek on this board could get that big if they tried.

As for blaming foods, it's bullsh!t.

It's not the foods, it's the lifestyle. Sedentary lifestyles are relatively new, and ALL industrialized nations are facing obesity because of it.

In the US it's the worst. Obesity directly correlates with the rise in popularity and use of cable/sat TV, video games, and the Internet. It also correlates with our shift to a service oriented society where even the lower middle classes have people tending their yards, cleaning their homes and washing their cars.

And what is there to do when sitting around all day? MUNCH.

Munchies take up nearly a third of supermarket space today, when they took up maybe 1/10 just 25 years ago.

But blaming the food and those who make it is silly. Food makers are responding to what their customers want, nothing more. Customers want munchies because that's all they do all day long while sitting on their asses doing virtually nothing.

So basically, when he was piling on the pounds, he should have realized this wasn't normal and fight off these cravings, but instead he had no self control.

Deuel was a fast-food junkie hooked on pizza, chips, beef jerky and chili dogs. He also gobbled down cherry blintzes and ambrosia (a creamy fruit, marshmallow and coconut concoction). Even now, his face brightens when he mentions his favorite foods.

While those days are over, Deuel hasn?t exactly adopted an aesthetic life.

He exercises with bar bells and weights, but still smokes (he?s cut down to a pack a day), saying he can?t kick two bad habits at once. And he defiantly refuses to consider any foods taboo.

?If you have a craving and don?t take care of it, it?s going to grow and grow and grow and it?s going to make you do something stupid ? binge,? he says.

He said it right there, no self control and absolutely no willpower to do anything about it. Until it got too bad, which is way too late. The bolded part just shows that his weight has taught him nothing.

And, again, I'd like to point out that most people, no matter how much they tried to eat could never get as big as he is.

Most people have very little "self control" when it comes to food. They eat what they want, when they're hungry. This man definitely has a genetic issue that not only makes his body gain fat easily, but compels him to eat excessively.

The foods he eats are the same foods I ate through most of my 20s. I never "watched" what I ate and ate until full every time I did eat. And I never gained a lb. over 160 (I'm 6') So if I can eat the same diet, and not gain weight, and he can gain over 800 lbs there MUST be a genetic difference involved.

And all of medical science I have EVER seen agrees.

I can gurantee this dude ate more than you.

 

[funboy6942]

I really should get my fat ass over to get this done before I turn into that guy.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: 733SHiFTY
"Excuse me sir, you cant park your van on the diving board... OH wait, its just a fat kid!"

I laughed

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Legend

As for blaming foods, it's bullsh!t.

It's not the foods, it's the lifestyle. Sedentary lifestyles are relatively new, and ALL industrialized nations are facing obesity because of it.

In the US it's the worst. Obesity directly correlates with the rise in popularity and use of cable/sat TV, video games, and the Internet. It also correlates with our shift to a service oriented society where even the lower middle classes have people tending their yards, cleaning their homes and washing their cars.

And what is there to do when sitting around all day? MUNCH.

No, you are mistaken. Food is the primary cause by far.

Processed carbs are immediately absorbed into your body and stored as fat. This leaves you empty and you eat more.

Whole foods are released slowly into tyour body, and contain nutrients to aid digestion and general health. This keeps you full longer.

I eat all the time. I munch all the time. When I'm hungry, I eat. I never have to control or limit anything. I'm 140 lbs and 5' 9". I never get sick.

I was 120 lbs and 5 feet as a kid when I drank soda and other sh1t. I got colds and stuff all the time.

What do I eat now?

Water
Green tea
Pistachios
Walnuts
peanuts
almonds
peanut butter sandwiches on whole grain bread
brown rice, baked chicken baked beans
blueberries
strawberries
yogurt
bananas
oranges
Wild Salmon
cheerios
whole wheat speg and prego and lean beef
spinach
green peppers
white onions
red onions
organic carrots (non-organic tastes like chemicals)
brocoli

And more.

I spend most of my day studying, on the internet, playing games, watching TV. I get almost 0 cardio.

Sorry, but the processed carbs you speak of pre-date the obesity epidemic by more than two generations. No correlation means no causation.

As for not gaining weight, hell, I spent most of my 20s doing very little physical activity and eating anything I wanted and I never topped 160.

Some people are genetically able to eat like horses and gain little to no weight. Others are not. Anecdotal stores are useless.

The fact that you have not gained weight means you aren't munching on high calorie foods while you sit around. Good for you. Remember, I said MUNCHING was a major side effect to our sedentary lifestyles.

In a way, we agree to a point. The high calorie munchies I speak of are much the same foods you speak of. Only I blame people for not moving and munching, and you blame the foods as if people had no control over their lives.

You can't munch if you're moving. It's that simple.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: MetalMat

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: Amused
It is not all about the foods. That's a cheap cop out like blaming addiction on drugs or drug dealers and blaming crime on guns.

In this guy's case, he OBVIOUSLY has a genetic condition that allows him to get that big. No 130 lb geek on this board could get that big if they tried.

As for blaming foods, it's bullsh!t.

It's not the foods, it's the lifestyle. Sedentary lifestyles are relatively new, and ALL industrialized nations are facing obesity because of it.

In the US it's the worst. Obesity directly correlates with the rise in popularity and use of cable/sat TV, video games, and the Internet. It also correlates with our shift to a service oriented society where even the lower middle classes have people tending their yards, cleaning their homes and washing their cars.

And what is there to do when sitting around all day? MUNCH.

Munchies take up nearly a third of supermarket space today, when they took up maybe 1/10 just 25 years ago.

But blaming the food and those who make it is silly. Food makers are responding to what their customers want, nothing more. Customers want munchies because that's all they do all day long while sitting on their asses doing virtually nothing.

So basically, when he was piling on the pounds, he should have realized this wasn't normal and fight off these cravings, but instead he had no self control.

Deuel was a fast-food junkie hooked on pizza, chips, beef jerky and chili dogs. He also gobbled down cherry blintzes and ambrosia (a creamy fruit, marshmallow and coconut concoction). Even now, his face brightens when he mentions his favorite foods.

While those days are over, Deuel hasn?t exactly adopted an aesthetic life.

He exercises with bar bells and weights, but still smokes (he?s cut down to a pack a day), saying he can?t kick two bad habits at once. And he defiantly refuses to consider any foods taboo.

?If you have a craving and don?t take care of it, it?s going to grow and grow and grow and it?s going to make you do something stupid ? binge,? he says.

He said it right there, no self control and absolutely no willpower to do anything about it. Until it got too bad, which is way too late. The bolded part just shows that his weight has taught him nothing.

And, again, I'd like to point out that most people, no matter how much they tried to eat could never get as big as he is.

Most people have very little "self control" when it comes to food. They eat what they want, when they're hungry. This man definitely has a genetic issue that not only makes his body gain fat easily, but compels him to eat excessively.

The foods he eats are the same foods I ate through most of my 20s. I never "watched" what I ate and ate until full every time I did eat. And I never gained a lb. over 160 (I'm 6') So if I can eat the same diet, and not gain weight, and he can gain over 800 lbs there MUST be a genetic difference involved.

And all of medical science I have EVER seen agrees.

I can gurantee this dude ate more than you.

Yes, he did. He probably ate past the point that would have made me physically ill. WHY? HOW? How is his body telling him to eat so much? How is it allowing him to eat so much? Why is it compeling him to eat so much when mine is not?

If I had no self control over my food throughout the first half of my life (and I didn't control it one bit) and gained no weight, but he lived the same way and did gain weight, ther HAS to be a genetic difference. And there is.

 

[SeminoleMarine]

Originally posted by: Amused


The real question is, how can some people deny the genetic propensity some have for obesity?

Does anyone here think the average 130 lb teenager could EVER get this big?

Unfortunatly, some of the more ignorant among us do.

>>>Deuel was a fast-food junkie hooked on pizza, chips, beef jerky and chili dogs. He also gobbled down cherry blintzes and ambrosia (a creamy fruit, marshmallow and coconut concoction). Even now, his face brightens when he mentions his favorite foods.

About twice a month, Deuel indulges in foods most dieters would consider off-limits: a small piece of chocolate, an ice cream bar, Taco John?s nachos on his van ride home from visiting his doctor in South Dakota.<<<

Sounds "genetic" to me. ***sarcasm off***

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: SeminoleMarine

Originally posted by: Amused


The real question is, how can some people deny the genetic propensity some have for obesity?

Does anyone here think the average 130 lb teenager could EVER get this big?

Unfortunatly, some of the more ignorant among us do.

>>>Deuel was a fast-food junkie hooked on pizza, chips, beef jerky and chili dogs. He also gobbled down cherry blintzes and ambrosia (a creamy fruit, marshmallow and coconut concoction). Even now, his face brightens when he mentions his favorite foods.

About twice a month, Deuel indulges in foods most dieters would consider off-limits: a small piece of chocolate, an ice cream bar, Taco John?s nachos on his van ride home from visiting his doctor in South Dakota.<<<

Sounds "genetic" to me. ***sarcasm off***

Read my other posts to see how ignorant your answer is.

 

[Legend]

Sorry, but the processed carbs you speak of pre-date the obesity epidemic by more than two generations. No correlation means no causation.

I don't recall people drinking liters of soda and juice in the past. Or white bread in the 1800s (or many dry snack foods we know today). Back then they drank water, coffee, tea, and milk from what I remember.

It is the food. Processed carbs were not around in such quanitities in the past.

It's not just anecdotal evidence. It's basic biology. When white bread or processed sugar goes into your body, it is quickly converted into body fat. More specifically, it is instantly put into your bloodstream as glucose. Leftover glucose is converted to your liver into glycogen for energy storage in your muscles. If your capacity for glycogen is maxed, the glycogen is converted into triglycerides (yes, in fact high carb low fat diets increase the fat in your bloodstream). The triglycerides are stored as body fat.

When whole grains go into your body, it is slowly released and you're cells use the energy on the fly. There is no need to store triglycerides because the energy is released at a rate slow enough that you don't have excess.



Now let's look at your idea of a solution to the obesity epidemic. IMO it is insanely flawed.

You're apparent solution to this problem is to become more active while not considering diet. What people do when eat processed carbs is they quickly convert their food to body fat and become hungry. To maintain their weight, they have to live while being hungry, or doing cardio exercise to balance it. This isn't about snacking. I'm talking about an everyday diet in regular portions. The side effects of this plan is to have to work yourself constantly and feel like crap.

My solution is for people to stop body fat from ever being created. And this is done by eating whole foods. Side effects may include increased energy, increased lifespan, decreased cholesterol, increased intelligence and a sense of wellbeing.

Only I blame people for not moving and munching, and you blame the foods as if people had no control over their lives.

Well, I indirectly blame the food. I blame the people for choosing to eat that food. But I don't blame them too much. Every day they are bombarded with propaganda from food companies telling them what to eat. Even the health food is BS. Orange juice is not healthy because it lacks the fiber of whole fruit and is converted to body fat like other processed carbs. Oranges do contain fiber and the energy is released more slowly. Subway sandwiches are loaded with sodium, it is not healthy.

I agree that some people can tolerate processed foods and other's cannot. But the majority can eat like me a lose weight and maintain it.

Edit: And I do snack on high calorie foods. Like nuts. I eat chicken sandwiches and speghetti. But again, this isn't shoved violenty into your bloodstream immediately. It is digested slowly.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Legend

Sorry, but the processed carbs you speak of pre-date the obesity epidemic by more than two generations. No correlation means no causation.

I don't recall people drinking liters of soda and juice in the past. Or white bread in the 1800s (or many dry snack foods we know today). Back then they drank water, coffee, tea, and milk from what I remember.

It is the food. Processed carbs were not around in such quanitities in the past.

It's not just anecdotal evidence. It's basic biology. When white bread or processed sugar goes into your body, it is quickly converted into body fat. More specifically, it is instantly put into your bloodstream as glucose. Leftover glucose is converted to your liver into glycogen for energy storage in your muscles. If your capacity for glycogen is maxed, the glycogen is converted into triglycerides (yes, in fact high carb low fat diets increase the fat in your bloodstream). The triglycerides are stored as body fat.

When whole grains go into your body, it is slowly released and you're cells use the energy on the fly. There is no need to store triglycerides because the energy is released at a rate slow enough that you don't have excess.



Now let's look at your idea of a solution to the obesity epidemic. IMO it is insanely flawed.

You're apparent solution to this problem is to become more active while not considering diet. What people do when eat processed carbs is they quickly convert their food to body fat and become hungry. To maintain their weight, they have to live while being hungry, or doing cardio exercise to balance it. This isn't about snacking. I'm talking about an everyday diet in regular portions. The side effects of this plan is to have to work yourself constantly and feel like crap.

My solution is for people to stop body fat from ever being created. And this is done by eating whole foods. Side effects may include increased energy, increased lifespan, decreased cholesterol, increased intelligence and a sense of wellbeing.

Only I blame people for not moving and munching, and you blame the foods as if people had no control over their lives.

Well, I indirectly blame the food. I blame the people for choosing to eat that food. But I don't blame them too much. Every day they are bombarded with propaganda from food companies telling them what to eat. Even the health food is BS. Orange juice is not healthy because it lacks the fiber of whole fruit and is converted to body fat like other processed carbs. Oranges do contain fiber and the energy is released more slowly. Subway sandwiches are loaded with sodium, it is not healthy.

I agree that some people can tolerate processed foods and other's cannot. But the majority can eat like me a lose weight and maintain it.

Edit: And I do snack on high calorie foods. Like nuts. I eat chicken sandwiches and speghetti. But again, this isn't shoved violenty into your bloodstream immediately. It is digested slowly.

White bread, processed carbs, and sugars predate the obesity epidemic by at least 2 generations. The obesity epidemic started weakly in the mid 80s. It grew by leaps and bounds in the 90s.

When I grew up in the 70s we had white bread, processed carbs and sugars. So did people who grew up in the 50s and 60s. In fact, wheat bread was pretty rare when I grew up and "whole grain" breads were virtually unheard of.

High energy, high carb foods have been around for decades. The obesity epidemic is NEW. The foods are not.

The MAIN change has been our lifestyles. High energy, fast metabolizing foods were a GOOD thing when we were active. When we were active, we also MUNCHED less of those processed foods.

YES, if our lifestyles changed to pre-1980 ways, and foods didn't change at all the obesity epidemic would end. People would be more active, and would have less chance and time to munch.

I agree, one must either change their activity level, or eating habits. In my opinion, activity levels are FAR easier to change. Eating is a base instinct and telling someone not to eat is about as effective as telling them not to breathe. Our bodies CRAVE high energy foods because that's what they were evolved to crave in a time when we needed them to survive.

Blaming marketing is bullsh!t. Blaming food is bullsh!t. Food makers merely produce and market what sells. That is their SOLE responsibility. It is up to the individual to choose what foods suit their needs best, and to get exercise.

Want to save your kids from obesity if they are predisposed to it? Cancel the broadband account, the cable/sat TV and most of all, get rid of all the video games. Buy them a bike, a skateboard, have them join a sports team. Start them on an active lifestyle early.

BTW, I still take in high energy foods and sugars. But I do so when I need the energy, such as pre/post-workout and pre-sports. There IS a time and place for high energy, processed carbs. It's just a shame that those are what our body crave even when we're not active.

 

[mobobuff]

I just love some of the subtle humor MSNBC writers like to throw in.

A photo taken last June shows a pneumatic-like figure sprawled helplessly on his stomach looking like an inflated balloon.

... he still looks like a plus-sized Buddha...

He pumps a fleshy arm in triumph. He hasn?t been south of 500 in two decades.

More power to this guy, he seems to be a nice fellow, and he's doing something about his problem.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: Brassman
:Q

 

[Legend]

BTW, I still take in high energy foods and sugars. But I do so when I need the energy, such as pre/post-workout and pre-sports. There IS a time and place for high energy, processed carbs. It's just a shame that those are what our body crave even when we're not active.

I'm understanding more where your coming from.

But also keep in mind that the processed carbs were not eaten as much in say the 50s. There were no 36+ oz drinks or large fries. European fast food is like it was back then.

And just so you know the reason why you crave the high energy carbs is because you eat them. It's not an innate craving, it's an addiction. What happens over time with those bursts of energy is your body makes more insulin. Insulin is what binds to glucose to deliver it to your cells. Anyway, so your body makes more of this in response to all the glucose so it can use it. Despite your body's efforts, this doesn't do any good because your cells and muscles stock up immediately and the glucose is converted into fat. This can even lead to insulin resistance which increases fat production even more. After all that glucose is converted to fat and your cells use their existing carbs, you crave more.

I used to crave those foods too. About 8 months ago I started eating like I am no. I no longer crave soda, candy, ice cream or anything like that.

The only exception is pizza. I still like that, but I know that I feel like sh1t after eating it so I don't. Everyone should do this. Unless you're eating turkey or milk, you shouldnt' feel tired after eating. That means the foods you ate suck.

 

[notfred]

At least the guy is honest about his problem:

My willpower is basically zero.

 

[delroy]

gastric bypass surgery is a rough process, but it will deffinatly save the life of someone in his condition. Any type of eating disorder is entirely psychological.