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Man jailed for putting puppy in warm oven

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Originally posted by: bobdelt
its a dog...!! most of you dont get this upset when this stuff happens to people... If it happened to a cow most of you would have gone to get some ketchup, i know i would have
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I think we'd be plenty upset if this someone had thrown a child into a 200 degree oven for five minutes, you dink. I'm getting tired of morons jumping into animal abuse threads and whining how we love animals and hate humans because we show a little sympathy to a tortured dog. Go troll elsewhere, you damn fool.
 
Originally posted by: karlchad
i love hot dogs!
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The 1st worthwhile post in the entire thread! Kudos!

To everyone else: while I do not agree with this guy's choices, saying he should get "put in a hot oven" or a decade of prison is a little extreme. (And for the record, I think advocating placing him in a hot over is EXTREMELY offensive. Anyone remember the Holocaust?)

It is a dog. It is not a human being. There IS a difference. I don't understand how so many people are quick to cry about a mistreated dog but will look the other way when they see a homeless veteran on the streets. They cry over a dog but have no problem with abortion. The ultimate irony: they are so offended by this man's cruelty to an animal that they advocate VIOLENCE against the perpetrator. This country/world is screwed up.

/soapbox
 
Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: karlchad
i love hot dogs!
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The 1st worthwhile post in the entire thread! Kudos!

To everyone else: while I do not agree with this guy's choices, saying he should get "put in a hot oven" or a decade of prison is a little extreme. (And for the record, I think advocating placing him in a hot over is EXTREMELY offensive. Anyone remember the Holocaust?)

It is a dog. It is not a human being. There IS a difference. I don't understand how so many people are quick to cry about a mistreated dog but will look the other way when they see a homeless veteran on the streets. They cry over a dog but have no problem with abortion. The ultimate irony: they are so offended by this man's cruelty to an animal that they advocate VIOLENCE against the perpetrator. This country/world is screwed up.

/soapbox
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Well if he is such an asshole with the dog, how do you think he treats (or will treat) humans? An asshole is still an asshole. So, while I agree decade in prison in unreasonable hot stove is not. A punishment should fit the crime IMO.
 
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: karlchad
i love hot dogs!
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The 1st worthwhile post in the entire thread! Kudos!

To everyone else: while I do not agree with this guy's choices, saying he should get "put in a hot oven" or a decade of prison is a little extreme. (And for the record, I think advocating placing him in a hot over is EXTREMELY offensive. Anyone remember the Holocaust?)

It is a dog. It is not a human being. There IS a difference. I don't understand how so many people are quick to cry about a mistreated dog but will look the other way when they see a homeless veteran on the streets. They cry over a dog but have no problem with abortion. The ultimate irony: they are so offended by this man's cruelty to an animal that they advocate VIOLENCE against the perpetrator. This country/world is screwed up.

/soapbox
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Well if he is such an asshole with the dog, how do you think he treats (or will treat) humans? An asshole is still an asshole. So, while I agree decade in prison in unreasonable hot stove is not. A punishment should fit the crime IMO.
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and you contradicted yourself.

a dog is not a human being therefore the punishment of putting the man in prison would NOT fit the crime.
 
Originally posted by: randay
The black Chihuahua mix named Henry suffered permanent damage to its front paws and now limps.
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I could make a joke... must... resist....
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why because he is hung better than you?

Anyway...this guy obviously has problems that he must deal them too the defenseless.

He has already partially blinded the dog, and put unknown anguish into them.

I don't understand how people can be cruel to any living thing. I am not a vegan or anything like that, still just because I can or may eat something doesn't mean it's right for me to trick them or torture them.

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www.10thlife.org
 
I think he should've gotten more. I don't care if its a dog or a human, if anyone is that creul to a living thing, they should pay.
 
Originally posted by: bobdelt
its a dog...!! most of you dont get this upset when this stuff happens to people... If it happened to a cow most of you would have gone to get some ketchup, i know i would have
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Dude you are the false argument everyone tries to throw at people that think animals don't deserve to be treated cruely. Most will be willing to eat them.

Also most would be freaking off the chain if someone that blinded a child, then stuck it in an oven at 200 degs walked after 6 months.

Thanks for playing Asshat. YOU TEH WINNAR!
 
Originally posted by: altonb1

The 1st worthwhile post in the entire thread! Kudos!

To everyone else: while I do not agree with this guy's choices, saying he should get "put in a hot oven" or a decade of prison is a little extreme. (And for the record, I think advocating placing him in a hot over is EXTREMELY offensive. Anyone remember the Holocaust?)

It is a dog. It is not a human being. There IS a difference. I don't understand how so many people are quick to cry about a mistreated dog but will look the other way when they see a homeless veteran on the streets. They cry over a dog but have no problem with abortion. The ultimate irony: they are so offended by this man's cruelty to an animal that they advocate VIOLENCE against the perpetrator. This country/world is screwed up.

/soapbox
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man you are all over the place. I don't think anyone is happy to see a homeless veteran on the street, but at the same time just being a veteran doesn't buy you anything. Many chose to serve to avoid the streets in the first place.

Now put a war hero on the street...I somehow think he is going to get some help.

A dog is alive...there is a lot of debate on abortion...what trimester are you talking about? You argument is totally ignorant.

IMHO the only way to deal with cruelity is to deal it out. Those that are cruel know their punishment will be easy compared to the 'justice' they gave due to passive and bleeding hearts.

I used to fight a lot as a kid...I didn't want to, somehow because whatever chick, car, opinion, or book I was reading someone wanted to make an example of me. I was a nerd...didn't have sex until 17/18 because I avoided girls in a way until then. I was into weightlifting, wrestling, football, and martial arts since 15 for most of those. I didn't lose many fights...but after each fight I'd feel bad for the other person...no one wants an as_beating still everyone needs to think of the consequences of bringing hurt to someone else.

Those that torture the defenseless whether they be animal or human have deeply seated issues that could cause major harm to the average person.

Å
 
I'm not sure why this is illegal. Hear me out.

People cook crab and lobster by dropping it in boiling water while it's still alive. It seems to me that the fact that it's easier to relate to the suffering of a puppy instead of a crab or lobster is the main reason why this person was punished and that's not a very good legal basis. Just because something is cute and cuddly doesn't imbue it with extra rights.
 
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
I'm not sure why this is illegal. Hear me out.

People cook crab and lobster by dropping it in boiling water while it's still alive. It seems to me that the fact that it's easier to relate to the suffering of a puppy instead of a crab or lobster is the main reason why this person was punished and that's not a very good legal basis. Just because something is cute and cuddly doesn't imbue it with extra rights.
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A dog has much higher brain functions than a lobster.

Originally posted by: altonb1
They cry over a dog but have no problem with abortion.
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Those two are totally unrelated.
 
If only people were so outraged about rapists going free after a few months in jail. One of the only good things Bill O Riely does is expose judges that are soft on bad crimes (rape, sexual assault, etc).

NOT saying animal cruelty is ok just saying if more celebrities (PETA) cared about more important issues than if the NBA uses real leather from already dead cows or synthetics then maybe people could find out about some really important issues.
 
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
I'm not sure why this is illegal. Hear me out.

People cook crab and lobster by dropping it in boiling water while it's still alive. It seems to me that the fact that it's easier to relate to the suffering of a puppy instead of a crab or lobster is the main reason why this person was punished and that's not a very good legal basis. Just because something is cute and cuddly doesn't imbue it with extra rights.
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You got it wrong. The laws are in place to prevent UNNESESARY suffering.
 
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: TheAdvocate
How do people do these kinds of things? How absolutely fvcked in the head can you be?
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Unfortunately the average person has about this much consideration for animals... and, truth be told, humans other than him/herself. What's funny is these are generally the "people" most adamantly in disagreement with evolution theory and the fact we're animals.
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I'm 100% sure that you every statement you made in this post is completely wrong. It is sad that you seem to have no faith in the goodness of other people.
 
Originally posted by: thepd7
If only people were so outraged about rapists going free after a few months in jail. One of the only good things Bill O Riely does is expose judges that are soft on bad crimes (rape, sexual assault, etc).

NOT saying animal cruelty is ok just saying if more celebrities (PETA) cared about more important issues than if the NBA uses real leather from already dead cows or synthetics then maybe people could find out about some really important issues.
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Why don't you post a thread about a rapist going free after a few months and let see the reaction you will get from people here.
 
Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: karlchad
i love hot dogs!
Click to expand...

The 1st worthwhile post in the entire thread! Kudos!

To everyone else: while I do not agree with this guy's choices, saying he should get "put in a hot oven" or a decade of prison is a little extreme. (And for the record, I think advocating placing him in a hot over is EXTREMELY offensive. Anyone remember the Holocaust?)

It is a dog. It is not a human being. There IS a difference. I don't understand how so many people are quick to cry about a mistreated dog but will look the other way when they see a homeless veteran on the streets. They cry over a dog but have no problem with abortion. The ultimate irony: they are so offended by this man's cruelty to an animal that they advocate VIOLENCE against the perpetrator. This country/world is screwed up.

/soapbox
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Not to threadcrap, but to compare torture to abortion is differen't. A sentient, loving dog just got tortured slowly.

Now let's not get into an abortion argument about post 2nd trimester and all that, the point is, this guy hurt a defenseless, living, loving puppy.

Besides, maybe I like puppies more than humans because they're not as cruel as humans are. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
I'm not sure why this is illegal. Hear me out.

People cook crab and lobster by dropping it in boiling water while it's still alive. It seems to me that the fact that it's easier to relate to the suffering of a puppy instead of a crab or lobster is the main reason why this person was punished and that's not a very good legal basis. Just because something is cute and cuddly doesn't imbue it with extra rights.
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Yeah, because putting the puppy in a 200 degree F oven for five minutes gave it the same quick death that placing a lobster in boiling water gives. Oh wait, no it didn't. :disgust:
 
Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
I'm not sure why this is illegal. Hear me out.

People cook crab and lobster by dropping it in boiling water while it's still alive. It seems to me that the fact that it's easier to relate to the suffering of a puppy instead of a crab or lobster is the main reason why this person was punished and that's not a very good legal basis. Just because something is cute and cuddly doesn't imbue it with extra rights.
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Yeah, because putting the puppy in a 200 degree F oven for five minutes gave it the same quick death that placing a lobster in boiling water gives. Oh wait, no it didn't. :disgust:
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My point was that it wasn't a quick death. Lobsters flop around in the water for several minutes before they stop moving, presumably they are dead at that point but they could be paralyzed and still alive.

I'm not saying that one excuses the other, I don't prepare lobster or crab in that fashion. My point was that people do and it certainly isn't illegal. I guess I was trying to point out that we are cruel to animals every day and dogs (and cats) shouldn't get special treatment.
 
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
I'm not sure why this is illegal. Hear me out.

People cook crab and lobster by dropping it in boiling water while it's still alive. It seems to me that the fact that it's easier to relate to the suffering of a puppy instead of a crab or lobster is the main reason why this person was punished and that's not a very good legal basis. Just because something is cute and cuddly doesn't imbue it with extra rights.
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Yeah, because putting the puppy in a 200 degree F oven for five minutes gave it the same quick death that placing a lobster in boiling water gives. Oh wait, no it didn't. :disgust:
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My point was that it wasn't a quick death. Lobsters flop around in the water for several minutes before they stop moving, presumably they are dead at that point but they could be paralyzed and still alive.

I'm not saying that one excuses the other, I don't prepare lobster or crab in that fashion. My point was that people do and it certainly isn't illegal. I guess I was trying to point out that we are cruel to animals every day and dogs (and cats) shouldn't get special treatment.
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Several minutes? How long do they boil the lobster?

There is a pretty big different from a lobster and even a higher level bird or most mammals.


 
how did he damage the eye of a dog with a leaf blowser? did he put the nozzle right up to the dog and turn it on? this guy is sick.
 
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