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InflatableBuddha
Diamond Member
What about that tribe in Mexico that runs 300km at a stretch on little more than sandals? There was an article posted in the barefoot running thread I think.
InflatableBuddha
Diamond Member
:thumbsup: Totally agree.
I have been active my entire life, playing recreational soccer, street hockey, and biking when I was a child, and running since I was a teenager. I have never been even slightly overweight. However, like most North Americans, I have also spent a lot of time sitting down at a computer, in front of the TV, and in cars.
Despite my willpower, stretching, strength and conditioning, I have my limits, as do others. If I were biomechanically perfect, I would run 250km every week and love it. I accept that I cannot do anywhere close to that or I will injure myself. However, I'm still trying to get as close to the "line" as possible without going over and injuring myself. I have a pretty good idea now where it is for me.
I can only imagine how difficult it is for overweight adults to change to an active lifestyle, and all the perils they face in that pursuit.
For people (Kenyans for example) who grew up in simpler societies and ran everywhere for transportation, ate healthier diets, were exposed to fewer toxins, etc., I think it's quite plausible they would be better adapted to distance running.
Runners absolutely are terrible at easing off when they need to. It's a tough lesson to learn.
Megatomic
Lifer
I can address that point. In 2005 I was almost 300 pounds of computer geek. By spring of 2008 I was a skinny fat 162 pounder who divorced his computer geek lifestyle.
In the spring of 2009 I was 180 pounds and a bonafide runner. It was a horrible roller coaster of a ride from 2005 to 2009. I do not want to ever go through that again, so I'm going to maintain my active lifestyle and continue to eat properly. There were so many days that I hurt and felt tired and weak and was completely depressed.
I'm so glad that's all behind me now. Life's great when you look and feel good.
InflatableBuddha
Diamond Member
Wow...I had no idea. You look very fit in your pics. Congrats; that is truly inspirational :thumbsup:.
Keep on running!
InflatableBuddha
Diamond Member
Megatomic
Lifer
Me a fat computer geek at about 285 in the summer of 2005.
Me skinny fat in July of 2007.
Me a runner (finally) at The Medved Madness Trail Run in May of 2009
I'm still sculpting my physique, I'm no where near done yet.
InflatableBuddha
Diamond Member
Good luck to you Bateluer, but you're taking on a hell of a lot.
I ran my first marathon exactly one month ago, and I was in pretty good shape. I didn't stop hurting for a full week. Since then, I ran an easy week and I'm only 2 weeks into building up mileage again, never mind speed work.
No freaking way would I be able to pull off a marathon only 3 weeks after a 50k race. And then a month later you want to run 3 marathons and a half marathon in a one month span? :Q
I would seriously reconsider. Even the most elite marathoners, who train 140 miles per week at their peak, do not take on a race schedule like this, and with good reason.
InflatableBuddha
Diamond Member
:thumbsup: Well done!
While I still don't agree with doing that many distance events in such a short time, there is a big difference between hammering out 26.2 miles at your absolute top-end, and just doing them to finish. Elites completely wipe themselves out at every race, so they need to recover. If Bateleur is only jogging them to finish, he could very well be able to complete them. Still not smart, but possible.
Capt Caveman
Lifer
Good luck OP!!! Ignore SC.
Have you read and followed Dean Karnazes? I highly recommend reading his books Ultramarathon Man and 50/50: Secrets I Learned Running 50 Marathons in 50 Days -- and How You Too Can Achieve Super Endurance. That's right, Dean Karnazes ran 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days, finishing his last marathon by running the NYC marathon in 3:30.
The guy used to be an everyday guy. Now, he'll go for a 50 mile run bringing a cell phone and credit card. He'll call and have a large pizza delivered on his route and he'll eat the pizza as he runs. He's run 200 mile relay races solo and has even completed a 350 mile run.
Have you read and followed Dean Karnazes? I highly recommend reading his books Ultramarathon Man and 50/50: Secrets I Learned Running 50 Marathons in 50 Days -- and How You Too Can Achieve Super Endurance. That's right, Dean Karnazes ran 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days, finishing his last marathon by running the NYC marathon in 3:30.
The guy used to be an everyday guy. Now, he'll go for a 50 mile run bringing a cell phone and credit card. He'll call and have a large pizza delivered on his route and he'll eat the pizza as he runs. He's run 200 mile relay races solo and has even completed a 350 mile run.
InflatableBuddha
Diamond Member
That's a good point. I was just assuming he would be racing these events balls-out. If he's only jogging them, it's possible, though still difficult.
Terry Fox averaged 23 miles a day for 143 days when he ran his Marathon of Hope. That's almost a marathon each day, although he certainly was going at a slower, steady pace and not trying to set a PR every day.
StageLeft
No Lifer
Impressive. It looks like you kept some leg muscle, too. Also, you dodged a bullet with the belly; it's not loose as I'd expect with such a significant amount of weight loss!
There are, surprisingly, people who can run a marathon a day for many days on end. Dean Karnazes, attention whore extraordinaire, did it recently but was not the first. I guess elite runners don't do it (and you're right, they certainly don't) because it will inhibit optimal racing, so the world's best marathoners will not run that many in a given year. For ultra runners who are more interested in simply distance than speed over a marathon, though, I suspect there are hundreds if not a few thousand in the US who can and do run distances like this. They are a really small minority, though. Good joints, lean like a rake, and excellent biomechanics. Bateluer won't be racing these races but doing them; running at full tilt in a marathon a couple times/month would burn out anybody, elite or not.
I imagine most runners don't even know who he is, but he did that with one leg. I think his running was far more impressive than Dean Karnazes'. I did like ultramarathon man, though. A very good read. I read pam reid's book and it was much less interesting. I read bannister's book (or whoever wrote it) on him breaking the mile and it was a very solid read, too.
RagingBITCH
Lifer
Wow Jeff! That's an awesome transformation! Good job for doing it and keeping it off!
/threadjack
InflatableBuddha
Diamond Member
Impressive. It looks like you kept some leg muscle, too. Also, you dodged a bullet with the belly; it's not loose as I'd expect with such a significant amount of weight loss!
There are, surprisingly, people who can run a marathon a day for many days on end. Dean Karnazes, attention whore extraordinaire, did it recently but was not the first. I guess elite runners don't do it (and you're right, they certainly don't) because it will inhibit optimal racing, so the world's best marathoners will not run that many in a given year. For ultra runners who are more interested in simply distance than speed over a marathon, though, I suspect there are hundreds if not a few thousand in the US who can and do run distances like this. They are a really small minority, though. Good joints, lean like a rake, and excellent biomechanics. Bateluer won't be racing these races but doing them; running at full tilt in a marathon a couple times/month would burn out anybody, elite or not.
I imagine most runners don't even know who he is, but he did that with one leg. I think his running was far more impressive than Dean Karnazes'. I did like ultramarathon man, though. A very good read. I read pam reid's book and it was much less interesting. I read bannister's book (or whoever wrote it) on him breaking the mile and it was a very solid read, too.
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Yea, no doubt Terry Fox did some impressive running on only one good leg and with cancer metastisizing in his lungs.
I guess I assumed "racing" since Bateluer didn't specifically say in the OP that he was just planning to "complete" the events, and not race them.
There are multiple books on Bannister - I've read The Perfect Mile, which also discusses Wes Santee and John Landy. Pretty good read. I also have an original edition of Bannister's autobiographical account of breaking the 4-minute mile (published in 1955). Found it on eBay for $10 ha. That's an even better book. Which one did you read?
Ultramarathon Man is on my ever-growing list of books to read. *Sigh* I will get to it eventually.
There are anomalies within any species/population. Humans were a migratory species, but did not rely on long distance running to survive.
http://www.geotimes.org/jan08/...feature_evolution.html
Edit: I'm not saying that the OP is making a horrible decision or anything, but for the vast majority of people that many miles in that short of time would likely end up hurting themselves. Hopefully the OP is an anomaly 🙂
StageLeft
No Lifer
The Perfect Mile is the one I read. I joined paperbackswap and have in the mail coming some book on some highschool kid breaking 4 minutes or something.
Ultramarathon man is the shortest read I've ever done because I literally had a hard time putting it down.
Ultramarathon man is the shortest read I've ever done because I literally had a hard time putting it down.
We get it. Make a thread about how much stuff you'll do and then be too cool to follow it, even though it's only three days old (and you even posted to it earlier today). Uber-sweet!
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