Man, its going to be fun 2010

[Bateluer]

10 Oct - Cactus ChaCha - 7Mi
23<?> Oct - GoDaddy Half-Marathon - 13.1Mi
14 Nov - Just Another Mad Dog - 50K
26 Nov - ARR Thanksgiving Day Classic - 10Mi
6 Dec - Las Vegas Rock and Roll Marathon - 26.2Mi
20 Dec - ARR Desert Classic 30K - 30K
9 Jan - Walt Disney Half Marathon - 13.1Mi
10 Jan - Walt Disney Marathon - 26.2Mi
17 Jan - PF Chang's Rock and Roll Marathon - 26.2Mi
30 Jan - ARR Desert Classic Marathon - 26.2Mi
14 Feb - IMS Arizona Marathon - 26.2Mi
6 Mar - Valley of the Sun Half Marathon - 13.1Mi
Early May - Whiskey Row Marathon - 26.2Mi
Late May - San Diego Rock and Roll Marathon - 26.2Mi
Late June - Seattle Rock and Roll Marathon - 26.2Mi

That's as far as I've projected my calendar. Should be a fun year. 🙂

I'm thinking I'll do an impression of Phelps with all the participant medals around my neck while holding a bong.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Yes, but are you going to be banging 3 girls a night? 🙂

That's a lot of marathons dood...especially pretty closely packed together. You sure you're up for all those? I had a friend who did the Disney half/full back to back like you're going to. It's actually pretty enjoyable.

 

[magomago]

Yeah sounds like they are too closely packed. Even if you can do it...it might not be worth doing it. Lot of stress on the body at once.

 

[Bateluer]

I might do the Half Marathon on 30 Jan instead of the Full, depending on how I feel. I'm shooting to be ready for a 100mi race in October 2010.

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: magomago
Yeah sounds like they are too closely packed. Even if you can do it...it might not be worth doing it. Lot of stress on the body at once.

I will bet someone on these forums $200 that he develops an injury and is unable to complete all these.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux

Originally posted by: magomago
Yeah sounds like they are too closely packed. Even if you can do it...it might not be worth doing it. Lot of stress on the body at once.

I will bet someone on these forums $200 that he develops an injury and is unable to complete all these.

Do I get 200 USD if I succeed in all on the above list?

 

[SociallyChallenged]

As one who studies exercise biology, I'm going to honestly say that this is not healthy for you. A marathon a week after a previous marathon? I don't endorse marathons for the mostpart by themselves because they put the body in such a potentially dangerous spot (injury possibilities, overtraining, heart strain, fractures, inability to maintain caloric requirements for biosynthesis and maintenance, etc). Why do you even want to do so many events?

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
As one who studies exercise biology, I'm going to honestly say that this is not healthy for you. A marathon a week after a previous marathon? I don't endorse marathons for the mostpart by themselves because they put the body in such a potentially dangerous spot (injury possibilities, overtraining, heart strain, fractures, inability to maintain caloric requirements for biosynthesis and maintenance, etc). Why do you even want to do so many events?

The human body is made for endurance running. 😕

I want to do them because they are fun.

Edit - And its just January 2010 that'll be brutal, the rest are evenly spaced out.

One of my goals in 2010 is to complete at least 6 Rock and Roll Marathons. There's also a 100mi run in October, near Halloween, that I want to attempt before I turn 30.

 

[StageLeft]

A very rare number of people can run that much, like the top ultra runners. Most others will end up injured, even if they are extremely light and with no history of injury.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
As one who studies exercise biology, I'm going to honestly say that this is not healthy for you. A marathon a week after a previous marathon? I don't endorse marathons for the mostpart by themselves because they put the body in such a potentially dangerous spot (injury possibilities, overtraining, heart strain, fractures, inability to maintain caloric requirements for biosynthesis and maintenance, etc). Why do you even want to do so many events?

The human body is made for endurance running. 😕

I want to do them because they are fun.

Edit - And its just January 2010 that'll be brutal, the rest are evenly spaced out.

One of my goals in 2010 is to complete at least 6 Rock and Roll Marathons. There's also a 100mi run in October, near Halloween, that I want to attempt before I turn 30.

The human body goes into starvation mode during endurance running and burns all its resources. It puts your body in an unhealthy position, especially if you do something like this so frequently. It's so catabolic that your body essentially does not synthesize any necessary compounds during those hours. That's not what I call good for you.

I completely disagree that the average human body is meant for endurance running. I believe it can under required circumstances, but by no means do I believe the "Hunter Kenyan" look is a healthy one.

 

[StageLeft]

My take is that the average adult could be a very competent long distance runner if they had started it early enough: didn't get fat, stayed active, not spending time in chairs, etc. Most of us even as weekend warriors are undoing the malaise of contemporary life and its deleterious effects on our health. Other people can pick it up later in life and do ok but most who do have to contend with varying degrees of injury, at least when they start really increasing distances.

There are a very lucky few who run vast distances for decades on end and their bodies tolerate it well. These are a scant minority. In greater numbers are people who run large distances over, at least, years, and at some point end up injured.

The problem with running is that runners are sh*ttastically awful at cutting back distances when they hit a problem, which is why so many blissfully run into an injury state and then try and run through it, subsequently trashing their body and turning a mild problem into a potentially major one. And of course then is the inevitable feelings of despondency so many runners have faced in their lives and will face.

I love running, though. I wish I could do it more. If I could run these great distances without injury, I would do it, and often.

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
As one who studies exercise biology, I'm going to honestly say that this is not healthy for you. A marathon a week after a previous marathon? I don't endorse marathons for the mostpart by themselves because they put the body in such a potentially dangerous spot (injury possibilities, overtraining, heart strain, fractures, inability to maintain caloric requirements for biosynthesis and maintenance, etc). Why do you even want to do so many events?

The human body is made for endurance running. 😕

I want to do them because they are fun.

Edit - And its just January 2010 that'll be brutal, the rest are evenly spaced out.

One of my goals in 2010 is to complete at least 6 Rock and Roll Marathons. There's also a 100mi run in October, near Halloween, that I want to attempt before I turn 30.

The human body goes into starvation mode during endurance running and burns all its resources. It puts your body in an unhealthy position, especially if you do something like this so frequently. It's so catabolic that your body essentially does not synthesize any necessary compounds during those hours. That's not what I call good for you.

I completely disagree that the average human body is meant for endurance running. I believe it can under required circumstances, but by no means do I believe the "Hunter Kenyan" look is a healthy one.

That may be true but I am not sure that applies to marathons especially when you compare it to ultramarathons of 100 Km+ which the OP said he is looking to complete.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartathlon

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: mchammer187

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
As one who studies exercise biology, I'm going to honestly say that this is not healthy for you. A marathon a week after a previous marathon? I don't endorse marathons for the mostpart by themselves because they put the body in such a potentially dangerous spot (injury possibilities, overtraining, heart strain, fractures, inability to maintain caloric requirements for biosynthesis and maintenance, etc). Why do you even want to do so many events?

The human body is made for endurance running. 😕

I want to do them because they are fun.

Edit - And its just January 2010 that'll be brutal, the rest are evenly spaced out.

One of my goals in 2010 is to complete at least 6 Rock and Roll Marathons. There's also a 100mi run in October, near Halloween, that I want to attempt before I turn 30.

The human body goes into starvation mode during endurance running and burns all its resources. It puts your body in an unhealthy position, especially if you do something like this so frequently. It's so catabolic that your body essentially does not synthesize any necessary compounds during those hours. That's not what I call good for you.

I completely disagree that the average human body is meant for endurance running. I believe it can under required circumstances, but by no means do I believe the "Hunter Kenyan" look is a healthy one.

That may be true but I am not sure that applies to marathons especially when you compare it to ultramarathons of 100 Km+ which the OP said he is looking to complete.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartathlon

It happens at less than marathon distance. The process starts earlier than a 5k distance, but with a 5k or 10k, you aren't in that state for hours and hours on end, allowing for very few biosynthetic pathways to occur. Ultramarathons are just ultra-unhealthy. Marathons in themselves are not good for you. Just because they've made their way into society as "normal," that does not mean everybody is built for them. I've met marathoners in their old age and often times they are decrepit. Joints are blown, bones are lined with stress fractures, heart is strained. If we were meant to be endurance runners, then we were meant to die at 40-50 years old because anything past that and you deal with lifelong degenerations caused by it.

 

[StageLeft]

AFAIK contemporary studies show that painfree running is not related to an increase in joint damage. However, I believe sociallychallenged's anecdotes. As I said earlier, running is an addiction and while it's not a bad one if things are ok, when they go bad people have a hell of a time stopping it. I dare say a lot of people who would otherwise be ok end up screwing their joints because they just absolutely refuse to give their body a rest. I did this myself and I still have pain from training years ago. I know an elite runner who, after long runs, gets major intestinal issues and has even had blood in his stool. I guess I'd rather have a busted joint than busted inner organs, but most serious runners are terrible bad at throttling back activity when it's prudent to do so.

 

[StageLeft]

Another thing: when tired, imbalances can more clearly manifest. I won't forget my neighbor who did the pikes peak marathon. I saw him at the end (it was filmed) and he was severely to one side leaning on one leg like he had a bent back. It was severe. As you increase distances and really thrash out any energy, the body will exaggerate imbalances that it may have. I think it save to assume injury rates go significantly up at that point.

 

[Megatomic]

SC, I'm sure you're aware that endurance athletes consume nutrition while in the midst of their activities. If they didn't they'd bonk and be unable to finish - especially in the ultra events. I take in several hundred calories per hour when I'm doing my thing to prevent the dreaded bonk from occuring.

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
My take is that the average adult could be a very competent long distance runner if they had started it early enough: didn't get fat, stayed active, not spending time in chairs, etc. Most of us even as weekend warriors are undoing the malaise of contemporary life and its deleterious effects on our health. Other people can pick it up later in life and do ok but most who do have to contend with varying degrees of injury, at least when they start really increasing distances.

There are a very lucky few who run vast distances for decades on end and their bodies tolerate it well. These are a scant minority. In greater numbers are people who run large distances over, at least, years, and at some point end up injured.

The problem with running is that runners are sh*ttastically awful at cutting back distances when they hit a problem, which is why so many blissfully run into an injury state and then try and run through it, subsequently trashing their body and turning a mild problem into a potentially major one. And of course then is the inevitable feelings of despondency so many runners have faced in their lives and will face.

I love running, though. I wish I could do it more. If I could run these great distances without injury, I would do it, and often.

touche. This is me, especially the part where the fat old guy who picks up running suffers with nagging injuries from time to time when pushing the distance up. Two great things about running: endorphins and weight loss. These have made my life much much better than when I was a fatass.

 

[allies]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
As one who studies exercise biology, I'm going to honestly say that this is not healthy for you. A marathon a week after a previous marathon? I don't endorse marathons for the mostpart by themselves because they put the body in such a potentially dangerous spot (injury possibilities, overtraining, heart strain, fractures, inability to maintain caloric requirements for biosynthesis and maintenance, etc). Why do you even want to do so many events?

The human body is made for endurance running. 😕

I want to do them because they are fun.

Edit - And its just January 2010 that'll be brutal, the rest are evenly spaced out.

One of my goals in 2010 is to complete at least 6 Rock and Roll Marathons. There's also a 100mi run in October, near Halloween, that I want to attempt before I turn 30.

The human body is made for traveling long distances, not necessarily RUNNING the whole time...

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
SC, I'm sure you're aware that endurance athletes consume nutrition while in the midst of their activities. If they didn't they'd bonk and be unable to finish - especially in the ultra events. I take in several hundred calories per hour when I'm doing my thing to prevent the dreaded bonk from occuring.

Aye, Cliff Shots, protein bars, granola, water, gatorade. Lots of it. Usually pretty hungry a few hours after the long runs too.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: Megatomic
SC, I'm sure you're aware that endurance athletes consume nutrition while in the midst of their activities. If they didn't they'd bonk and be unable to finish - especially in the ultra events. I take in several hundred calories per hour when I'm doing my thing to prevent the dreaded bonk from occuring.

Aye, Cliff Shots, protein bars, granola, water, gatorade. Lots of it. Usually pretty hungry a few hours after the long runs too.

You think those are used to actually make much in the body? They're burned or tossed into glycogen only. The biosynthesis of important molecules is still severely slowed or stalled, I would imagine. You are in an almost totally catabolic state. Just because you take things in doesn't mean your body can do much with it other than create energy.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
. . . create energy.

That's exactly what it needs to do at that point in time. The other nutrients in the items will help with the recovery time later.

I sweat, some people seem to believe that humans cannot exercise without being submersed in water or on a zero impact glider machines. Total BS. Hundreds of thousands of people run marathons every year and only a tiny fraction of them actually get injured. Most people running ultra marathons are well over 50 years old too.

 

[zebano]

Good luck OP it's great to do something you love and I'm jealous that anyone has that type of free time. Take care of your body.

 

[StageLeft]

Two great things about running: endorphins and weight loss.

And the endorphins can be drug-like, which makes cutting back hard when necessary, plus a fear (and a very valid one) of weight gain if one cuts activity back and doesn't cut back calories (*raises hand*). For me, once fitness is at a good point and running is no longer a constant chore as it is to most people who don't run, there are few things in life as calming and right in how they feel as running on a nice day and listening to some good music.

 

[PricklyPete]

Holy crap...I thought I ran a lot. Good luck to you man. I think my body would literaly fall apart running that many long runs a year....maybe I'm just getting old.

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
For me, once fitness is at a good point and running is no longer a constant chore as it is to most people who don't run, there are few things in life as calming and right in how they feel as running on a nice day and listening to some good music.

I couldn't agree more. It is one of the most relaxing feelings I know.