Man got tired of cats on lawn, captures them, dumps them 25 miles away

[Eeezee]

You have the right to own pets.

You do not have the right to let your pets piss on the neighbor's plants and generally litter a neighbor's lawn. Keep your pets inside if you care about them so much. Cats are great indoor pets, and I know many families that never let the cat out. I and many others are appreciative that these families have a shred of common sense, unlike the people in this article that owned the lost (soon to be destroyed) cats.

 

[Eeezee]

I love jumping from page one of the post to page 12.

Page one discusses the cat theft.

Page 12 discusses shooting people and bicycle theft???

 

[91TTZ]

Edit: clipped- no further need to argue my point there.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Agentbolt

That's my quote right there. It appears I was wrong. SOMETIMES you can do just that. You were wrong as well to say that in some places, you can shoot someone for stealing your bike, without listing any qualifiers, but whatever. I promised a bow, you proved your point, well done.

*bow*

YYyyyyes!

 

[Agentbolt]

edit: DA specifically said Saechin was legally cool in shooting the dude the first time. No charges were filed. Double dammit. I didn't see the edited post, sorry Kelvrick.

I think it's time I took a mini-vacation from ATOT, I got way too worked up in this thread, especially considering I appear to have embarrassed myself more tha once in regards to the facts.

 

[Agentbolt]

YYyyyyes!

Hey man, I'm not above admitting defeat. Again, neither of us were 100% right. Which is probably the case in 99% of these types of arguments. It's why I've never posted once in P&N, and why I get irritated with myself when I find myself all fired up and in these types of discussions in OT instead.

For every semi-defeat I get handed like this though, there's 5 threads where I completely humble whoever I'm arguing with and they quietly slink out of the thread because they've got no comeback. So I'm not feeling too badly right now, at least you eventually pulled up some research that backed up your claim, instead of quoting what I wrote, making no attempt to refute it, and making some lame fifth grade joke about how I need to get laid.

 

[rubix]

i did something like this once, but it was with some annoying kids. i told them crazy kids to get off my lawn, but they just wouldn't listen.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Agentbolt

YYyyyyes!

Hey man, I'm not above admitting defeat. Again, neither of us were 100% right. Which is probably the case in 99% of these types of arguments. It's why I've never posted once in P&N, and why I get irritated with myself when I find myself all fired up and in these types of discussions in OT instead.

For every semi-defeat I get handed like this though, there's 5 threads where I completely humble whoever I'm arguing with and they quietly slink out of the thread because they've got no comeback. So I'm not feeling too badly right now, at least you eventually pulled up some research that backed up your claim, instead of quoting what I wrote, making no attempt to refute it, and making some lame fifth grade joke about how I need to get laid.

I agree with that. Most people won't concede any points, they'll just deny, deny, disappear.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Agentbolt

YYyyyyes!

Hey man, I'm not above admitting defeat. Again, neither of us were 100% right. Which is probably the case in 99% of these types of arguments. It's why I've never posted once in P&N, and why I get irritated with myself when I find myself all fired up and in these types of discussions in OT instead.

For every semi-defeat I get handed like this though, there's 5 threads where I completely humble whoever I'm arguing with and they quietly slink out of the thread because they've got no comeback. So I'm not feeling too badly right now, at least you eventually pulled up some research that backed up your claim, instead of quoting what I wrote, making no attempt to refute it, and making some lame fifth grade joke about how I need to get laid.

I agree with that. Most people won't concede any points, they'll just deny, deny, disappear.

Agree with that. Props to Agentbolt for at least manning up and admitting it.

 

[Agentbolt]

Agree with that. Props to Agentbolt for at least manning up and admitting it.

Eh, don't give me props for admitting to being wrong, that should just be a given.

It's one thing when I'm a raging asshole and I'm correct in what I'm saying. It's pretty easy to ignore the wailings of people like Lupi, DMcowen, whoever, when that happens.

When I'm typing in screaming caps and exclamation points and I'm WRONG, however, that's a bit embarrassing. Time to throttle back the time spent on ATOT while at work a wee bit, I think.

 

[kami333]

I like cats. I currently have 3 cats. I think taking the cats and dropping them off 25miles away where they'll mess up someone elses yard is wrong, but I would understand taking them to the shelter.

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Raduque
I hope they find out who it was that stole the cats and burn his house down.


Edit: I understand cat crap on shoes, but kids arms and hands? If his children are seriously too stupid to not play with shit, I think there's something wrong with this guy's parenting.

Raduque, you always side with the crazy cat owners even when it's clear that they're at fault. What responsibility do you think that cat owners have?

Also, this guy probably broke no laws. He simply captured stray animals that were on his property. He did not harm the animals, either.

I was actually trolling this time. All parties were irresponsible. But the ballless neighbor was the worst behaved of all involved. He should have confronted the cat owners. Or, stop being so damned anal about a few plants and some dirt.

Oh, and cats bury their crap. If his kids are covered in it, then his kids are digging it up, and that's just plain stupid.

Honestly, I don't think somebody would simply up and do this out of the blue. I think there's a bit of a backstory we're not getting. Maybe he has confronted the owners before.

For the record, I don't let my cats out of the house. If any of them get out, as soon as I discover it, I go looking for them.

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: xboxist
A lot of you are sick douchebags. Fuck off and die. There is no way that any sane mind can justify taking someone's CAT (aka 'family member' to many people; if you can't relate or understand this then go buy a heart off of eBay or something)... and basically leaving them for dead in the middle of nowhere.

Yes, IN GENERAL, letting your cats roam free is a bad idea for obvious reasons. But agreeing with some old man's decision to kidnap a bunch of cats and take them away from their homes, instead of doing something rational like returning them to their owners and having a talk with them about the situation... is just asinine and appalling.

its obvous they don't "love" this "family" member.

if they did they would take better care of it. they wouldnt allow it to run out in traffic and run onto other peoples property they do not know.

Now that's just assinine, waggy.

So are family members irresponsible when a person goes out on their own and gets kidnapped or murdered? Do they not "love" that person because they don't keep "tabs" on them 24/7? Should they have locked that person up so they wouldn't get out and get killed?

Yes, that's a bad analogy, But it still makes your argument look stupid.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
That is really inconsiderate and cold hearted. People's cats are like their family. If law permitted him to do it, would he trap the neighbor's kids if they were on his lawn and drop them off 25 miles away?

Jerk.

Families have their members roam the streets? I have 2 cats, and I let them onto my screened in patio... You can't consider a cat yours if you let it roam the neighborhood.. it is free for people to respond to as they please.. hence the idea of protecting them by keeping them inside!

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Citrix
what law are you talking about? how i can keep stuff i find on my property?

The owner clearly knew whom the cat belonged to because he sent them a letter. If you intentionally keep something knowing who the proper owner is, surely that is theft, unless property law has reverted back to how it was in Dances With Wolves and Costner's Hat.

If someone dumps something on the curb and leaves it there, it is free game, even if they own it. That is the law.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: TheNinja

Instead of the kids being angry at the man who took them, they should be angry at their parents who do not know, and did not teach them, proper pet ownership and the responsibilities that go along with it. So instead of the parents blaming this guy for hurting their kids' feelings by taking their pets, they should go look in a mirror and they'll see who they should really blame. People need to take responsibility for their actions in general instead of always blaming someone else.

You don't have kids either. It's really obvious who the parents are on this board sometimes.

Originally posted by: Xavier434
I do agree with this. The owners should keep them inside if they are continuously disrupting the neighborhood. However, it sounds like this guy didn't even have the balls to approach the neighbors and ask them to do something face to face. He just took matters into his own hands completely disregarding everyone. It is very possible that the owners had no idea that their animals were doing this stuff. They weren't even given a chance to correct the problem.

People can't correct problems that they don't know about.

Umm, they don't know that pets should be kept indoors and that harm could come to them if left unattended outdoors? Huh?

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: waggy
i agree he should have talked to the owners first.

but what if they refuse to do anything? then whaT? allow the cat free roaming?


not to mention anyone getting a cat/dog/reptile etc should know what the animals nature and what they do.

That is a tough one. I can't argue with that. Neighbors that don't do anything about it when they are approached with a problem like this are just as inconsiderate as this guy in the article. You need to try and approach them before assuming that nothing will be done though.

Basically, the answer if the neighbors won't do anything is that you can sue. Taking legal action like that will hurt the parents and the parents only. The pets are not effected and the kids are not effected. At least not directly. Leave the innocent ones out of the problem I say.

If the cats are run over by cars, will the parents be held responsible?

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Citrix
what law are you talking about? how i can keep stuff i find on my property?

The owner clearly knew whom the cat belonged to because he sent them a letter. If you intentionally keep something knowing who the proper owner is, surely that is theft, unless property law has reverted back to how it was in Dances With Wolves and Costner's Hat.

If someone dumps something on the curb and leaves it there, it is free game, even if they own it. That is the law.

There is a difference to abandoning property and leaving it / misplacing it though.

I don't get half the crap that went one above though, thread went from talking cats, to pussies talking.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: RaduqueNow that's just assinine, waggy.

So are family members irresponsible when a person goes out on their own and gets kidnapped or murdered? Do they not "love" that person because they don't keep "tabs" on them 24/7? Should they have locked that person up so they wouldn't get out and get killed?

Yes, that's a bad analogy, But it still makes your argument look stupid.

if you have a child with sever mental probles. one that runs into traffic, brakes windows in peoples houses. take shits all over the lawn etc.

would you let them outside whenever? no you would not. you would keep them inside or when outside stay near them so you can control them.

why? because you love them and don't want them hurt.

 

[OS]

some cat recently kept jumping on my car to trying to catch a bird cuz there was a nest there. You could tell there was a fight going on ontop of my car from all the smeared dirt and feathers all over the car.

I later removed the nest but the cat came back several times jumping on my car and smearing dirt all over it. I was starting to think about shooting it with birdshot.

Obviously I'd prefer not to have to do so, but if your cat is going to cause hundreds of dollars of damage to the finish of my property, on my property, and the owner is nowhere to be found, seriously. It's a repeat trespasser, a repeat vandal and the owner is nowhere to be found. Sorry.

I would be cool with just a cultural change that cats are treated same as dogs, a loose one you call animal control and they take it away. We're obviously not there yet.

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: OS

Obviously I'd prefer not to have to do so, but if your cat is going to cause hundreds of dollars of damage to the finish of my property, on my property, and the owner is nowhere to be found, seriously.

So are you going to bitch at the sun for causing thousands of dollars of damage when it fades your paint?

 

[0roo0roo]

nothings quite as annoying as neighbors cats coming into your yard to sh*t and f*ck making horrible screeching noises and such.

screw these people, they got the lesson they deserved.

want to let them out in your garden? invest in enough fencing to keep them in. i'm sure you can add a lip or something on the fence to keep them from climbing over it.

 

[her209]

Can I do the same thing to the neighbor's kids?

 

[soydios]

Originally posted by: Turin39789
keep your pets on your property.


but dumping them wasn't cool.

an excellent summary

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: soydios

Originally posted by: Turin39789
keep your pets on your property.


but dumping them wasn't cool.

an excellent summary

It was also entirely illegal.

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: Raduque

Originally posted by: OS

Obviously I'd prefer not to have to do so, but if your cat is going to cause hundreds of dollars of damage to the finish of my property, on my property, and the owner is nowhere to be found, seriously.

So are you going to bitch at the sun for causing thousands of dollars of damage when it fades your paint?

Unlike the sun, cats are the responsibility of the owner and provide no benefit to anyone but the owner.