Man Crushed by Steamroller On Orders of Chinese Officials

[OutHouse]

holy crap, warning graphic pic in the link.

http://www.infowars.com/man-crushed-by-road-flattening-truck-on-orders-of-chinese-officials/

 

[1prophet]

holy crap, warning graphic pic in the link.

http://www.infowars.com/man-crushed-by-road-flattening-truck-on-orders-of-chinese-officials/

And why should we care as long as we get our cheap junk while American CEO's get filthy rich, profits, the only thing that matters.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

I'm in China now. The Chinese government can seriously go fuck itself.

The article is correct. The state always owns the land of the people. When you spend all that money to buy land or property, it's really just for the privilege of using it for 60-70 years. Afterwards the government can just take it back. Fair compensation is not needed to take your land at any time.

Government officials are the people who earn the most money in this country along with super rich business owners. The gap between the lower class and upper class is enormous and there's little middle class to speak of. People strive to become government officials because they know that's where the money is, unlike people in other countries who do so out of a sense of wanting to serve their country and their countrymen. You can see how this becomes a problem. The incentives are not aligned correctly for the greater good.

 

[Ryan]

Will we ever see a revolution in China?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I can't look at it, after watching the pearle beheading it deeply changed my thoughts. Putting someone to death is wrong going it over money in a excessively cruel way is evil. The Chinese people will figure this out on their own like folks in the middleast are now.

 

[Atreus21]

Will we ever see a revolution in China?

here's hoping. Although one has to wonder at the odds of success of a revolution against a government like this.

 

[Genx87]

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

Too soon?

 

[Albatross]

Fvck them!even in Bucharest some communist official arrives, they all come out with their little flags to wave him welcome,servile little s..

 

[Baptismbyfire]

And why should we care as long as we get our cheap junk while American CEO's get filthy rich, profits, the only thing that matters.

I know you're being sarcastic but

That's gonna be [insert name of your country here] someday the way it's going.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Why my mother(and her family) and family will never go there. When my mother grew up there, the gov't would just barge into people's houses at night to take away who they believed were dissenters and you never heard from them again.

Based on their treatment of humans and animals, I would never give them my tourist dollars and try to limit my purchases of Made in China products.

 

[Genx87]

Why my mother(and her family) and family will never go there. When my mother grew up there, the gov't would just barge into people's houses at night to take away who they believed were dissenters and you never heard from them again.

Based on their treatment of humans and animals, I would never give them my tourist dollars and try to limit my purchases of Made in China products.

Fiances brothers wife is from China. As a kid they would wake the kids and make them run through the fields reciting an oath to the supreme leader. They also required everybody to carry their red book.

 

[Baptismbyfire]

It's mostly an illusion that it is other countries that we have to fear. It is not other countries, but monolithic, multi-national companies, who are above the law and know nothing of social responsibility that we have to be on watch for. Even if a revolution managed to somehow topple the current Chinese government, those multi-billionaire companies would still find a way to thrive in the new environment by manipulating the system, and will bide their time till they can once again impose the same kind of persecution and slavery. A country in which true liberals are dead and traditional conservatives have given ground to lunatics like the Tea Party and Romney has no future.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'm in China now. The Chinese government can seriously go fuck itself.

The article is correct. The state always owns the land of the people. When you spend all that money to buy land or property, it's really just for the privilege of using it for 60-70 years. Afterwards the government can just take it back. Fair compensation is not needed to take your land at any time.

Government officials are the people who earn the most money in this country along with super rich business owners. The gap between the lower class and upper class is enormous and there's little middle class to speak of. People strive to become government officials because they know that's where the money is, unlike people in other countries who do so out of a sense of wanting to serve their country and their countrymen. You can see how this becomes a problem. The incentives are not aligned correctly for the greater good.

That's an amazing perspective. When government holds such power and wealth, people do not aspire to serve their countrymen, but to rule them.

 

[ShawnD1]

holy crap, warning graphic pic in the link.

http://www.infowars.com/man-crushed-by-road-flattening-truck-on-orders-of-chinese-officials/

Not guilty. I've said things like that many many times before. Tree huggers chain themselves to trees so the trees can't be cut down? Just saw through them. Picketers standing in front of your car so you can't drive into the parking lot? Drive over them.
Serious, we need to take a stand here. If someone is stupid enough to stand in FRONT of a car then that person is obviously retarded and deserves to die.

The guy has a legitimate complaint against the government, but how much PCP did he smoke before he was convinced that his 100 pound human body will stop a steam roller? Say no to drugs and yes to steam rollers.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Will we ever see a revolution in China?

This is a tough question to answer. Revolution is a bit unlikely because:

1. The public are not allowed to own guns or weaponry of any kind. Even kitchen knives need to be registered. The government has all the weapons.

2. The government controls the internet and has power to block whatever they want (ultimate censorship power - and they often use it). Open access to knowledge is harder to come by.

3. The populous has a big problem with creativity - the education system is just about rote memorization. Expats who ask their Chinese colleagues to come up with creative solutions to things often get met with blank stares. Of course this is a generalization but I often hear expats complain of this. And the education system really is that way. People go to school to study how to take national exams.

4. There is more dissent in the cities where people are more educated. In the countryside, which accounts for basically all of the landmass (not sure about population), not so much.

5. Public transportation is the primary way of getting around, by far. Every time you get a train ticket you must provide your China ID. The government can track you easily this way, and they monitor all communications like text and web traffic. My dad is on China's list of people to watch out for due to his association with Falun Gong and one night government officials just showed up in his hotel room, completely out of the blue.

6. The people in power have a LOT of power and a LOT of money, and there's no system of checks and balances (in the judicial system there is no jury, only one judge who decides on everything).

Considering all this, the populace is at a huge disadvantage for a successful revolution.

After talking with some people it seems that if revolution were to happen, it would have to be from the members of the rank and file military. They are armed and they are comprised of normal citizens. But the military leadership is also corrupt.

I don't know where the hell this is going to go. It's a really sad state of affairs. I honestly feel incredibly bad for the Chinese populace.

 

[JTsyo]

Not guilty. I've said things like that many many times before. Tree huggers chain themselves to trees so the trees can't be cut down? Just saw through them. Picketers standing in front of your car so you can't drive into the parking lot? Drive over them.
Serious, we need to take a stand here. If someone is stupid enough to stand in FRONT of a car then that person is obviously retarded and deserves to die.

The guy has a legitimate complaint against the government, but how much PCP did he smoke before he was convinced that his 100 pound human body will stop a steam roller? Say no to drugs and yes to steam rollers.

Forgot this?

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

That's an amazing perspective. When government holds such power and wealth, people do not aspire to serve their countrymen, but to rule them.

Right. It's a little bit like lawyers in the US. They are supposed to want to become a lawyer because they truly believe in the principle that everyone should have a fair trial and a fighting chance at justice. But being a lawyer pays so much, so you get people becoming lawyers just for the pay who don't care about the principal. Some will fight and weasel around for things that are obviously wrong, because doing so means they will continue to get paid handsomely.

Now imagine this situation in China, but with the entire government.

 

[Svnla]

Will we ever see a revolution in China?

From what I read and study of the history of china, the most likely situation will be: economic down turn ==>> massive unemployment/hunger/et. ==> uprising.

As long as the CCP (communist chinese party) can continue with the economy expansion, it can maintain (note the word maintain) stability. IIRC, china is spending more for its internal security, ie. suppress its own people, than for its external defense.

 

[Baptismbyfire]

That's an amazing perspective. When government holds such power and wealth, people do not aspire to serve their countrymen, but to rule them.

There are several reasons why so many people seek government positions in Asian countries.

1. The private sector is very unstable in terms of employment (very hard to get hired, but very easy to be laid-off), and government-jobs tend to be the most secure, especially for women, who are not necessarily protected under the law, unlike in the states. For this reason, in Asian countries like Korea, only the very brightest have any chance of becoming teachers, and they generally spend two to three years studying over 12 hours a day for the teacher qualification exam. While being a teacher may be the last choice for many Americans, it is a very highly regarded job in less prosperous nations because of the security that comes with it.

2. The laws are not designed to protect the people, and so you need to know the right people in the right places in case shit hits the fan. Also, knowing the right people means you can get access to valuable information, such as which area of the country is going to be redeveloped, meaning you can become rich overnight by investing in real estate. In these countries, rags-to-rich stories are almost never heard of, and it is nearly impossible for you to become rich through sweat & toil. And since people know that the whole system is a sham, people tend to be less moral, and are willing to step over each other in order to survive the competition. That's why you have incidents like jealous kids breaking into the honor-roll student's dormitory to rip up his homework and steal his laptop, and people not bothering to stop and call 911, when they see a kid being run over by a car over and over. In a world where law has little meaning, people revert back to their animal state.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Not guilty. I've said things like that many many times before. Tree huggers chain themselves to trees so the trees can't be cut down? Just saw through them. Picketers standing in front of your car so you can't drive into the parking lot? Drive over them.
Serious, we need to take a stand here. If someone is stupid enough to stand in FRONT of a car then that person is obviously retarded and deserves to die.

The guy has a legitimate complaint against the government, but how much PCP did he smoke before he was convinced that his 100 pound human body will stop a steam roller? Say no to drugs and yes to steam rollers.

He obviously knew that he would die. But he decided to take a stand for what he felt was just. And it was a form of non-violent protest.

The violence came from the government. Instead of taking a more difficult but ultimately more just path, they decided to just kill him for no crime other than wanting to keep his home and/or get fair compensation for it. Also consider that a home is usually all that people in China have. The Chinese do not have a culture of taking loans. They buy homes with cash or at least put down a massive down payment. So when they lose their homes they truly lose their life's worth.

And you have to realize that in China there are no avenues for his "legitimate complaint against the government." It's not like in the US where there is a legal system that is fair and balanced and one where the government can actually LOSE if found to have overstepped their bounds.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

no doubt those in charge thought it was for the greater good

 

[ShawnD1]

Forgot this?

As the old saying goes, even a person high on PCP wins from time to time.

He obviously knew that he would die. But he decided to take a stand for what he felt was just. And it was a form of non-violent protest.

And it was an effective protest. It reminds me of V for Vendetta (the movie) where a government official shooting a child was the last straw. The oppression needs to be out in the open before people start to revolt.

And you have to realize that in China there are no avenues for his "legitimate complaint against the government."

I'm not thinking he should sue since that obviously won't work. I was thinking more along the lines of murdering government officials, but it might be difficult since China has very tight gun laws. The people would have revolted a long time ago if they were armed to the teeth, like the US was before the revolution.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

There are several reasons why so many people seek government positions in Asian countries.

1. The private sector is very unstable in terms of employment (very hard to get hired, but very easy to be laid-off), and government-jobs tend to be the most secure, especially for women, who are not necessarily protected under the law, unlike in the states. For this reason, in Asian countries like Korea, only the very brightest have any chance of becoming teachers, and they generally spend two to three years studying over 12 hours a day for the teacher qualification exam. While being a teacher may be the last choice for many Americans, it is a very highly regarded job in less prosperous nations because of the security that comes with it.

2. The laws are not designed to protect the people, and so you need to know the right people in the right places in case shit hits the fan. Also, knowing the right people means you can get access to valuable information, such as which area of the country is going to be redeveloped, meaning you can become rich overnight by investing in real estate. In these countries, rags-to-rich stories are almost never heard of, and it is nearly impossible for you to become rich through sweat & toil. And since people know that the whole system is a sham, people tend to be less moral, and are willing to step over each other in order to survive the competition. That's why you have incidents like jealous kids breaking into the honor-roll student's dormitory to rip up his homework and steal his laptop, and people not bothering to stop and call 911, when they see a kid being run over by a car over and over. In a world where law has little meaning, people revert back to their animal state.

The laws are so fucked up.

To your last point in #2: that little girl who get hit by a car over and over and no one stopped to help her as she was laying on the ground:

There is no Good Samaritan Law in China. It's not that people don't want to help - it's that they're afraid too. If the girl died, the good Samaritan could very well be sued and lose a LOT. You would think this is an obviously law, but it just doesn't exist in China.

 

[Svnla]

Not guilty. I've said things like that many many times before. Tree huggers chain themselves to trees so the trees can't be cut down? Just saw through them. Picketers standing in front of your car so you can't drive into the parking lot? Drive over them.
Serious, we need to take a stand here. If someone is stupid enough to stand in FRONT of a car then that person is obviously retarded and deserves to die.

The guy has a legitimate complaint against the government, but how much PCP did he smoke before he was convinced that his 100 pound human body will stop a steam roller? Say no to drugs and yes to steam rollers.

Sorry, disagree with your point about compare situations like this to tree huggers.

First of all, tree huggers would not spend their own and their family fortune on those land. In other word, those families become destitude without their land. Tree huggers are not.

Secondly, tree huggers are symbolic, they would create publicity and then leave, they would never stay around for years to take care of those land with their own sweat and tear.

A friend of mine sent me a story a few months ago. A well know guy in Vietnam spent years and a lot of money to create a shrimp farm. Local governement sent thugs to take it without fair compensation, he and his family fought back and a few ended up dead on both sides. It was a mess. Even the central goverment had to intervene.


Edit: What I am trying to say is those folks are DESPERATE and you know when folks that have nothing to lose, they will not afraid of anything, they would willing to die for their cause.

 

[nehalem256]

Sorry, disagree with your point about compare situations like this to tree huggers.

First of all, tree huggers would not spend their own and their family fortune on those land. In other word, those families become destitude without their land. Tree huggers are not.

Secondly, tree huggers are symbolic, they would create publicity and then leave, they would never stay around for years to take care of those land with their own sweat and tear.

A friend of mine sent me a story a few months ago. A well know guy in Vietnam spent years and a lot of money to create a shrimp farm. Local governement sent thugs to take it without fair compensation, he and his family fought back and a few ended up dead on both sides. It was a mess. Even the central goverment had to intervene.

Didn't you listen to Obama. "He didn't build it"