Man charged with manslaughter for killing the twerp who stole his car

[KK]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: SnapIT
Tooo much for me... tomorrow is christmas eve and i got kids, i don't want to think about this anymore....i'm out...

No! Don't quit! That's how the idiots always win! They overpower us, bring us down to their level, then beat us with experience!!!!!

nnnoOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, i'll stick around for a bit then, just for you... but i think we just crushed them and won this debate...

It's not over yet. I agree this guy went beyond what he should have. What if you went chasing after this kid and during the chase, the kid runs you off the road and kills you. Would you consider this the guys fault or the kids fault?

KK

The guy's fault for being dumb enough to chase, and the kid's fault for murdering the owner of the car.

Now what if the guy had his infant daughter in the backseat of the car that was stolen? Would he still be considered dumb by you?

KK

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: OulOat

Originally posted by: Citrix

So I was to somehow steal an nuke, or some secret documents from the CIA, they can't kill me right? Cause killing me is ILLEGAL!

You are a moron. Since I used to GUARD NUKES i can say that you would be shot DEAD DEAD DEAD the second stepped foot in a WSA (Weapons Storage Area). And no it would not be illegal and the Air Force Cop who killed you would get a medal. Same goes for CLASSIFIED documents deemed "of national security" you would be equally dead.

HOW IN THE FU*K did this degrade to an annalgy to stealing a nuke? This thread needs to be flushed.

WTG? Quoting djheater and basically summarizing what several members feel, "maybe i was raised differently than all of you but i value human life above that of material items. you can replace cars, you can't replace 15 year old boys." Hm, last time I checked U238 was material, and so was paper. So I was wondering if they would reconsider their argument if they caught someone stealing those things instead of a car. Just remember, you have no idea what the thief will uses those items or the car for; for all you know, the thief might just resell them (car, nuke, papers) on the black market or might have malicous uses for them.

Sorry, I'm not going to crawl to your level by name calling. Although, on second thought... how's the cancer?

Hows the cancer?? you are one big asshole.

Yikes! I didn't catch that! :Q

:disgust: :|

That's worth threatening a ban...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: SnapIT
Tooo much for me... tomorrow is christmas eve and i got kids, i don't want to think about this anymore....i'm out...

No! Don't quit! That's how the idiots always win! They overpower us, bring us down to their level, then beat us with experience!!!!!

nnnoOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, i'll stick around for a bit then, just for you... but i think we just crushed them and won this debate...

It's not over yet. I agree this guy went beyond what he should have. What if you went chasing after this kid and during the chase, the kid runs you off the road and kills you. Would you consider this the guys fault or the kids fault?

KK

The guy's fault for being dumb enough to chase, and the kid's fault for murdering the owner of the car.

Now what if the guy had his infant daughter in the backseat of the car that was stolen? Would he still be considered dumb by you?

KK

I would follow him to hell, but i sure as hell wouldn't fire at the car...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: OulOat

Originally posted by: Citrix

So I was to somehow steal an nuke, or some secret documents from the CIA, they can't kill me right? Cause killing me is ILLEGAL!

You are a moron. Since I used to GUARD NUKES i can say that you would be shot DEAD DEAD DEAD the second stepped foot in a WSA (Weapons Storage Area). And no it would not be illegal and the Air Force Cop who killed you would get a medal. Same goes for CLASSIFIED documents deemed "of national security" you would be equally dead.

HOW IN THE FU*K did this degrade to an annalgy to stealing a nuke? This thread needs to be flushed.

WTG? Quoting djheater and basically summarizing what several members feel, "maybe i was raised differently than all of you but i value human life above that of material items. you can replace cars, you can't replace 15 year old boys." Hm, last time I checked U238 was material, and so was paper. So I was wondering if they would reconsider their argument if they caught someone stealing those things instead of a car. Just remember, you have no idea what the thief will uses those items or the car for; for all you know, the thief might just resell them (car, nuke, papers) on the black market or might have malicous uses for them.

Sorry, I'm not going to crawl to your level by name calling. Although, on second thought... how's the cancer?

Hows the cancer?? you are one big asshole.

Yikes! I didn't catch that! :Q

:disgust: :|

That's worth threatening a ban...

Neither did i, i wonder why everyone slipped on that one... certainly worth a ban!

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: SnapIT
Tooo much for me... tomorrow is christmas eve and i got kids, i don't want to think about this anymore....i'm out...

No! Don't quit! That's how the idiots always win! They overpower us, bring us down to their level, then beat us with experience!!!!!

nnnoOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, i'll stick around for a bit then, just for you... but i think we just crushed them and won this debate...

It's not over yet. I agree this guy went beyond what he should have. What if you went chasing after this kid and during the chase, the kid runs you off the road and kills you. Would you consider this the guys fault or the kids fault?

KK

The guy's fault for being dumb enough to chase, and the kid's fault for murdering the owner of the car.

Now what if the guy had his infant daughter in the backseat of the car that was stolen? Would he still be considered dumb by you?

KK

That would be the parent's maternal instincts to chase after the guy. It would still be the man's fault for following the thief. He made the decision to get in another car and chase after the guy. How could that possibly not be his fault!? Right and wrong go out the window when a parent gets put in this position - but it doesn't negate right and wrong. It would still be more correct to call the police and inform them that it is now a kidnapping case with an infant in the back.

In ANY case like this, the police are the ones to properly handle this.

Granted, if I were that parent, I would chase him down. Not fscking shoot at him, but I would grab my cell phone, call 911, and follow the guy. Not interfere, but follow. It's not worth risking the life of my baby.

 

[KK]

What do you feel this guy should be sentenced? Base this upon if he never had a run in with the law before this one. I don't know if that is true or not, let's pretend. I personally think 1 - 2 years would be the max. And this would be a misdermeanor, no sense making this guy a felon over this.

KK

 

[psianime]

The judge will understand the motive of the man who killed the criminal. I'd say a few years in prison and a few years probation.

-psianime

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: psianime
The judge will understand the motive of the man who killed the criminal. I'd say a few years in prison and a few years probation.

-psianime

Motivation? Car theft is no proper motivation for murder. Walking in on the milkman raping your wife. That's almost proper motivation for murder in the heat of the moment. A man with a gun to your child's head yelling at you that he's going to kill your child. That's motivation for murder as long as it's to get your child out of harm's way and not removing your child from the equasion and then killing the man.

Car theft... what the FIZUCK is the matter with you idiots?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: KK
What do you feel this guy should be sentenced? Base this upon if he never had a run in with the law before this one. I don't know if that is true or not, let's pretend. I personally think 1 - 2 years would be the max. And this would be a misdermeanor, no sense making this guy a felon over this.

KK

Both murder and manslaughter are capitol crimes - felonies. Either way, this guy should go down in flames for what he chose to do.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: psianime
The judge will understand the motive of the man who killed the criminal. I'd say a few years in prison and a few years probation.

-psianime

Motivation? Car theft is no proper motivation for murder. Walking in on the milkman raping your wife. That's almost proper motivation for murder in the heat of the moment. A man with a gun to your child's head yelling at you that he's going to kill your child. That's motivation for murder as long as it's to get your child out of harm's way and not removing your child from the equasion and then killing the man.

Car theft... what the FIZUCK is the matter with you idiots?

We just understand that all lives aren't equally valuable.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK
What do you feel this guy should be sentenced? Base this upon if he never had a run in with the law before this one. I don't know if that is true or not, let's pretend. I personally think 1 - 2 years would be the max. And this would be a misdermeanor, no sense making this guy a felon over this.

KK

Both murder and manslaughter are capitol crimes - felonies. Either way, this guy should go down in flames for what he chose to do.

What would you sentence this guy to? Put the number in years not flames.

KK

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: psianime
The judge will understand the motive of the man who killed the criminal. I'd say a few years in prison and a few years probation.

-psianime

Motivation? Car theft is no proper motivation for murder. Walking in on the milkman raping your wife. That's almost proper motivation for murder in the heat of the moment. A man with a gun to your child's head yelling at you that he's going to kill your child. That's motivation for murder as long as it's to get your child out of harm's way and not removing your child from the equasion and then killing the man.

Car theft... what the FIZUCK is the matter with you idiots?

We just understand that all lives aren't equally valuable.

Ah, so you don't recognise the constitution as a valid agreement between men?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK
What do you feel this guy should be sentenced? Base this upon if he never had a run in with the law before this one. I don't know if that is true or not, let's pretend. I personally think 1 - 2 years would be the max. And this would be a misdermeanor, no sense making this guy a felon over this.

KK

Both murder and manslaughter are capitol crimes - felonies. Either way, this guy should go down in flames for what he chose to do.

What would you sentence this guy to? Put the number in years not flames.

KK

Years. 10-20.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: psianime
The judge will understand the motive of the man who killed the criminal. I'd say a few years in prison and a few years probation.

-psianime

Motivation? Car theft is no proper motivation for murder. Walking in on the milkman raping your wife. That's almost proper motivation for murder in the heat of the moment. A man with a gun to your child's head yelling at you that he's going to kill your child. That's motivation for murder as long as it's to get your child out of harm's way and not removing your child from the equasion and then killing the man.

Car theft... what the FIZUCK is the matter with you idiots?

We just understand that all lives aren't equally valuable.

Ah, so you don't recognise the constitution as a valid agreement between men?

I think it said something along the lines of, "all men are created equal". Can you point to where all people are equal?

KK

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: psianime
The judge will understand the motive of the man who killed the criminal. I'd say a few years in prison and a few years probation.

-psianime

Motivation? Car theft is no proper motivation for murder. Walking in on the milkman raping your wife. That's almost proper motivation for murder in the heat of the moment. A man with a gun to your child's head yelling at you that he's going to kill your child. That's motivation for murder as long as it's to get your child out of harm's way and not removing your child from the equasion and then killing the man.

Car theft... what the FIZUCK is the matter with you idiots?

We just understand that all lives aren't equally valuable.

Ah, so you don't recognise the constitution as a valid agreement between men?

I think it said something along the lines of, "all men are created equal". Can you point to where all people are equal?

KK

All men were created with the same right to live.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

All men were created with the same right to live

does it actually say that or are you implying that?

KK

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

All men were created with the same right to live

does it actually say that or are you implying that?

KK

Do you know Declaration of Independance? Answer that yourself.

 

[LuNoTiCK]

Wow this thread is long.

He obviously got caught stealing twice, and who knows how many other countless times he did it. He planned on doing it more also. He probably just steals it, and destroys the car, it happens all the time. It is hurting a lot of people, and insurance companies. Besides not everyone has full coverage. He got what he deserves. The car could have sentimental value to the guy also.

One other thing is, how long will the police take once he calls them? By the time they come, they won't be able to find the kid. The car is probably destroyed if they ever find it.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

All men were created with the same right to live

does it actually say that or are you implying that?

KK

Do you know The Constitution? Answer that yourself.

I don't know it that well, so I went a lookin. Here's what I found in the short time I was looking.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

This was in the declaration of independence. I found nothing in the constitution. Going by this, all men are created equal and after they are created that's where people go their different ways. One life is more important to me than a thief's life. That is not equal. So be it.

KK

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

All men were created with the same right to live

does it actually say that or are you implying that?

KK

Do you know The Constitution? Answer that yourself.

I don't know it that well, so I went a lookin. Here's what I found in the short time I was looking.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

This was in the declaration of independence. I found nothing in the constitution. Going by this, all men are created equal and after they are created that's where people go their different ways. One life is more important to me than a thief's life. That is not equal. So be it.

KK

Declaration of Independance? Eh... that's what I get for concentrating on three different things and trying to do my job at work at the same time.

So... where does it say in the DoI, or anywhere for that matter, that the lives of two men are worth more than one another's? And in what twisted world would you find people thinking that a car is worth more than a human life? Oh, that's right... the materialistic, selfish, pigheaded world that is democracy. :disgust: :frown:

There are people out there risking their lives for you RIGHT THIS VERY MINUTE. There are people out there risking their lives for your petty opinion. There are people who have DIED for you to have your opinion. There are people who have DIED for someone's right to be innocent until proven guilty. There are hundreds of THOUSANDS of people who have DIED to be able to ensure that people like that little 15yr old would have the CHANCE to reform and become a better person.

And you're throwing it in their face, belitting their sacrifice, and showing that you really don't deserve to even live in this country.

Nice job.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

All men were created with the same right to live

does it actually say that or are you implying that?

KK

Do you know The Constitution? Answer that yourself.

I don't know it that well, so I went a lookin. Here's what I found in the short time I was looking.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

This was in the declaration of independence. I found nothing in the constitution. Going by this, all men are created equal and after they are created that's where people go their different ways. One life is more important to me than a thief's life. That is not equal. So be it.

KK

Declaration of Independance? Eh... that's what I get for concentrating on three different things and trying to do my job at work at the same time.

So... where does it say in the DoI, or anywhere for that matter, that the lives of two men are worth more than one another's? And in what twisted world would you find people thinking that a car is worth more than a human life? Oh, that's right... the materialistic, selfish, pigheaded world that is democracy. :disgust: :frown:

There are people out there risking their lives for you RIGHT THIS VERY MINUTE. There are people out there risking their lives for your petty opinion. There are people who have DIED for you to have your opinion. There are people who have DIED for someone's right to be innocent until proven guilty. There are hundreds of THOUSANDS of people who have DIED to be able to ensure that people like that little 15yr old would have the CHANCE to reform and become a better person.

And you're throwing it in their face, belitting their sacrifice, and showing that you really don't deserve to even live in this country.

Nice job.

I have served, have you? I believe you were ticked off about your job, why don't quit it and sign up to serve too? You may even change your thinking.

And in this case I don't think that kid would have been able to have been reformed.

KK

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

And that's your decision to make? Should I start calling you Elohim?

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: psianime
The judge will understand the motive of the man who killed the criminal. I'd say a few years in prison and a few years probation.

-psianime

Motivation? Car theft is no proper motivation for murder. Walking in on the milkman raping your wife. That's almost proper motivation for murder in the heat of the moment. A man with a gun to your child's head yelling at you that he's going to kill your child. That's motivation for murder as long as it's to get your child out of harm's way and not removing your child from the equasion and then killing the man.

Car theft... what the FIZUCK is the matter with you idiots?

car theft is justification to me. i dont know i'd do it out of my own mental health concerns afterwards but i certainly wouldn't protest if someone else did.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

All men were created with the same right to live

does it actually say that or are you implying that?

KK

Do you know The Constitution? Answer that yourself.

I don't know it that well, so I went a lookin. Here's what I found in the short time I was looking.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

This was in the declaration of independence. I found nothing in the constitution. Going by this, all men are created equal and after they are created that's where people go their different ways. One life is more important to me than a thief's life. That is not equal. So be it.

KK

Declaration of Independance? Eh... that's what I get for concentrating on three different things and trying to do my job at work at the same time.

So... where does it say in the DoI, or anywhere for that matter, that the lives of two men are worth more than one another's? And in what twisted world would you find people thinking that a car is worth more than a human life? Oh, that's right... the materialistic, selfish, pigheaded world that is democracy. :disgust: :frown:

There are people out there risking their lives for you RIGHT THIS VERY MINUTE. There are people out there risking their lives for your petty opinion. There are people who have DIED for you to have your opinion. There are people who have DIED for someone's right to be innocent until proven guilty. There are hundreds of THOUSANDS of people who have DIED to be able to ensure that people like that little 15yr old would have the CHANCE to reform and become a better person.

And you're throwing it in their face, belitting their sacrifice, and showing that you really don't deserve to even live in this country.

Nice job.

I have served, have you? I believe you were ticked off about your job, why don't quit it and sign up to serve too? You may even change your thinking.

And in this case I don't think that kid would have been able to have been reformed.

KK

I have served for several years, not for the US, but that does that mean i cannot have an opinion?

You are still wrong, no matter how you look at it, now matter how you twist and turn it, you are wrong... try as you may, but you cannot twist it enough to make you right..

Your efforts only make me think less of you...

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

This is incredibly shocking to me... how many people would simply throw away a life like this...