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Man Calls 9-1-1 After Finding Girlfriend Stabbed, Cops Show Up, Kill Him

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master_shake_ said:
no negligence but malpractice monies anyway.

sense, this doesn't make any.

and that's a real issue isn't it.

the "fuck this shit i wanna leave" attitude.

that's not justice, it's impatience.
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If my limited experience is anything like what goes on everywhere else then, as a country, we are getting the justice we deserve. Or at least the best justice we are capable of given our populace.

It sucks but honestly, I've carved out a little life where I'm not (so far) involved in the system so I don't feel much pressure to do anything about it. I recognize the apathy is also a big part of the problem.
 
Look up the Deluth model police need to follow. By default, the husband/boyfriend/nearest male is assumed to be a dangerous offender in pretty much any male/female altercation.

Thanks so much for VAWA, feminists - that wasn't abused at all.


Thankfully, the whole "shoot first" policy isn't universal. Blecch.
 
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Blue_Max said:
Look up the Deluth model police need to follow. By default, the husband/boyfriend/nearest male is assumed to be a dangerous offender in pretty much any male/female altercation.

Thanks so much for VAWA, feminists - that wasn't abused at all.


Thankfully, the whole "shoot first" policy isn't universal. Blecch.
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Uh, he called the cops and told them that a guy staying with them stabbed his girlfriend. The cop was there looking for a man who was armed and dangerous because that is what was communicated to 911.

Either because the cop was reckless or just because of an unfortunate tragedy, he shot the wrong man. What exactly does this have to do with the police presuming a husband or boyfriend is an abuser? He didn't even know who the guy was the boyfriend. Given what was known to the cop, he could have been the guy who knifed the girlfriend. In any event, he fired at him - rightly or wrongly - because the guy had a gun.

Amazing how you can import yet another attack on feminists into a thread which has absolutely nothing to do with it.
 
woolfe9998 said:
Uh, he called the cops and told them that a guy staying with them stabbed his girlfriend. The cop was there looking for a man who was armed and dangerous because that is what was communicated to 911.

Amazing how you can import yet another attack on feminists into a thread which has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Look up the Deluth model, then tell me why I'm wrong.


Presumed guilty or not, they still were far too trigger-happy - as evidenced by the shooting of a 3-legged dog. Sheesh.
 
It's amazing to me how many people automatically protect the police, even when they were clearly in the wrong. It remains to be seen if they were criminally wrong in this case, but they killed the man who called for help, so clearly they did a horrible job at the very least.

Police in the UK have killed 2 people this year, police in the US have killed around 1000. Even if you adjust for population, that still means that US police kill at 100 times the rate of UK police. Can the people who defend the police please tell me why that is ? Why does US police need to kill 100 times as many people as UK police does ?
 
khon said:
It's amazing to me how many people automatically protect the police, even when they were clearly in the wrong. It remains to be seen if they were criminally wrong in this case, but they killed the man who called for help, so clearly they did a horrible job at the very least.

Police in the UK have killed 2 people this year, police in the US have killed around 1000. Even if you adjust for population, that still means that US police kill at 100 times the rate of UK police. Can the people who defend the police please tell me why that is ? Why does US police need to kill 100 times as many people as UK police does ?
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We have a lot more shitty people (citizens) here. Let us send them over to you and your police shootings will quickly skyrocket.
 
JackBurton said:
We have a lot more shitty people (citizens) here. Let us send them over to you and your police shootings will quickly skyrocket.
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Your crime rates aren't 100x higher than the UK, or even 10x higher for that matter, so why is the rate of police killings 100x higher ?
 
khon said:
Your crime rates aren't 100x higher than the UK, or even 10x higher for that matter, so why is the rate of police killings 100x higher ?
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Check the rates of firearm related crimes, genius, and then get back to us.
 
Sulaco said:
Check the rates of firearm related crimes, genius, and then get back to us.
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So you think the guns are the problem ? I guess that means you think gun control is the answer ?

Also, how does this account for all the cases where the person killed was unarmed ?
 
khon said:
So you think the guns are the problem ? I guess that means you think gun control is the answer ?

Also, how does this account for all the cases where the person killed was unarmed ?
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Why don't you come over here and live in Furgerson for awhile with all the college bound residents and then get back to me. You'll quickly find your answers.
 
I'm guessing that this killing will not be counted as a death caused by having a gun in the home for "self defense." Because it's 100% clear that without that gun, Edwards would be alive today.
 
khon said:
So you think the guns are the problem ? I guess that means you think gun control is the answer ?

Also, how does this account for all the cases where the person killed was unarmed ?
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It doesn't have to account for those other deaths, just as (justifiably) blaming thousands of deaths on failure to use a seatbelt isn't invalidated just because people also die who do use seatbelts.
 
khon said:
Police in the UK have killed 2 people this year, police in the US have killed around 1000. Even if you adjust for population, that still means that US police kill at 100 times the rate of UK police. Can the people who defend the police please tell me why that is ? Why does US police need to kill 100 times as many people as UK police does ?
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http://killedbypolice.net/

broke 1000 a few days ago and the year isn't over yet.....
 
khon said:
Police in the UK have killed 2 people this year, police in the US have killed around 1000. Even if you adjust for population, that still means that US police kill at 100 times the rate of UK police. Can the people who defend the police please tell me why that is ? Why does US police need to kill 100 times as many people as UK police does ?
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Possibly because police in America know they are much more likely to encounter handgun-armed suspects, and approach all interactions with suspects with a much more defensive mindset than their British counterparts. It's entirely predictable that that would lead to much higher death rates of both handgun-armed and non-handgun-armed suspects.
 
That's what 9 guns for every 10 people (not even including police/military arms) gets you. We have a gun problem in this country, and all these trigger happy cops are yet another symptom that can be traced directly back to it.
 
Gonad the Barbarian said:
That's what 9 guns for every 10 people (not even including police/military arms) gets you. We have a gun problem in this country, and all these trigger happy cops are yet another symptom that can be traced directly back to it.
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The problem isn't the existence of so many guns. That's why we don't have 300 million firearm deaths in a year; heck, in a day!
 
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