make a case for why someone would enjoy your area

[Svnla]

Location: Southern US

Goods:
Cheap housing (200K for 2K sq ft with backyard) and cheap property tax
Friendly people (most of the time)
Low cost of living
Good foods (aligator meat blacken FTW)
Almost never snow in the winter

Bads:
Too many not too bright rednecks/redneckresses
Corruption and stupid state/local government
Freaking hot and humid in the summer
Not a lot of high paying jobs unless you are in the healthcare field
Stupid drivers + ambulance chasing lawyers + high percentage of uninsured drivers = top 10 most expensive car insurance

 

[KillerCharlie]

we have some great real climbing and mountaineering here as well. just more of our peaks are travelled by tourists, for some reason they like our state a lot.

Ehh, I've been to Colorado several times. The mountains are too accessible. Everything is so dry. Every time I've flown from Denver into Seattle, the people sitting next to me from Colorado are shocked at how beautiful the Cascades are.

Just the fact that you can drive to the top of a 14,000 ft mountain in Colorado in a car shows how uninspiring those mountains can be. In fact, the mountains in Colorado actually look smaller because the base elevation is so much higher (5,000 ft in Denver, sea level in Seattle). Plus the big mountains in Washington are badass volcanoes.

The skiing is better in Colorado for sure, but Washington has legendary places like Mt. Baker (world record for snowfall, plus it's more beautiful than any other US resort).

Washington state is extremely diverse - perhaps more so than any other state, with the possible exception of OR or CA. There are deserts, plains, rugged mountains (snowiest mountains in the world), rainforests (most rainfall in the 48 states, plus 300 ft tall trees), island-filled seas, the most pristine natural ocean beaches in the 48 states, and active volcanoes.

Housing prices suck though. That's what you get for being smashed in between the sea and the mountains.

 

[judasmachine]

the beach. the weather. wildlife ranges from alligators and river otters to sharks and dolphins. yeah that's about it. the people here generally suck, crime is out of control, no jobs, no money, city next door was named the weirdest city in the weirdest state.

/misses West Texas badly

 

[theblackbox]

Ehh, I've been to Colorado several times. The mountains are too accessible. Everything is so dry. Every time I've flown from Denver into Seattle, the people sitting next to me from Colorado are shocked at how beautiful the Cascades are.

Just the fact that you can drive to the top of a 14,000 ft mountain in Colorado in a car shows how uninspiring those mountains can be. In fact, the mountains in Colorado actually look smaller because the base elevation is so much higher (5,000 ft in Denver, sea level in Seattle). Plus the big mountains in Washington are badass volcanoes.

The skiing is better in Colorado for sure, but Washington has legendary places like Mt. Baker (world record for snowfall, plus it's more beautiful than any other US resort).

Washington state is extremely diverse - perhaps more so than any other state, with the possible exception of OR or CA. There are deserts, plains, rugged mountains (snowiest mountains in the world), rainforests (most rainfall in the 48 states, plus 300 ft tall trees), island-filled seas, the most pristine natural ocean beaches in the 48 states, and active volcanoes.

Housing prices suck though. That's what you get for being smashed in between the sea and the mountains.

not all the mountains are that accesible. the collegiates, maroon bells and some of the rest of the western slope defy that rule. maroon bells being the most photographed area in the rocky mountains and one of the most in the US.
we have it all, except for beach and rain forest. we have plains, high plains, desert, high desert, badlands, foothills, rugged mountains, and thankfully no active volcanoes.
i like the cascades, and olympic mountains, don't get me wrong.
my house is at 9350ft, and well away from the hustle and bustle of city life, which i can not stand.
you are right, we start higher elevation and then the mountains go from there, certainly not as impressive as being in death valley and seeing an 11k foot mountain from sea level up.
i think it comes down to opinion. luckily we all have our own, otherwise we'd live in the same place and it'd be a shithole like LA.

oh, and our governor sucks more then yours.

personally, i wish your resorts would take our load, i would love a quiet peaceful winter in summit county and all around the state.

 

[theblackbox]

oh and if i could give denver up on the front range to nebraska and pueblo south to new mexico, and the plains to kansas, colorado would be much better off.

 

[alfa147x]

Suwanee, GA

 

[l0cke]

i'm still scratching my head about #4. i've been all over virginia but have yet to see a mountain, some nice hills, but mountains?

please.


oh, for mine.

1. 600+ 13k foot mountains, 53 14k foot mountains.
2. skiing
3. gold medal streams and rivers
4. mountain biking
5. close to utah
6. never a humid or hot day to speak of
7. wildlife, deer, elk, bear and mountain lions
8. that song america the beautiful was written about us.
9. if russia ever invades, the wolverines will be here to stop them.
10. clean air.

thats colorado for you.

All of the above. The problem is everyone from CA is moving here and ruining it.

Also, don't move to my city unless you want to open up a meth lab.

 

[Printer Bandit]

1. silicon
2. valley

 

[oiprocs]

Real sticky icky. The closest the East Coast comes to Chronic is Dr. Dre.

 

[lokiju]

Area: North of Atlanta, GA (Suburb)
Pros:
In general, houses cost a lot less for what you get than where I'm from (south east FL)
Decent job market.
4 season but not so cold in the winter that snow is a issue/concern (usually)
Tons of tree's and greenery. Down in SE FL it's asphalt, concrete and palm trees since nothing else survives over the years through the hurricanes, it's depressing looking.
Easy access to a huge lake (Lanier)
Easy access to the Chattahoochee, which I go kayaking in in the summer. (tons of fun)
In an hours drive you can be in the mountains and get away from it all.
Any store you could ever possibly want is a close drive. (Frys, Microcenter, etc)

Cons:
Traffic is always horrible.
Pollution/smog can be high at times
Pollen/allergens are through the roof in spring.
Crime can be pretty bad in the city, but outside it's fairly low in most areas.

Overall I'd take here over where I lived most of my life in SE FL any day, even when considering I used to live walking distance from the beach down there.

 

[nerp]

A bit expensive and the highway gets jammed from beach traffic in the summer.

 

[erub]

1. Good weather (sure it gets hot, but coming from Phoenix it gets chilly in the winter)
2. Cheap housing from the housing bust - bought a foreclosed condo that was 700k for 176k
3. No state income tax
4. Low property taxes
5. Everyone comes to visit, and then they pay your taxes
6. Easy access to outdoor activities, which you can do pretty much year round, see #1
7. Cheap entertainment
8. World famous chefs to cheap food, and everything in between

Las Vegas, NV

 

[soulcougher73]

Kansas City is a good place to raise children and it is affordable with great schools and the job market is pretty good overall. But if you like to do outdoor things there is not much to do here. No rivers (that youd want to go in), mountains, ocean. It is hot and humid in the summer and cold but not too snowy in the winter. Ive been here 12 years now comign from CA and im looking to move because i enjoy outdoor activities too much.

 

[bignateyk]

Thousands of good looking drunk college sluts.

I'm not sure if that's a pro or a con though. There really isn't much to do here once you move past your binge drinking phase of life. (The age group from 25-35 is non-existent)

 

[StrangeRanger]

Northern Vermont has lots of outdoor activities, great restaurants, tons of great micro-brews, a lot of excellent schools systems, very low crime levels, decent job market, housing is a tad on the high side, clean air and clean water and believe it or not quite a bit of diversity... but we're full up. No more applicants allowed. Please move along.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Hell on Earth
- Smog
- Drug violence
- smelly, greedy old people
- whole neighborhoods sitting vacant from the housing bust (just like the last time)
- poisonous snakes, bugs, spiders, and lizards
- pokey, spiny, jabby plants
- Eleventy billion degrees in the Summer
- Chronic water shortages
- Major thoroughfares and freeways so damn butt ugly it makes you believe in special creation
- Emissions testing

Yep, folks best not come here. Did I mention the pervs working in our schools?

I hated Florida too.

 

[Vonkhan]

The center of the world:

New York City!!!

Pros:

1. Are you kidding me? It's NYC!
2. You never run out of things to do
3. Cheap 24/7 public transport that goes everywhere in the city
4. Best pizza in the world with slices ranging from $1 in St. Mark's place to Nino's Bellissima $1000 pizza (no shit, look it up)
5. Best food in the world - I can eat at Michelin rated restaurants or grab the 99 cent breakfast (2 eggs, potatoes, toast) from Papaya Dog
6. You get to see celebrities acting like regular folk cuz NYCers just don't give a shit or are in too much of a rush
7. Pet friendly - most NYC buildings allow pets. Hell, some dude even had a tiger and a croc in his apartment
8. You can be yourself - I've lived in many different cities across the world, never felt at home until I moved to NYC

Cons:

1. Fuckin tourists - fat redneck families walking abreast, euro-trash trashing starbucks & any other place where they can sit for 3 hours, cheap-shits who try to bargain for everything ranging from cab fares to designer suits, etc
2. Astronomical rents - $1350 for a shoebox studio, ouch
3. I miss driving and having my own car
4. Hollywood destroys NYC in every other disaster movie ... wtf I work in that building, don't jinx me!

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Connecticut has few redeeming qualities

1) shitty weather
2) expensive
3) cant buy beer on sundays

its only redeeming feature is its proximity to good places. I.E. NYC

 

[scott916]

Sacramento, California. It's not New Zealand.

And we have lots of trees.

 

[krylon]

lots of gays

 

[BassBomb]

some nice bike trails nearby at "16 Mile Creek"

 

[tyler811]

I live in Grand Rapids Michigan. Yes, its Michigan so there aren't a ton of jobs but the people in this city are great. Its like a big, small town.

The people are great, its big enough that there is plenty to do, but small enough that we don't have a lot of big city problems.

I do not live in but have been dozens of times. Grand Rapids has an excellent zoo and great museums. Very interesting history and the by the river is very nice.

 

[Ika]

<-- Vancouver

Umm let's see. Beautiful scenery, mild temperate weather, highly authentically multicultural, fantastic food, sporting opertunities galore (wether you like skiing, skating, sailing, hockey, hiking or whatever it's all here), booming film and high tech industries, did I mention beautiful scenery. You can go sight seeing in the morning, hiking/skiing in the afternoon, wine and dine at fine restaurants in the evening and clubbing at night.

Often called the California of the north and for good reason.

Yeah as a con living costs are high. You can't find a detached home for under $800,000 within 15 or 20 mins of the city. And that 800k won't buy you much.

But one look at the main con and no one wants to live there anymore - Canadia.

 

[rh71]

The center of the world:

New York City!!!

So where ya gonna go when you're starting your family?

 

[tyler811]

I've been to Grand Rapids...it's a shit hole with almost no redeeming qualities. I'd have to be making big big money to live there.

This is Grand Rapids you assknot he is talking about not Detroit. Grand Rapids was slum city 15-20 years ago but has since evolved itself into a nice big city feel/small town comfortable. I have been there several times love how they redid it. Kayaking river tubing skiing hiking fishing camping John Ball Zoo is nice and nice museums. Dining out seems to be good. Cannot tell you about the night life as it not my style anymore but I would live there.

Now someone needs to push the handle down and flush Detroit down the river to start over. Detroit could be a beautiful place but corrrupt council and mayors keep getting in the way.