Major decision

[JJChicken]

Found out yesterday that upper management didn't like the salaries we were offered because they were too high compared to what we make now (about $30k), even though new hires off the street would make the $50-60k to start at this company.

So despite the fact that we already had training and experience at the job and were willing to move from PA to CO, because we were paid shit to begin with, they can't justify paying us something decent and what they would pay a brand new guy??? How does this make any sense at all???

We still have the option of moving to CO for the $41k (still on our own dime), or we can work from home where we are now for $41k.

Guess I'll be working from home until I can find a better job...and a company that appreciates me - if those even exist...

that sucks.

But I think one good thing that has come out of this thread is that you should consider moving to another part of America for a while, just to experience a new lifestyle. I think it will be a liberating experience.

 

[Aharami]

^ I agree. get the hell out of your comfort zone. you might hate it...you might not make any new friends and be miserable. In that case, you can always move back. but you might also find yourself having a blast in your new place. you never know until you try, and the longer you wait, the harder it gets to move around

 

[Rezag3000]

just don't take your talents to south beach

 

[pontifex]

that sucks.

But I think one good thing that has come out of this thread is that you should consider moving to another part of America for a while, just to experience a new lifestyle. I think it will be a liberating experience.

how do I move without a job or enough money to do it?

 

[EagleKeeper]

how do I move without a job or enough money to do it?

Increase/expand your talents/skills to make yourself valuable elsewhere.

And if you are working at home; see my post in the other thread on they guy that turned a job in Mass.

 

[RaistlinZ]

^ I agree. get the hell out of your comfort zone. you might hate it...you might not make any new friends and be miserable. In that case, you can always move back. but you might also find yourself having a blast in your new place. you never know until you try, and the longer you wait, the harder it gets to move around

Well, no point moving just for the sake of moving unless he has a job lined up there and enough money to live without a job for a while. Grass isn't always greener just because it's "somewhere else".

 

[jackace]

Colorado is a nice place. Lots of stuff to do there, and like has already been said it's a growing technology hub. If you ever wanted to get out of PA this would be a good way. You could then look for something else in Colorado's more tech oriented economy.

 

[pontifex]

Increase/expand your talents/skills to make yourself valuable elsewhere.

And if you are working at home; see my post in the other thread on they guy that turned a job in Mass.

how does living in a new state expand my talents/skills?

 

[JS80]

how does living in a new state expand my talents/skills?

Moving from a dead state with no industry to a young state with a growing tech base and learning something as simple as relocation (moving, finding an apartment, planning financially) is definitely beginning to expand your talent and skills. And once you're in Denver you will find new opportunities vs staying in arm pit PA.

 

[EagleKeeper]

how does living in a new state expand my talents/skills?

Do not put the cart before the horse.

You presently have a job.

Cross train/ get new skills while at the job. Go to school if needed after work hours. Then those skills will help you get something else - possibly out of state.

 

[pontifex]

Moving from a dead state with no industry to a young state with a growing tech base and learning something as simple as relocation (moving, finding an apartment, planning financially) is definitely beginning to expand your talent and skills. And once you're in Denver you will find new opportunities vs staying in arm pit PA.

i'm not moving to Colorado. i can't afford it with the new salary quoted.

i'm not moving anywhere unless i have a job there that will pay me enough to move. thats final.

 

[BoomerD]

i'm not moving to Colorado. i can't afford it with the new salary quoted.

i'm not moving anywhere unless i have a job there that will pay me enough to move. thats final.

How about applying for one of the jobs at the new hire pay scale instead of transferring?

 

[pontifex]

How about applying for one of the jobs at the new hire pay scale instead of transferring?

it is a job at the new hire pay scale but because they know what that i am working for them now as a contractor at the lower salary they wouldn't do it.

 

[BoomerD]

it is a job at the new hire pay scale but because they know what that i am working for them now as a contractor at the lower salary they wouldn't do it.

If the new job in the new location interests you, it's worth pursuing, IMO.

NEVER take "NO!" as the final answer.

It's up to you to tell/show them why you're worth the extra money if you make the move.

OR, you can just stay where you're at, knowing that the job is about to end. <shrug>

 

[jackace]

Moving from a dead state with no industry to a young state with a growing tech base and learning something as simple as relocation (moving, finding an apartment, planning financially) is definitely beginning to expand your talent and skills. And once you're in Denver you will find new opportunities vs staying in arm pit PA.

Have to agree here. Colorado has a lot more long-term tech prospects compared to PA.

 

[pontifex]

If the new job in the new location interests you, it's worth pursuing, IMO.

NEVER take "NO!" as the final answer.

It's up to you to tell/show them why you're worth the extra money if you make the move.

OR, you can just stay where you're at, knowing that the job is about to end. <shrug>

I bet you must have lots of restraining orders

 

[BoomerD]

I bet you must have lots of restraining orders

:biggrin:

(but no convictions...well, maybe a couple.)

 

[guyver01]

i'm not moving to Colorado. i can't afford it with the new salary quoted.

i'm not moving anywhere unless i have a job there that will pay me enough to move. thats final.

you can easily afford it. $41k is above average out here.
It will cost you less than 5k to move. Rent a Uhaul:

use one of the big U Haul trucks and you can pack your entire house. It took me 2 days to drive from Long Island to Littleton. And two days to unpack the truck.

 

[Hacp]

OP why are you so cautious to move? I have to ask, are you a sex offender?

 

[pontifex]

OP why are you so cautious to move? I have to ask, are you a sex offender?

yes, i'm a sex offender. wtf kind of question is this?

i'm also pretty sure i explained reasons at least once, if not several times, in this thread -starting with the OP.

 

[sandorski]

Have you stopped Sexually Offending yet?

 

[Skunkwourk]

^ I agree. get the hell out of your comfort zone. you might hate it...you might not make any new friends and be miserable. In that case, you can always move back. but you might also find yourself having a blast in your new place. you never know until you try, and the longer you wait, the harder it gets to move around

I also concur. Forgive me if Im wrong, but you've been making your current salary for a while now right? If so you already know what your current situation has to offer, and if you're unhappy, I think moving is worth it. I know it sounds like BS, but you'll only grow as a person if you step outside your comfort zone cause if you're not uncomfortable, you're probably not learning/experiencing anything new.

About the money, sure money isn't everything, but for the sake of discussion, you can also consider working at the new company just for the raise which may help you secure a higher salary in the future.

I've moved twice to new cities without knowing anyone, and although it was hard, I think they were some of the best decisions of my life. Both times I've managed to make a few friends and find new things to enjoy in life.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

you're young....go for it

 

[pontifex]

You guys can say what you want but I'm not moving to CO for $40k. not worth it to me.

I don't have an apartment or house here in PA because I don't think I can afford it. I've looked at the numbers and unless I can get something really cheap (not likely unless it's a roach infested garbage heap) I either can't afford it or it doesn't leave me with much of a buffer, and that's before I add in credit card bills.

I also think renting is a waste of money. I can't seem to justify spending so much money on something I will never own.

My other problem is that I am picky about where I want to live. I really don't want to live in a city or town. I prefer the rural areas.

 

[JJChicken]

You guys can say what you want but I'm not moving to CO for $40k. not worth it to me.

I don't have an apartment or house here in PA because I don't think I can afford it. I've looked at the numbers and unless I can get something really cheap (not likely unless it's a roach infested garbage heap) I either can't afford it or it doesn't leave me with much of a buffer, and that's before I add in credit card bills.

I also think renting is a waste of money. I can't seem to justify spending so much money on something I will never own.

My other problem is that I am picky about where I want to live. I really don't want to live in a city or town. I prefer the rural areas.

How much credit card bills do you have? I would consider paying off your CC debt because the interest rate is too high on those.