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Alienwho

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OP is simply unamerican. A true patriot would take the job, even if it's for $36k. They would trek across to the west, leaving everything they know behind (*cough*, 30 year old man finally moving out of his parents basement). The first thing a true patriot would do on the first day of their new job is hop on the web and revel in the satisfaction of immediately searching for a new job on their Company's dime and justify it because your Company is totally screwing you over.

Seriously OP you're in a rut the size of the grand canyon and you need to find the balls to make a change. Go on an adventure and man up before it gets any worse. You are quickly running out of time to salvage your life.
 

pontifex

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OK, from some of the replies by the OP and others, it sounds like he's afraid to move out of his mom's basement.

Dude, if you "can't" move out for $40k, you'll find excuses not to move out for $60k.

Apparently you're 30 years old? :rolleyes:

Quit leeching off your parents and GTF out of their house.

If you bothered to read the rest of the thread, I said I wasn't opposed to moving to CO and I was actually looking forward to it.

I don't see what age has to do with anything.
I don't leech off my parents. They provide me with a room to live in, that is all. I do everything else myself, pay for everything else myself and help around the house and help pay for things. There is no leeching whatsoever.

Show me where I said I couldn't move out on 40k. I said I wasn't moving to CO for 40k, not that I wouldn't move out of the house.
 

IceBergSLiM

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If you bothered to read the rest of the thread, I said I wasn't opposed to moving to CO and I was actually looking forward to it.

I don't see what age has to do with anything.
I don't leech off my parents. They provide me with a room to live in, that is all. I do everything else myself, pay for everything else myself and help around the house and help pay for things. There is no leeching whatsoever.

Show me where I said I couldn't move out on 40k. I said I wasn't moving to CO for 40k, not that I wouldn't move out of the house.

prove it. Move out of the house with or without the new job.
 

alkemyst

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If you bothered to read the rest of the thread, I said I wasn't opposed to moving to CO and I was actually looking forward to it.

I don't see what age has to do with anything.
I don't leech off my parents. They provide me with a room to live in, that is all. I do everything else myself, pay for everything else myself and help around the house and help pay for things. There is no leeching whatsoever.

Show me where I said I couldn't move out on 40k. I said I wasn't moving to CO for 40k, not that I wouldn't move out of the house.

You should have jumped at the $60k offer you got at first.

You seem to be doing a lot of double-speak here which is confusing. You are contracting for the company, but say (and it's accurate technically) you don't work for them.

You say you have been looking for a year and half for a job but haven't found any. Yet you are in a contract position.

Most of use assumed when you said your friends and family are there, you weren't actually living with family.

Here's the honest deal. Your company is offering home jobs only because any company does this when they relocate due to the fact that if they fired everyone or everyone quit they would be fucked.

So what they do is offer a nice relocation package (usually only too the ones they really want to move, along with a few they plan to terminate shortly after). This may not include any relocation assistance. Sadly this is like our pensions today....

Those that quickly buy in and move become the new trainer's for local hires. Those that tough it out are offered usually a slight demotion to work at home and still keep their job.

Once the critical mass is built those working at home recieve a registered letter telling them "thanks, be advised the paycheck you will receive next week [or included with the letter] is your last. You are no longer needed. kthxbyebye!"

I'd have taken the jump. When you first move out you don't know where anything is really anyway. It's not like you are going to die of starvation trying to find the grocery store there.

In the end you really aren't in a bad situation at all. You live at home still. While you are not a leech now...become unemployed and you know your parent's will not let you just die.

30+ years ago at 18 or after college you were told even by the best of parent's to move out. Some gave you your first 'bank account', some sent you to whatever college you got into whether by payment or grades, some sent you to the military, some got you a job with the family business or made that phone call to one of their 'people' about their kid that needs his first job, but not many allowed you to stay.
 
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pontifex

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I don't know why I'm doing this...but here are your answers, the same ones that have been in the thread all along.

You should have jumped at the $60k offer you got at first.

I did go for the offer of $60k. But while waiting for the paperwork, the company lowered it to the low 40k range and we still haven't received a set offer.

You seem to be doing a lot of double-speak here which is confusing. You are contracting for the company, but say (and it's accurate technically) you don't work for them.
I work for company A which is contracted to Company B. Company B is canceling the contract with company A because they are going to do support in house. Since the employees at company A are trained in the job that company B is doing itself now, they naturally want to hire some people who are already trained and have experience.

You say you have been looking for a year and half for a job but haven't found any. Yet you are in a contract position.
I took this job a year and a half ago. I have been looking for another job since then and have not found one.

Most of use assumed when you said your friends and family are there, you weren't actually living with family.
What does this matter?

Here's the honest deal. Your company is offering home jobs only because any company does this when they relocate due to the fact that if they fired everyone or everyone quit they would be fucked.

So what they do is offer a nice relocation package (usually only too the ones they really want to move, along with a few they plan to terminate shortly after). This may not include any relocation assistance. Sadly this is like our pensions today....

Those that quickly buy in and move become the new trainer's for local hires. Those that tough it out are offered usually a slight demotion to work at home and still keep their job.

Once the critical mass is built those working at home recieve a registered letter telling them "thanks, be advised the paycheck you will receive next week [or included with the letter] is your last. You are no longer needed. kthxbyebye!"

I'd have taken the jump. When you first move out you don't know where anything is really anyway. It's not like you are going to die of starvation trying to find the grocery store there.

I was taking the jump. everyone that was offered the job was offered 50-60k to go to CO. upper management found out that we make half that now and decided to lower it because they didn't want to pay that much. Even people who immediately jumped at the offer with no thought at all got shafted also.

In the end you really aren't in a bad situation at all. You live at home still. While you are not a leech now...become unemployed and you know your parent's will not let you just die.

I went on unemployment at the beginning of 2009 for 2 months because I got laid off from my previous job and still did not leech. nothing changed except I didn't go to work.

30+ years ago at 18 or after college you were told even by the best of parent's to move out. Some gave you your first 'bank account', some sent you to whatever college you got into whether by payment or grades, some sent you to the military, some got you a job with the family business or made that phone call to one of their 'people' about their kid that needs his first job, but not many allowed you to stay.
I don't give a shit about 30 years ago. If you haven't noticed, we are not living 30 years ago.
 
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pontifex

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prove it. Move out of the house with or without the new job.

You have no room to talk. I've seen your threads.

How am I going to move out without a job? if I can't afford a fucking place with the job I have now, how am I going to afford a place while on unemployment?

Besides, what do I need to prove to some internet jackass?
 
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alkemyst

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I don't know why I'm doing this...but here are your answers, the same ones that have been in the thread all along.

you are leeching though. Is housing not a substantial cost to you?

sounds like you are just dragging your feet because you want the perfect job in order to finally move out.

I have a buddy the same way. His parent's couldn't take it anymore and sent him to manhattan to live and cover his $10k/month condo. His older brother moved out at 18 and is an airline mechanic, but does shit on his own.

In this economy $40k for a job is not terrible since it's in the paygrade you have worked for. Relocation costs should be a non-factor for someone that doesn't even own their own place. You are using it as an excuse.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I made a few posts that you either didn't see or didn't want to respond to, but I am going to ask the question again: Have you applied at jobs in major cities in your area? What about Philly and Pittsburgh, for example?

I have a friend that got fed up working help desk for a local school system so she sent out resumes and she is probably going to end up with a minimum of 2, if not 3, job offers. The economy may suck but the jobs are out there if you look. You should apply in major cities in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, and Kentucky, as those would be close enough to drive home to see your family.
 

ultimatebob

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I made a few posts that you either didn't see or didn't want to respond to, but I am going to ask the question again: Have you applied at jobs in major cities in your area? What about Philly and Pittsburgh, for example?

I have a friend that got fed up working help desk for a local school system so she sent out resumes and she is probably going to end up with a minimum of 2, if not 3, job offers. The economy may suck but the jobs are out there if you look. You should apply in major cities in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, and Kentucky, as those would be close enough to drive home to see your family.

I'd add New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut to that list as well. There are tons of IT jobs out here that pay WAY more than $36K a year.

Hell... I've had an open QA analyst position at the company that work for in Connecticut over three months now. It seems that I can't find a talented software tester with UNIX and SQL experience for under 100K a year around here :(
 

IceBergSLiM

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Jul 11, 2000
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You have no room to talk. I've seen your threads.

How am I going to move out without a job? if I can't afford a fucking place with the job I have now, how am I going to afford a place while on unemployment?

Besides, what do I need to prove to some internet jackass?

rather be an internet jackass than a real-life failure who is 30 years old with a shit paying dead end job never having left my momma's house. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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rather be an internet jackass than a real-life failure who is 30 years old with a shit paying dead end job never having left my momma's house. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

again, i've seen your posts and you have no room to talk.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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you are leeching though. Is housing not a substantial cost to you?

sounds like you are just dragging your feet because you want the perfect job in order to finally move out.

I have a buddy the same way. His parent's couldn't take it anymore and sent him to manhattan to live and cover his $10k/month condo. His older brother moved out at 18 and is an airline mechanic, but does shit on his own.

In this economy $40k for a job is not terrible since it's in the paygrade you have worked for. Relocation costs should be a non-factor for someone that doesn't even own their own place. You are using it as an excuse.

I'm not looking for the perfect job before I move out, just one that pays me enough so that I'm not living paycheck to paycheck when I do move out. Apartments and houses are expensive if you haven't noticed.

I am taking this job - at 40k or 36k or whatever they offer - since it will be a slight raise at least and I'll be able to continue working. I'm just not going to Colorado to do it.
 

sunzt

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Take the job, experience new things, develop your social skills, find new friends and build new relationships, make more money, get more freedom, and don't be a pansy. Fear is the only thing holding u back and you know it you pansy.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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I made a few posts that you either didn't see or didn't want to respond to, but I am going to ask the question again: Have you applied at jobs in major cities in your area? What about Philly and Pittsburgh, for example?

I have a friend that got fed up working help desk for a local school system so she sent out resumes and she is probably going to end up with a minimum of 2, if not 3, job offers. The economy may suck but the jobs are out there if you look. You should apply in major cities in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, and Kentucky, as those would be close enough to drive home to see your family.

I have started looking in a wider area, not exactly Philly or Pittsburgh areas or other states yet. I plan to though.