MAGA's Manosphere Base exposed by a journalist who dated Right Wingers - Why they want TRADwives

[Indus]

Saw this on the Majority Report

Think this needed it's own thread.. great reporting by her btw!

Shocking?? Not really!!
Deplorables?? Yup!!
Incels?? Yup!!

Least common denominator?? Wanting to punch every woman that doesn't listen or isn't submissive to them!

 

[nakedfrog]

Not interested in watching, is there an article?

 

[Indus]

Can't find a write up.. just tons of comments on threads

 

[Jaskalas]

"Their only support group was online"

Damn. It's a ground level report on how the MAGA Nazi movement expanded in the past 10 years. The internet was not policed and pro-Nazi influencers found their niche. They found victims of our culture who felt isolated and gave them a "support group" which was just a mask over the Nazi movement. It lured them in hook line and sinker. I knew it happened, but this is shining a clearer light on that picture. A testament that it did happen.

 

[Moonbeam]

If I didn't know better I'd say this is just another fucked up situation caused by young men discovering they are useless sexually because of self created insecurity caused by self hate. Just be careful if you try to help them. They will be looking for someone to blame. Trust me on that.

 

[gothuevos]

Definitely feels like there was a generation of dudes that could have used a guy like Worf from Star Trek to teach them the basics of real masculinity and actual stoicism.

Where were the parents?

 

[Jaskalas]

Where were the parents?

For most of American society, parents are absent. Either broken households, or parents are too busy working. School is a process by which your kids are raised by their peers. Now imagine red pill injecting itself into that fabric. Replacing parents with Nazi recruiters. It perfectly explains why women were added to MAGA's DEI hatred. I couldn't quite figure out why other than Taliban comparisons. Turns out, telling men that women are property to be owned and exploited is a valid recruitment strategy in America. And it has been in front of our faces for at least the past decade.

This is the sort of shit our notion of free speech has facilitated. We lacked healthy limitations. Zero checks and balances on the sort of propaganda that can rage in our society. Such freedom has consequences when rot and disease fester and are protected. We failed to see the problem and failed to offer a viable counter narrative to draw people in out of the cold dark abyss.

 

[Pens1566]

Everyone always jokes that it kinda sorta started (or at least grew out of) gamergate. Well ...

 

[MrSquished]

I love smart, independent, and successful women and appreciating all they have to offer, their points of view, and listening to them and conversating with them about life, the universe, and everything. I also really enjoy making them orgasm. It seems to work out well.

 

[Indus]

I love smart, independent, and successful women and appreciating all they have to offer, their points of view, and listening to them and conversating with them about life, the universe, and everything. I also really enjoy making them orgasm. It seems to work out well.

I think its a bit too easy for males to become incels in America. I was there..

When the 2008 fiscal crisis happened and I went overseas and I went from getting laid once in a while to getting laid once a day on average.

I think it's culture.. foreigners are a lot less up tight about casual sex.

I had a friend who went to Mexico tell me about this but I thought he was just talking about hookers.. till I experienced it myself.. nope.. not hookers.. don't even pay them.

I do realize one thing though.. had I not gone overseas, with my high sex drive.. I could have very easily fallen prey to the manosphere.. but rather than listen to MAGA and long conservative podcasts.. I always preferred gaming!

I never blamed the women though. Maybe it's our culture.. we work so much and we're tired.. too tired!

 

[Indus]

Just had another thought.. just because someone is incel.. it doesn't mean they want a trad wife.

I think Tradwives or wanting one is strictly MAGA incel phenomenon where they're wanting women that THEY CAN CONTROL 24/7.


I don't know what the %'s are but I think they'll be high.

 

[Muse]

Manospheres is not a problem of mine except perhaps in some degree because I figure that these forums are dominated by males considerably and I spend a fair amount of time here.

I've always gotten along well with females (I've never tried to control any woman), I suppose in part because my brother was 6 years older than myself and left the house when I was 12. Also, my father worked a whole lot, left the house at 6AM and got home around 8PM. That left me with my mother and sister a lot of the time.

I encountered a guy briefly who was a kind of refugee in America by virtue of his being a Vietnam Vet and was at that time alienated. We had a conversation and his parting message to me (I've never forgotten it) was "stay away from the white boys." It came as a surprise, what we had talked about didn't presuppose such a statement. However, I thought he definitely had something there!

 

[ch33zw1z]

Definitely feels like there was a generation of dudes that could have used a guy like Worf from Star Trek to teach them the basics of real masculinity and actual stoicism.

Where were the parents?

Working multiple jobs to make ends meet, or working long hours at a single job. This isnt by accident, its by design.

 

[Moonbeam]

Definitely feels like there was a generation of dudes that could have used a guy like Worf from Star Trek to teach them the basics of real masculinity and actual stoicism.

Where were the parents?

If you knew anything about what it might be to be a "Real Man" something I have a hunch isn't anything we think about in our society as being that, and if you were willing to mentor the lost of our generation, I have the suspicion that liberals would call you a Nazi. They certainly thought that of Jordan Peterson who seemed to have something like that in mind. It's hard to discuss that person though because I don't know what the individual I mentioned favors as a personal pronoun.but I think 'he' would probably work.

 

[Greenman]

And CNN completes it's conversion into the Maury Povich show.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Definitely feels like there was a generation of dudes that could have used a guy like Worf from Star Trek to teach them the basics of real masculinity and actual stoicism.

Where were the parents?

Can confirm. Grew up in a broken home, Michael Dorn was an inspiration, even if Worf wasn't the best father (in his defense Alexander sucked).

 

[ch33zw1z]

And CNN completes it's conversion into the Maury Povich show.

He mad.

 

[zinfamous]

Can't find a write up.. just tons of comments on threads

then summarize. no one wants to watch videos.

 

[brycejones]

And CNN completes it's conversion into the Maury Povich show.

Says the guy who likes fox’s hard hitting journalism into the color of the presidents suit or type of mustard used.

 

[ch33zw1z]

then summarize. no one wants to watch videos.

Its exactly what you think it is, description of a modern male looking desperately for validation and finding it with a group of people who see others as simply their possessions. Not as fellow humans in tje struggle, but objects that you not only cam control, but should control.

The woman describes a “political” meeting she was invited to attend, which Essentially boiled down to a bunch of dudes complaining about their women (gf’s or wives). Shes basically like you dont need a bitch session, you need actual therapy

 

[DZero]

I only read that the MAGA base are neo axis psychos who supports Putin and the tyrants

 

[fskimospy]

Everyone always jokes that it kinda sorta started (or at least grew out of) gamergate. Well ...

Wait, I thought that was about ethics in games journalism!

 

[pmv]

"Their only support group was online"

Damn. It's a ground level report on how the MAGA Nazi movement expanded in the past 10 years. The internet was not policed and pro-Nazi influencers found their niche. They found victims of our culture who felt isolated and gave them a "support group" which was just a mask over the Nazi movement. It lured them in hook line and sinker. I knew it happened, but this is shining a clearer light on that picture. A testament that it did happen.

Yeah, from personal experience I suspect that's what happens - the same for the far-right as for Islamists. They offer 'support' to people who have had a bad time for complicated interpersonal reasons, and then give them an easy explanation for their problems, with a particular group to blame.

My feeling is that in many cases those radicalised like that do have justifiable grievances, but the groups they end up blaming for the hard-time they've had are not the correct ones - they are just the easiest groups to target.

I'm kind of aware though that I might be being inconsistent or hypocritical in that belief. I have existing ideas as to who I blame for my problems (I have my 'issues', but they have very complicated roots). I've just found that my personal "shit list" tends not to match the list of those that the MAGA/Incel types I've encountered have told me I'm supposed to blame.

 

[Pens1566]

Wait, I thought that was about ethics in games journalism!

That "ethics in games journalism" is just latin for "unfuckable dorks that can't understand why women don't want to touch them and then get angry about it and take it out on the world instead of looking at themselves in the mirror and realizing no one really wants to even be around them".

 

[Moonbeam]

Its exactly what you think it is, description of a modern male looking desperately for validation and finding it with a group of people who see others as simply their possessions. Not as fellow humans in tje struggle, but objects that you not only cam control, but should control.

The woman describes a “political” meeting she was invited to attend, which Essentially boiled down to a bunch of dudes complaining about their women (gf’s or wives). Shes basically like you dont need a bitch session, you need actual therapy

Something I found off putting about the video by woman one about woman two, out of respect I should use but won’t spend the time to learn their names, and a video about how the young men in question that women two dated had all these dismissive and irrationally negative attitudes and complaints towards women generally, in the video actually dismisses something woman two said as incorrect without the slightest explanation of why. Talk about intellectual arrogance. Perhaps I am wrong but in my observation women can also be their own worst enemies.