Mad Dog Mattis doesn't like Baby in Chief

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GoodRevrnd

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Callouts from sec def, chairman joint chiefs, and navy admirals and no Twitter tirade. I feel we've been deprived.
 

theeedude

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I am just glad the military is telling Trump to FOAD and that they won't kill Americans for him. You can't be a real dictator if the military won't kill your own people for you.
Even Esper understands where this is going. That Trump will eventually order him to use the military to target Americans but when sh!t hits the fan, accept no responsibility, and make Esper the fall guy, and that he's better off getting fired now than going down that road.
 

brycejones

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Wonder how long it will take for Mattis to be labeled a leftist.
He always, just pretending to not be. Total snake in the grass. One time in school he watched Kennedy speak, should have been disqualified for any post after that. Totally lied on his background check about it to the corrupt FBI so it wasn't discovered and they protected one of their own deep state liberal plants.
 

DAPUNISHER

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He always, just pretending to not be. Total snake in the grass. One time in school he watched Kennedy speak, should have been disqualified for any post after that. Totally lied on his background check about it to the corrupt FBI so it wasn't discovered and they protected one of their own deep state liberal plants.
After reading QAnon garbage like the Cash Cab guy killed Floyd, your post isn't even satirical to me. It reads more prophetic.
 
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TheVrolok

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He needs to stand on a stage with Biden and/or anyone that is opposing Trump directly.
Doubt he will. He was once in a position to exert more influence and instead he's writing a letter now. Too little too late General.
 
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Doubt he will. He was once in a position to exert more influence and instead he's writing a letter now. Too little too late General.

He should because as I said earlier words are nice, action is needed.
He stood on stage with the President, he should stand on stage with Biden if invited to make things “right”
Woman I know whom is in the military appears to respect Mattis a lot. I am sure there are more like her.
 
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TheVrolok

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He should because as I said earlier words are nice, action is needed.
He stood on stage with the President, he should stand on stage with Biden if invited to make things “right”
Woman I know whom is in the military appears to respect Mattis a lot. I am sure there are more like her.
I agree that he should, but I have little faith.
 
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VRAMdemon

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Doubt he will. He was once in a position to exert more influence and instead he's writing a letter now. Too little too late General.

Shame on Mattis for playing a role in normalizing Trump. He waited to long to say something like this. But in his resignation letter he made it clear that Trump is an idiot.

It's also important now that he is essentially saying that people in the armed forces should not follow the commands of Trump, but rather their constitutional oath. And this is directed at all levels of the forces, top to bottom. And that message is really needed right now.

Getting a former cabinet member to oppose Trump, unequivocal, on the record, is huge. I'm taking it as a win. More need to do this.
 

brycejones

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After reading QAnon garbage like the Cash Cab guy killed Floyd, your post isn't even satirical to me. It reads more prophetic.
I know, its damn near impossible to do satire anymore. I have props to the Onion for still finding a way to do it. What's sad is their shit from a few years ago reads more like history than satire now.

Another 2020 campaign slogan.

Make satire real again!

Biden 2020
 

TheVrolok

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Shame on Mattis for playing a role in normalizing Trump. He waited to long to say something like this. But in his resignation letter he made it clear that Trump is an idiot.

It's also important now that he is essentially saying that people in the armed forces should not follow the commands of Trump, but rather their constitutional oath. And this is directed at all levels of the forces, top to bottom. And that message is really needed right now.

Getting a former cabinet member to oppose Trump, unequivocal, on the record, is huge. I'm taking it as a win. More need to do this.
It's absolutely a good thing, I just wish he had found the courage earlier.
 

trenchfoot

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Looks like Mattis stood up when it really mattered to him that the military, the military he was a leader of, the military that he put his heart and soul into for decades was potentially going to be exploited by an incompetent self-centered wanna-be autocrat who has this misguided notion that he can do as he pleases with everything the gov't has at its disposal, including an armed forces meant to serve the people and definitely not the dictatorial whims of a tyrant.

Mattis got a real close look at Trump and his defective mind when he was in Trump's inner circle. Mattis, realizing what a narcissistic moron Trump is, has spoken up for those members of the military who by law and by moral/ethical code cannot criticize their CIC. He is defending them and hopefully preventing them from having to experience the conflict between obeying an unlawful order from their CIC or openly disobeying that order to wage war against their own fellow Americans.

From this point of view, his timing was perfect and for all the right reasons.
 
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HomerJS

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I think that's premature judgement. I think a lot of Trump voters are coming around to the idea that they made a huge mistake. Not that they're necessarily ready to say so, pride & loyalty being what they are, but they're not ready to vote for the guy again, either. We'll never win them all, of course, simply because decades of right wing mind rot make some unreachable.

Really? Name two!


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HomerJS

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Is this where Moscow Mitch and Friends start to really consider cutting this moron loose? This just keeps getting more and more serious.

Mattis, Esper, governors, religious people he and Barr just horrified with the church stunt... these cracks are adding up. Economy in free fall and 109k+ dead Americans from covid19, and this dipshit would rather rage tweet and threaten American citizens with the military? Some F'd up times we live in.

They have chosen him over the Constitution already, but let's see how Jim Mattis putting it quite plainly makes certain exhausted Congress critters feel. More cracks I bet. Guy's got clout. Would have been nice to have heard this a few years ago though.

Esper and Barr helped Trump implement the citizens attack in DC


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theeedude

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Child, please.
“The president did not fire him. He did not ask for his resignation,” Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general, said in an interview. “The president has clearly forgotten how it actually happened or is confused. The president tweeted a very positive tweet about Jim until he started to see on Fox News their interpretation of his letter. Then he got nasty. Jim Mattis is a honorable man.”