MacBook Air announced

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: Pabster
I'm in the minority, apparently, but I like it. A lot!

I could care less about the loss of an optical. I've got several USB cd/dvd units if I ever really needed it.

Price is a tad high, but there's nothing like it out there. What do you expect?

I'm with you as well, I think it's great. Just wish there was builtin WWAN of some sort. $3100 with an SSD is highway robbery though.

No RAM upgrade (2gb max)
No Firewire
No ExpressCard port

Eh...how am I supposed to run a VM? How am I supposed to hook up my shiny new Firewire HD camcorder? Without the ExpressCard port I can't even expand it to add Firewire...what the heck?

It's meant to be a strictly ultraportable machine...Steve would tell you to buy ANOTHER Mac to do that stuff!

One other thing though, as Modeps said, I'm worried about the speed of that 1.8" HD. We have a couple Dell Latitudes with them, and they're pretty damn pokey.

Yeah and while SSDs have great read speed, their write speed isn't too hot based off the reviews I've read.

But come on, throw me a bone...there's absolutely no way to connect a Firewire device?

 

[Kaido]

Whoa, yuck:

Your MacBook Air comes standard with a Parallel ATA (PATA) 4200-rpm hard drive. Or you can choose a solid-state drive that delivers faster performance and greater durability.

 

[LtPage1]

Damn. Sounds like the way to go with this thing is to wait a couple of years until SSDs come way down in price.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: Modeps
they be out their FUCKING minds... $3k for the SSD model.

well, given the dell 32GB ssd upgrade is like $600, 64GB would be maybe $1000, add apple mark up, $1300 extra is just about right.

neat concept, and "looks" great, but give me my eee PC. if that HD is a 4200rpm drive, it's useless. I ran 10.3 on a 4200rpm drive and I HATED it. I hate it on any laptop really.

I'll take an eeePC please.. just need a web box for portability anyway.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: Kaido
Whoa, yuck:

Your MacBook Air comes standard with a Parallel ATA (PATA) 4200-rpm hard drive. Or you can choose a solid-state drive that delivers faster performance and greater durability.

Yeah, the more I think on it, the more I think I should ask my boss to buy me 5 eeePC's

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Wonder how hax0r safe this Remote Disk thing is? Could it be altered to access other drives remotely?

http://www.apple.com/macbookair/wireless.html

Remote Disk is a joke. It's for clueless users who don't understand how to share a drive.

 

[Kaido]

What processor is this? A Penryn or something else?

 

[RichieZ]

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: Modeps
they be out their FUCKING minds... $3k for the SSD model.

well, given the dell 32GB ssd upgrade is like $600, 64GB would be maybe $1000, add apple mark up, $1300 extra is just about right.

neat concept, and "looks" great, but give me my eee PC. if that HD is a 4200rpm drive, it's useless. I ran 10.3 on a 4200rpm drive and I HATED it. I hate it on any laptop really.

I'll take an eeePC please.. just need a web box for portability anyway.

the upgrade fmor the 80GB 4200PATA disk to the 64GB SSD is $500. The $1300 difference is that between the low spec vs high spec macbook air, you get a faster processor and some other things I assume. Didn't look closely as I'm not in the market

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: Kaido
Whoa, yuck:

Your MacBook Air comes standard with a Parallel ATA (PATA) 4200-rpm hard drive. Or you can choose a solid-state drive that delivers faster performance and greater durability.

Yeah, the more I think on it, the more I think I should ask my boss to buy me 5 eeePC's

Honestly dude...I think I might just got Hackintosh and use the Dell M1330 13" LED laptop...this is awfully tempting but the 2-gig cap is just wrong.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: RichieZ

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: Modeps
they be out their FUCKING minds... $3k for the SSD model.

well, given the dell 32GB ssd upgrade is like $600, 64GB would be maybe $1000, add apple mark up, $1300 extra is just about right.

neat concept, and "looks" great, but give me my eee PC. if that HD is a 4200rpm drive, it's useless. I ran 10.3 on a 4200rpm drive and I HATED it. I hate it on any laptop really.

I'll take an eeePC please.. just need a web box for portability anyway.

the upgrade fmor the 80GB 4200PATA disk to the 64GB SSD is $500. The $1300 difference is that between the low spec vs high spec macbook air, you get a faster processor and some other things I assume. Didn't look closely as I'm not in the market

$999 SSD option on the 1.6ghz. At least they're finally starting to integrate into the market!

 

[RichieZ]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: RichieZ

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: Modeps
they be out their FUCKING minds... $3k for the SSD model.

well, given the dell 32GB ssd upgrade is like $600, 64GB would be maybe $1000, add apple mark up, $1300 extra is just about right.

neat concept, and "looks" great, but give me my eee PC. if that HD is a 4200rpm drive, it's useless. I ran 10.3 on a 4200rpm drive and I HATED it. I hate it on any laptop really.

I'll take an eeePC please.. just need a web box for portability anyway.

the upgrade fmor the 80GB 4200PATA disk to the 64GB SSD is $500. The $1300 difference is that between the low spec vs high spec macbook air, you get a faster processor and some other things I assume. Didn't look closely as I'm not in the market

$999 SSD option on the 1.6ghz. At least they're finally starting to integrate into the market!

i swear i read it as $500... store seems to be down right now. but either way too much

ok back up yea its $999, ridiculous

 

[Kaido]

I smell a hack coming on:

http://www.samsung.com/global/...&model_cd=266&tab=fea#

120gb 5400rpm 1.8" hard drive

 

[Kaido]

120gb 1.8" for $205 on eBay:

http://item.express.ebay.com/C...Z1192QQcmdZExpressItem

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: Kaido
Whoa, yuck:

Your MacBook Air comes standard with a Parallel ATA (PATA) 4200-rpm hard drive. Or you can choose a solid-state drive that delivers faster performance and greater durability.

Yeah, the more I think on it, the more I think I should ask my boss to buy me 5 eeePC's

Honestly dude...I think I might just got Hackintosh and use the Dell M1330 13" LED laptop...this is awfully tempting but the 2-gig cap is just wrong.

The 1330 is a great laptop. It isn't as pretty as the MBA, but I really, really like it. We have 2 we work with...maybe I'll just go with one of them with builtin WWAN.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: Kaido
Whoa, yuck:

Your MacBook Air comes standard with a Parallel ATA (PATA) 4200-rpm hard drive. Or you can choose a solid-state drive that delivers faster performance and greater durability.

Yeah, the more I think on it, the more I think I should ask my boss to buy me 5 eeePC's

Honestly dude...I think I might just got Hackintosh and use the Dell M1330 13" LED laptop...this is awfully tempting but the 2-gig cap is just wrong.

The 1330 is a great laptop. It isn't as pretty as the MBA, but I really, really like it. We have 2 we work with...maybe I'll just go with one of them with builtin WWAN.

Hackintosh works great with them...a few things don't work (card reader, built-in Ethernet), but nothing that can't be solved with USB adapters. I'll keep my eye out for reviews of the Air though...

 

[BRObedoza]

i like it, but no replaceable battery? eff that :thumbsdown:

 

[luv2liv]

3lbs???
i was hoping it would be 1.5lbs to beat the toshiba r500 weighting in at 1.7lbs without opt drive.
what a dissapointment!
thickness doesnt matter. its the weight that matters to people like me lugging laptops all day.

 

[Oil]

And I thought they were actually going to do a replacement to the PB 12":
12" with discrete GPU

 

[aphex]

I was really excited when I first saw it, but the reality sets in.

$1800
No user replaceable battery ($130 from apple and you lose your laptop for 5 days - and all your data) -
No expandable ram
4200rpm HD
Mono Speaker
No Firewire

Sorry, but Macbook (normal) here I come.

 

[aphex]

http://www.apple.com/support/m...okair/service/battery/

United States $129

Will the data on my MacBook Air be preserved?
Don't rely on it being preserved. Many repairs require Apple to replace or reformat the hard disk, which will result in the loss of your data. Please make sure you back up your data on a regular basis to minimize your data loss. .Mac members may download and use Backup to save an archive of their data to a series of CDs. Apple and its AASPs are not responsible for any damage to or loss of any applications, data, or other information stored on your MacBook Air while performing service.

How long will battery replacement service take?
The repair process normally takes 5 business days.

So once a year you get to send your laptop in for a week, lose all your data, and pay $130? Fuck that apple, no way.

 

[touchmyichi]

You guys are all missing the point. In order for a computer this small to be made, you have to make compromises at some point. I know, they didn't necessarily have to make all of them, but you really can't have everything if you want to make a computer like this. Seriously, for laptops I really don't care about how powerful they are but rather how portable they are. I have my home PC to do all the 1337 computing for me and I would rather have something lighter which I would be more inclined to bring around with me. Right now, my 4 pound Sony S360 is even a little inconvenient. Also, the compromises aren't that bad.

No CD/DVD drive? I don't really care too much, I rarely use mine anyways.
Can't replace ram? 2GB should be sufficient for most use anyways.

Oh and as the 13.3 inch screen over the 12, I completely agree with the choice. I've always felt that a 13.3 is a world of difference over a 12.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: touchmyichi
You guys are all missing the point. In order for a computer this small to be made, you have to make compromises at some point. I know, they didn't necessarily have to make all of them, but you really can't have everything if you want to make a computer like this. Seriously, for laptops I really don't care about how powerful they are but rather how portable they are. I have my home PC to do all the 1337 computing for me and I would rather have something lighter which I would be more inclined to bring around with me. Right now, my 4 pound Sony S360 is even a little inconvenient. Also, the compromises aren't that bad.

No CD/DVD drive? I don't really care too much, I rarely use mine anyways.
Can't replace ram? 2GB should be sufficient for most use anyways.

Oh and as the 13.3 inch screen over the 12, I completely agree with the choice. I've always felt that a 13.3 is a world of difference over a 12.

Honestly though, there is a limit on how many compromises most users are willing to take.

Most of the things you mentioned are fine for an ultra portable machine... What isn't, IMO, is a non-user replaceable battery.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: aphex
Honestly though, there is a limit on how many compromises most users are willing to take.

Most of the things you mentioned are fine for an ultra portable machine... What isn't, IMO, is a non-user replaceable battery.

agreed very much. the HDD killed it for me.. then this was just icing on the cake. well, the price too, because what I really want is an Eee PC 2.0.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: aphex
Honestly though, there is a limit on how many compromises most users are willing to take.

Most of the things you mentioned are fine for an ultra portable machine... What isn't, IMO, is a non-user replaceable battery.

agreed very much. the HDD killed it for me.. then this was just icing on the cake. well, the price too, because what I really want is an Eee PC 2.0.

I think im gonna go for the base macbook and just load it up myself, superdrive, 200gb 7200rpm drive, 4gb ram

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: touchmyichi
You guys are all missing the point. In order for a computer this small to be made, you have to make compromises at some point. I know, they didn't necessarily have to make all of them, but you really can't have everything if you want to make a computer like this. Seriously, for laptops I really don't care about how powerful they are but rather how portable they are. I have my home PC to do all the 1337 computing for me and I would rather have something lighter which I would be more inclined to bring around with me. Right now, my 4 pound Sony S360 is even a little inconvenient. Also, the compromises aren't that bad.

No CD/DVD drive? I don't really care too much, I rarely use mine anyways.
Can't replace ram? 2GB should be sufficient for most use anyways.

Oh and as the 13.3 inch screen over the 12, I completely agree with the choice. I've always felt that a 13.3 is a world of difference over a 12.

Honestly though, there is a limit on how many compromises most users are willing to take.

Most of the things you mentioned are fine for an ultra portable machine... What isn't, IMO, is a non-user replaceable battery.

Ordinarily I could ittch and moan about RAM, the HD, and others (battery as well), but the real killer in my eyes now is the WWAN, or rather, lack of it. This day in age is one filled with the proliferation of the PUBLIC WAP but in the end a secure WWAN is what many customers want.

2GB will be enough for the intended purpose.
the SSD will be fine (yes the HD is crap)
screen and keyboard a nice.

WLAN is a PITA if you want secure communication for novices

 

[miniMUNCH]

I'm just waiting for an incremental update to the imac...