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Capt Caveman said:
At my last company, Finance/Accounting used PCs, Researchers/Scientists/Mgmt used Macs, IT was 50/50.

Current place, mostly PC but many of the developers and network folks have been switching to Macs.
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Around 70% of the devs at my work use Macs. Much higher than I would have thought.
 
bfdd said:
Yup, most of them are idiots too. All I'm saying is I've run across MANY of people claiming to be Windows power users who bitch about viruses and adware. Point to me a single Windows power user who has an issue with those.... The last virus I got was 8 years ago and I installed it intentionally.
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I know a lot of "power users" who claim they've never had a virus or malware because they're "power users" when a person say that I always offer up a $20 bet that they have at least 1 piece of mal or riskware on their PC. If they take me up I install Hitmanpro + Spybot on their box, I've done this maybe a dozen times, and only lost twice.
 
QueBert said:
I know a lot of "power users" who claim they've never had a virus or malware because they're "power users" when a person say that I always offer up a $20 bet that they have at least 1 piece of mal or riskware on their PC. If they take me up I install Hitmanpro + Spybot on their box, I've done this maybe a dozen times, and only lost twice.
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I've never had a virus. Never heard of hitmanpro, but I will install/update/run av software about once a year, never a catch.
 
Obsy said:
Serious? I find it pretty hard to get anything through the MBP's vent by accident, and there aren't really any other openings on it.
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yup. no idea how it got in past the hinge but it did, they must have forced it in there to try and help absorb the moisture

('10 macbook vent in question)
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QueBert said:
I know a lot of "power users" who claim they've never had a virus or malware because they're "power users" when a person say that I always offer up a $20 bet that they have at least 1 piece of mal or riskware on their PC. If they take me up I install Hitmanpro + Spybot on their box, I've done this maybe a dozen times, and only lost twice.
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Lol. spybot is fun.
 
OOOh look at me I do tech support and love windows. You'll learn unix when you grow up.

The only real discussion is Linux vs *BSD vs Darwin vs Solaris. With these windows threads, all I see is kids arguing about some windows themes or something.
 
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iGas said:
Mac is proprietor, therefor most people don't mess with it.

Linux is opensource, hence most people mess around with it.
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ORLY?

I do realize that I'm arguing with 16 year old kids here, but darwin ports repo has essentially anything that you can get from portage/APT
 
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iGas said:
Mac is proprietor, therefor most people don't mess with it.

Linux is opensource, hence most people mess around with it.
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wrong

the Darwin kernel that Mac OS X and iOS is based on has been opensourced years ago by Apple, it is one of the very few certified UNIX kernels in existence today and really the only one in active development and "widespread" deployment.
Linux and BSD descendants (some of darwin is borrowed from BSD) are only unix-like, not unix certified.

http://www.opensource.apple.com/ here you can find lists of all opensource projects that are part of Mac OS X and iOS, quite a bit of them developed and then opensourced by Apple.

granted, some parts (albeit quite important parts) of Mac OS and iOS are proprietary but so are some parts of some linux distros.
 
deanx0r said:
Many Mac users are power users that use to run Windows PCs.

I have noticed that many PC power users (on tech forums) tend to focus solely on what their machine can do while Mac users focus on how and what they can do on their machine.

The PC vs Mac debate can be funny, and there are fanboys on both side. But the trend I see as a PC and Mac guy is that there are many pretentious PC guys who constantly need to validate themselves.
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100% true for me. I used to run linux full time (last 5-7 years at least). I would spend a lot of time working on my computers. I also had a gaming machine and I'd spend a lot of time working on that computer to tweak out every little thing.

Now I own a mac. I use it to get my work done. It is amazing. I've also converted at least 10 people including the developers on my team, my CIO, and a few other people in my IT department. Most of them were just like me and exclaimed "Wait, you mean it's like linux without all the bullshit? Count me in!"

Prior to my first macbook (which I actually bought to run linux) I would downplay mac's as computers for stupid people and didn't believe the OS to be a real useful system. I was a fool.

That said, I'll be going back to linux soon. I'm not a big fan of apple. I like OSX, but apple is really starting to get a bit too overbearing.
 
HAL9000 said:
It's not a closed system, the hardware it runs on is what it's written for, it's not designed to be used on anything else so what would that be a problem for? If you are building computers, use a different OS, if you want to buy a laptop or something, why not OSX? Nothing else is wrong with it. It's just Linux written to run on specific hardware.
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Which is why it is a CLOSED system.
 
amdhunter said:
I am surprised they went with HP, I would have expected Dell. Also, are the stickers on those laptop Windows Vista? And older Centrino technology?

They need to upgrade.
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Those are elitebooks.

Dell does not make anything quite as rigid.
 
Lean L said:
Those are elitebooks.

Dell does not make anything quite as rigid.
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Ah nice. I am quite fond of the HP ProBooks. We've bought a few Core i7 models here and they are really nice. Just don't ever try to take a hard drive out of one. I couldn't figure it out until I found a video on YouTube lol.
 
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