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HAL9000 said:
I'll give you that as a downside for desktops, but for something like a Mac Mini or an iMac or a MacBook / Pro, there's no downside, the cost reflects the fact that it's a higher end system, it's the equivalent of expensive PC's.
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ROFL

No, a Mac Mini, iMac or MacBook certainly is not comparable to a high end PC.

What are you smoking?
 
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sourceninja said:
I don't know about towers, but I have yet to find a HP, Dell, Acer, etc notebook that has near the refinement of my macbook pro.

So much in fact that I bought my macbook pro not for OSX, but for it's design. I originally planned to put linux on it.
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Interesting. I'm sitting here with my Dell XPS laptop which I prefer far more than any MacBook that I've ever used.
 
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HAL9000 said:
1) I need a good CLI
2) I want software than runs near perfectly on the hardware it was written for
3) I want to choose my OS, if I want OSX that's fine, If I also want Windows, that's fine too. If I want a Linux distro, that's fine too. I can do all of those as well as they can be done, on a MacBook.
4) Good customer service, if and when I need it.
5) Good interconnectivity between my devices, my iPhone, my iPad, my Mac's.
7) It just works.

I don't care about what it costs, I just want the best computer that meets the criteria I need it for.
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1 - What do you need a CLI for? You still have a CLI in windows if you really want one, however you don't really need one anymore.

2 - All of my software runs perfectly on my PC.

3 - I can run all of those OSes on my PC. I can also run them in VM's if I care to.

4 - I don't need customer service. In the event of a piece of hardware failing, I purchase quality hardware from quality manufacturers and nearly all of my hardware has at least a 3 year warranty. But I haven't had anything break before I upgraded it other than a power supply which was like 6 years old.

5 - I have good communication between my computers and my Android phone.

6 - My PC just works.
 
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Numenorean said:
1 - What do you need a CLI for? You still have a CLI in windows if you really want one, however you don't really need one anymore.
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I always hear that from Mac fanboys and I've wondered the same thing...

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3 - I can run all of those OSes on my PC. I can also run them in VM's if I care to.
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Any PC can run all of those with the exception of OSx, which would be because of Apple not any fault of the hardware...

And I really don't get how any iCrap is more "refined" than a PC, personally they look like crap to me
 
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I enjoy having the freedom of choosing and upgrading my hardware, heck, that's what got me into computers in the first place.

Yay, freedom!
 
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corwin said:
I always hear that from Mac fanboys and I've wondered the same thing...



Any PC can run all of those with the exception of OSx, which would be because of Apple not any fault of the hardware...

And I really don't get how any iCrap is more "refined" than a PC, personally they look like crap to me
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I can run OSx on my PC. And my laptop.
 
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Numenorean said:
There isn't anything wrong with my trackpad on my Dell. It works great.
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You didn't even watch the video, did you? I'm not saying there's anything wrong with your trackpad, I'm just saying the ones on the MacBooks are FAR superior—enough so that I had to buy a MacBook.
 
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corwin said:
Yes but you can't run it on ANY PC or laptop...just "approved" ones...unless I've missed something somewhere:\
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apple doesn't approve anything other than their own hardware, look into osx86 also known as hackintosh.
 
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Broheim said:
apple doesn't approve anything other than their own hardware, look into osx86 also known as hackintosh.
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That was exactly the point I was trying to make...any PC hardware is up to the task, it's just not "allowed" by their masters and overlords...
 
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Obsy said:
You didn't even watch the video, did you? I'm not saying there's anything wrong with your trackpad, I'm just saying the ones on the MacBooks are FAR superior—enough so that I had to buy a MacBook.
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I did watch the video. I didn't see anything in there which would make me want to get the Mac trackpad or make me think that it was in any way superior. I did see a bunch of annoying extra features which would probably fuck things up by thinking something was a gesture when it wasn't, etc. Besides, any of those functions that the gestures were doing I can do just as easily, if not even faster by using my keyboard. It's much less annoying too. Maybe the keyboard shortcuts on a Mac just suck so bad that you can't do common things easily on them.
 
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Ns1 said:
There's nothing wrong with it but it sure as fuck isn't an Apple trackpad.
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It certainly is not an Apple trackpad. But I have no need for it to be since it does everything I want it to do. The extra fluff that Apple added serves no use for me.
 
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Numenorean said:
I did watch the video. I didn't see anything in there which would make me want to get the Mac trackpad or make me think that it was in any way superior. I did see a bunch of annoying extra features which would probably fuck things up by thinking something was a gesture when it wasn't, etc. Besides, any of those functions that the gestures were doing I can do just as easily, if not even faster by using my keyboard. It's much less annoying too. Maybe the keyboard shortcuts on a Mac just suck so bad that you can't do common things easily on them.
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:rolleyes:
 
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The macbook track pad is extremely nice, but does not justify it's price to me.
 
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bfdd said:
The macbook track pad is extremely nice, but does not justify it's price to me.
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True, which is why I wish someone else would make something as decent as it. That way I won't have to pay a dumbass premium to get a laptop with it.
 
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Obsy said:
:rolleyes:
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What do you only have one hand or something? Can't keep one hand on the keyboard to do shortcuts there while having one hand on a trackpad? I seriously don't see the benefit of all this gesture stuff when the shortcuts already exist and are easily and quickly accessed. It's a nice option to have if you like it, but it's certainly not a necessity.

I guess if it's something you just have to have and you feel fine paying a price premium for a system that isn't as good for the money, then go ahead.
 
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iGas said:
Not so quick there loud mouths!

I read some where that Mac OSX is as open source as MacDonald giving you free water but charge you a quarter for the cup.
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Redhat does exactly the same thing as Apple (only without selling hardware), and believe me you pay a premium with them too.... but it's still considered opensource.

Mac OS X seems to give windows fanboys some sort of penis envy and vice versa, it's kinda stupid and entertaining at the same time, like a Belgian in a silly hat.
 
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Numenorean said:
Yes you can. It's called a virtual machine. Look it up.
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I'm more than familliar with VM's, use them extensively every single day thank you...just figured OSx was hamstrung by "approved" hardware in a VM just like any other way you load it, I've never cared to try and have no reason to, there's nothing I want/need to run that a PC can't do...of course there's plenty you CAN'T do on a Mac...but it is interesting you can get around the hardware lock by using a VM
 
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