Mac OS X vs. Windows XP

[sourceninja]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: sourceninja
Wow, lets be really strict on interpretations.

There is nothing to interpret. You wrote that if you could buy a copy of Mac OS X, and you can.

Ok I'll write it out fully for you in small words you can understand.

Thanks, as a Linux user I need small words.

If I could buy a retail copy of Apple's OSX operating system that could be installed on my existing hardware without hacks, modifications, license violations, or any other effort greater then installing windows XP(an operating system made by the microsoft corp) or ubuntu (I would like to point out that this is a linux distro) on my pc, I would be able to try the operating system out now and perhaps be more likely to buy a computer made by apple in the future. But this is not currently possible, so I am hesitant to make the switch because I refuse to by lessor hardware then the hardware I currently own.

Lesser in which way? In the fact it can run just about any x86 based operating system out there unlike the hardware you currently have? Or in some other way?

jackass

It's the Linux in me.

Now your just screwing with me. But seriously lessor as in amount of memory, power of graphics, power of cpu, and hard drive space. The only want to get a comparable system is to spend over 2,000.00. I am prepared to do that if I am sure I want OSX. But I am not sure, thus making it a tough decision. I wish there was a mac store near me, or some way I could test the OS out for a while. I really like the idea of iLife, and other mac tools that would make what I do a lot easier, but I am not ready to risk 2000.00 to find out I do not like OSX, and then have yet another linux computer in my office when I already have a great computer that runs linux fine.

 

[TheTurk]

relax all. no need to get frustrated over an OS. this guys simply wants some info not to see PC and Mac folks fight.. Mac works just fine..so does PC. all depends on your budget and priorities..

If you have skills to excel in PC, you should be able to do the same with Mac in a couple of weeks. It is all good.

an bottom line..
gamers...go for PC..

Graphicers got for Mac..

for all others..it does not matter....(unlesss you are a developer for Windows applications).

I can edit XML, built HTML pages, peer to peer, and bittorrent with a Mac as well as a PC.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: TheTurk
relax all. no need to get frustrated over an OS. this guys simply wants some info not to see PC and Mac folks fight.. Mac works just fine..so does PC. all depends on your budget and priorities..

If you have skills to excel in PC, you should be able to do the same with Mac in a couple of weeks. It is all good.

He wanted to know 2 months ago. Some retard bumped an OLD thread.

 

[TheTurk]

I wonder if he made his choice finally..

 

[derail]

I Decided to give my PC that I built about 2 years ago to my Daughter along with a Digital camera and HP printer that also printed good photos. At this time I also decided to give playing online games do to my work scheduel 12 hr Swing shift. My frind talked me into buying a IMac saying that he would never go back to a windows based PC.

Mac Pros:
Stabel ( I Locked it up once cant rember what I was doing but I can confirm it Is not 100% stabel)
Prety Much Virus free ( this may change later on if Macs gain more popularity)
Comes with some Nice Apps for general home use, Photo and video capturing and editing
Can get some of the Best soft ware there is for Video or Photo editing (Apeture and final Cut Pro )
Prety much the true Plug and Play ( If it says it will work on a Mac and OS you run on that Mac it works period)

Cons:
Limited to a Small choice on Hardware selection ( Thats why they are stabel, If Microsoft sold PC's and limeted there OS to only there PC's then there OS would be less Bloted and more stabel than it already is)
Some of the software that use to run so good on the Mac now dosnt run at all or slow on the new Intel platform.
Game selection is sparse ( WOW runs on the Mac but I had to quit WOW again do to being use to much more video detail ,Sound and game control )

Windows Based PC:
Pros:
The OS ( Win Xp was and is still a very good and stable OS. If you over clock to much on the edge or have poor cooling yes it will crash some times but what do you expect. If you buy a Pc and dont build one I belive that is were most have problems with stablity, they seem to put in cheaper hardware with a good Cpu/monitor/GPU or somthing else to show a good selling point)
Exclent platform for Playing games
Much more software suport
Much more hardware support ( try to find a Mac pro with 8800GTX or Soundblaster XFI)
You are abel to Build you own PC ( If you dont Like windows based software you can install linux)
If you like the Apple Cinema display it will work on PC

Cons:
More pron to virus's ( But that realy user should be more carfule what they download, email they open and were they go to on the web)

If you Dont want or need to Play games, dont want to learn Linux and just need to Use you Ipod, Surf the web use Microsoft Office or just need to capture and edit Photo's or Video then Mac's are great> can Be a litle expensive unless you get the Mac Mini.

Bottom Line Look at what you need and can afford.
I miss My PC though.

 

[TheTurk]

Be aware....one important short coming of OS X..

As confirmed by 2nd level tech suport of Apple yet seldomly mentioned to customers, the OS cannot provide both read-and-write privileges to multi users in the machine. means, only one user can add songs to iTunes. or photos to iPhoto, yet both can view. Problem occurs when two users like to add music to shared iTunes library in the Shared folder. You need to manually change ownership of the subfolders in the shared folder to accommodate other users even if they are assigned as administrators. This is never a problem with PC. Another Apple suicide attemt by making it multi-user hostile.

 

[chcarnage]

Sorry, I can't find the folder rights management issue anywhere in Apple's documentation. It sounds like adding music to a common library is easy.

 

[MDesigner]

Allow me to add to your unbelievably short list of Windows cons (gimme a f'ing break, dude)

Originally posted by: derail
Windows Based PC:
Cons:
More pron to virus's ( But that realy user should be more carfule what they download, email they open and were they go to on the web)

Registry is a poor method of system data storage, as you install/uninstall more apps, it slows your system down with time.

Windows needs to be defragmented, Mac doesn't (neither does Linux--Mac and Linux are journaled filesystems, Windows is not)

Uninstalling apps doesn't always fully get rid of related files (DLLs, for example).

Activation needed every time you reinstall Windows. After a certain amount of reinstalls (from reformatting your machine), you NEED to call into Microsoft to activate (I know, because I've reached that point)

Hanging apps can actually bring the system to a halt, or lock up your explorer.exe (in Mac, a sufficient "force quit" is all you need, or "kill -9" in shell)

Building your own systems can be fun/rewarding/cool, as I've always gone that route, but it can also be frustrating and unpredictable.. certain motherboards may give the system problems.

And I'm no Mac fanboy. Windows user for over ten years, making the switch to OS X soon.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: MDesigner
Windows needs to be defragmented, Mac doesn't (neither does Linux--Mac and Linux are journaled filesystems, Windows is not)

NTFS is a journalling filesystem. UFS, FFS, and ext2fs are not and they generally do not need defragmentation.

 

[MDesigner]

You're right. My info was incorrect. It's simply the filesystem and how it handles file fragmenting (deleting/moving files around). NTFS does a horrible job of it, while filesystems like HFS+, ext3, Reiser, etc., do a much better job of it. Nothing to do with journaling.

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

There is plenty of software for Mac. It might not be as abundant but at least its all quality. If you need Windows, run it in Parallels.