weflyhigh

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Anyone here ever use m-drol or other pro-anabolic clones? Results? Side effects? Beginning/ending weight? Experience lifting before taking it? Strength increases?

I ran into a bottle and I've been researching and might want to take it. Seems intense for a first anabolic cycle, though. I would do it 100% (PCT, cycle assist, etc.).
 

crt1530

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Jinru

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Might as well go for the real thing and start juicing on the juice, nom'sayin.
 

alkemyst

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I tried them when I was younger...they have been cracked down on a lot now much like ephedrine and the like.

I will say at the time I had excellent results. Recovery was practically immediate. I could go hours in the gym and my results were insane.

They were much more expensive than real steroids others I knew were taking.

I didn't have any side-effects, but I stuck to a cycle or two and didn't try the "more must be better" idea that so many get caught up in.
 

crt1530

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There you have it. Take prohormones and become like alkemyst. If that doesn't scare you away, I don't know what will.
 

cliftonite

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There you have it. Take prohormones and become like alkemyst. If that doesn't scare you away, I don't know what will.

LOL! Seriously though why take any of that shit. Just work hard eat lot and you will get the results. Its not worth the risks man.
 

alkemyst

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Because many of these types of things can push you beyond your genetic limits at times.

Many can also allow you to perform and recover at a level that you couldn't otherwise.

The reasons they are banned from pro sports are not because they are bad for the athlete, it's because they give them a true unfair advantage.
 

Whisper

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Because many of these types of things can push you beyond your genetic limits at times.

Many can also allow you to perform and recover at a level that you couldn't otherwise.

The reasons they are banned from pro sports are not because they are bad for the athlete, it's because they give them a true unfair advantage.

I would say that before anyone should even consider taking one of these substances, they should first see about reaching their "genetic limits" in a more natural manner. In my opinion, it shouldn't even be an option unless you've been lifting for years and have indefinitely plateaued. Even then, it's not something I've ever considered, and I'm near topped-out for my frame and the amount of body weight I'm willing to put on.
 

Red Dawn

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Anyone here ever use m-drol or other pro-anabolic clones? Results? Side effects? Beginning/ending weight? Experience lifting before taking it? Strength increases?

I ran into a bottle and I've been researching and might want to take it. Seems intense for a first anabolic cycle, though. I would do it 100% (PCT, cycle assist, etc.).

Just doing a little research on it the one thing that keeps coming up is that a young person shouldn't mess with it and if I recall you're still in High School or College.

Seems like a pretty hardcore way to gain muscle and if not done right could have negative results. Doesn't seem like it would really be worth it to me.

Anyway here's some reviews on it. Use your own judgment.

http://www.supplementreviews.com/competitive-edge-labs/m-drol
 

alkemyst

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Much is true above. A 'kid' really doesn't need these kinds of things usually. If you have a hormone problem you can usually get better 'stuff' from your doc.

However, a regular lifter in their 20's with a few years behind them can get a jump start from something like this.

Most that don't get the results they want though are either doing it wrong or not putting in the time / effort needed.

I mean shit, I took 4 years away from my gym...when I get back I see the same people and most haven't changed a bit. Still mindlessly going station to station, flipping out their '10' reps, and moving to the next. I wouldn't be surprised if they are using the exact same weights.

You have to keep pushing yourself, sometimes you add a little and fail the lift...sometimes you can do it more than you did at the lower weight. When you stop being able to do either then it's time to call in reinforcements.
 

Whisper

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Much is true above. A 'kid' really doesn't need these kinds of things usually. If you have a hormone problem you can usually get better 'stuff' from your doc.

However, a regular lifter in their 20's with a few years behind them can get a jump start from something like this.

Most that don't get the results they want though are either doing it wrong or not putting in the time / effort needed.

I mean shit, I took 4 years away from my gym...when I get back I see the same people and most haven't changed a bit. Still mindlessly going station to station, flipping out their '10' reps, and moving to the next. I wouldn't be surprised if they are using the exact same weights.

You have to keep pushing yourself, sometimes you add a little and fail the lift...sometimes you can do it more than you did at the lower weight. When you stop being able to do either then it's time to call in reinforcements.

This is generally true if you're still looking to make gains, although after years of lifting, some people (such as myself) simply look to "maintain" their current level of fitness. While I change up my routine every few months to keep from getting insanely bored, I've been at roughly the same weights on most of my major lifts for well over a year now. The only exceptions are deadlifts (which I just recently started incorporating into my workout again) and squats (which have always been a weak point, and are always in need of improvement).

I do agree, though--adolescents and young adults (~18 y/o and younger) shouldn't even be considering this stuff, and even older individuals should first attempt to reach their limits naturally, especially if they're still making consistent gains without the use of any hormones.
 

alkemyst

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if one is just looking to 'maintain' then about 90% of what's out there is not really needed.
 
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I mean shit, I took 4 years away from my gym...when I get back I see the same people and most haven't changed a bit. Still mindlessly going station to station, flipping out their '10' reps, and moving to the next. I wouldn't be surprised if they are using the exact same weights.

You have to keep pushing yourself, sometimes you add a little and fail the lift...sometimes you can do it more than you did at the lower weight. When you stop being able to do either then it's time to call in reinforcements.

Have you thought that perhaps they just exercise for health and maintenance? Not everybody strives to be a bodybuilder or an expert weight lifter. They may be doing a circuit, in which case they're getting both their resistance training to maintain muscle mass and their aerobic training to reduce their risk of death from nearly every one of the top 10 causes of death in America. People may not be making progress, but that doesn't mean 1) they aren't doing exactly what they want and 2) they aren't healthy because of what they do.
 

Lamont Burns

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I consider my reinforcements more food, but others go the supplement route to try and solve. To each their own.
 

Whisper

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if one is just looking to 'maintain' then about 90% of what's out there is not really needed.

Very true, which is why in my case, I don't take any supplements (protein included). Never have, mostly because I wasn't motivated enough in that area to keep up with--and pay for--them all.
 

alkemyst

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Have you thought that perhaps they just exercise for health and maintenance? Not everybody strives to be a bodybuilder or an expert weight lifter. They may be doing a circuit, in which case they're getting both their resistance training to maintain muscle mass and their aerobic training to reduce their risk of death from nearly every one of the top 10 causes of death in America. People may not be making progress, but that doesn't mean 1) they aren't doing exactly what they want and 2) they aren't healthy because of what they do.

you missed the point (as usual)...

Maybe they just need to meet you to show them stronglifts.

Most of them look pretty unhealthy and many of them are pretty young.
 

BlackTigers

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I have friends that have run cycles of M-Drol, and H-Drol (Halodrol). In fact, I have a complete cycle of that sitting next to me, just choose not to take it yet.

Anyway, be careful with that shit. A lot of times, the side effects can be worse than injected steroids, without all the gains you can get off of them. You need a good cycle assist, and you need a complete PCT to go with them to get your organs working again, M-Drol is strong enough to shut your liver down while on cycle.\

My friend's last H-Drol cycle:
Weight: 180 - 195.
Squat: 395 - 455
Bench: 285 - 315
Deadlift: 455 - 495ish

Post cycle:
Lost 10-15 pounds on the lifts, and 5lbs of body weight.

When you're on these hormones, EAT YOUR ASS OFF. You will gain a lot of weight very quickly, and will experience insane recovery times (you'll feel normal 10 minutes after working out), but your body needs it's food still. They all experiences some backne, and some extreme lethargy near the end of the cycle, but they kept about 80% of the gains, so it's up to you. 8-9 months of gains in a few weeks, is what it boiled down to.

Just be careful, and I wouldn't recommend taking them if you're making good progress on your lifts. If you're new, you WILL get stretch marks, and you will likely injure yourself - just warning you. If you have any more specific questions, let me know, I'll forward them to them.
 

Eric62

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I tried the Pro hormone route maybe 15 years ago when andro and nor-andro first arrived on the commercial scene. Not worth the price IMO. Ephedrine HCL did way more for strength and cuts for far less money.
The later stuff - now banned or grey market I've read about, but never tried. From what I've read (super-drol mostly) you get all the liver stress with very little to show from it other than water retention...