Lucas Arts not supporting pc , but maybe in the future

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: s44
And forum posters still rip the developers and cheer the pirates... Talk about screwed up loyalties.

Who's cheering the pirates? I like PC gaming and it sucks that people who prefer console games are constantly talking about PC gamers with such disdain, as though we all steal all our games. I buy my games, and I feel like there's nothing more I can do to convince game developers to continue to release PC games. And it doesn't help that other people in the gaming community all but accuse me of stealing simply because of the platform I support.

Can you blame PC gamers for being somewhat xenophobic these days? It really sucks. We're being attacked by everyone. High-horse game developers keep scolding PC gamers in general for piracy, even though only some PC gamers steal their games. Console fanboys attack us too. Who do we have to turn to?

I think a lot of the "piracy isn't as bad as you think" arguments you hear are actually PC gamers trying to defend themselves by saying that they don't personally steal games.

 

[s44]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: s44
And forum posters still rip the developers and cheer the pirates... Talk about screwed up loyalties.

Who's cheering the pirates?

Check out any of the DRM threads.

I think a lot of the "piracy isn't as bad as you think" arguments you hear are actually PC gamers trying to defend themselves by saying that they don't personally steal games.

Maybe. I hope so. But this is way too often followed by "I only pirate cause/when games SUCK!" or some such self-justification.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
LOL, when you said "LA FU" website I assumed it was a website where people all said "F U!" to LucasArts.

They should. Assholes. They could pay a porting house a little bit to port over the Xbox 360 version, release it for PC, and sell millions of copies. It really seems like they're doing this because they're jerks, because they most assuredly would make at least some money from a PC version.

lol, typing it on my mobile I didn't even think of that, just a shortcut for button pushing

 

[GhandiInstinct]

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: GhandiInstinct
billion star wars fans will upgrade if they have to

pcs that cant run it are like 3-5 years old, do people with those PCs even care about this game?

its a bunch of malarky

psp, wii, ds, ps2 hypocrite

$700-1000 pcs are better than ps3 and 360 by two fold at least

they wont waste money on optimization and its all about bottom line and most profit and not art and entertainment

cameron suey is lying by the corporate greed that has overcome society nowadays

Here's my solution to bring back PC gaming:

Supply will be provided based on the number of pre-sales(pre-orders) made prior to a games release. And there's no way to cancel your pre-order. So this way, if there is enough pre-orders theyll port it and produce it, if not they'll refund the pre-orders and not do it all citing: "not enough interest."

Piracy solved people.

A non-refundable pre-order is like saying to the developer, "Hey, go ahead and make the game. I'll buy it whether or not it has any replay value, software bugs, or lacks a compelling storyline; hell, it can suck balls for all I care. Heck, just take a dump in the plastic case, but be sure to include some nice artwork on the outside."

We'd be investing in what they promise sure, but they'd have to prove it's somewhat worthy as TFU has.

The only other way out of piracy is to have Nvidia, ATI and Intel form that damn association for hardware requirements and stand up for their consumers.

Otherwise, the next time I see a new GPU or CPU I'll turn the other cheek and not bother given there won't be any reason to invest in hardware without any games to play it on.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Fuck people who pirate games. They ruin it for the rest of us that PAY for our games. I don't care what your rational is for doing it, its still wrong at the end of the day.

This was a piss poor excuse from LA. We all know it boils down to piracy.

 

[potato28]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Fuck people who pirate games. They ruin it for the rest of us that PAY for our games. I don't care what your rational is for doing it, its still wrong at the end of the day.

This was a piss poor excuse from LA. We all know it boils down to piracy.

Did they mention piracy in the statement? No, they mentioned that they're too lazy to port the 360 version over to allow PC gamers the same enjoyment as 360 gamers. I do agree that piracy is a major factor in this, but at the same time if they don't DRM it people will buy it.

 

[skace]

Their reason doesn't make any sense at all. Oh and HAHAHA N-GAGE.

I don't care though, FU won't be as good as Jedi Knight series, fact (just call me Nostradamus).

 

[hooflung]

Originally posted by: s44
So the PC isn't profitable enough to justify the development costs... In other words, it IS because of piracy.

And forum posters still rip the developers and cheer the pirates... Talk about screwed up loyalties.

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
It really seems like they're doing this because they're jerks, because they most assuredly would make at least some money from a PC version.

Not necessarily, no. Availability on PC might actually reduce overall sales as some gamers who could buy it for console instead choose to pirate on PC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation

Maybe you want to refine your reasoning before looking like a moron.

 

[hooflung]

Originally posted by: skace
Their reason doesn't make any sense at all. Oh and HAHAHA N-GAGE.

I don't care though, FU won't be as good as Jedi Knight series, fact (just call me Nostradamus).

I was big into JKO. Huge. My clan was top in No-Force Duel for nearly the entire existance of the game on the two major competition sites. All of our members were in the top 20 and we held the top 7 spots for months at a time constantly.

JKA was a complete joke for competition and our clan fizzled out and moved on after LA decided to force Ravensoft to stop patching the game so the Siege mode wouldn't out shine the 'Battlefront' game. FU is the first game that has any promise to reuinite us in one game and we all, except for our French and German player, have gotten or are getting PS3s ( they've got the xbox 360 ) just for this game.

It looks amazing and hopefully they give you sever mutators for online play.

I do admit, its a shame they are copping out about the PC while allowing a PS2/Wii port to happen even though its not inhouse.

If they mess this game up, not sure what will be next for us.

 

[omber]

Good that I own a 360.. though I have a sad feeling this game will be a fail..

On second thought.. at this point most PCs are superior to PS2, I doubt this is not true.. I mean most people who build rigs to play games on them, put decent hardware in them, if it can be developed for PS2 it should be doable for PC....

 

[MarcVenice]

It's ridiculous, because like many said, 1000$ pc's outshine the consoles in terms of performance. And b) 4000$ pc's are only marginaly faster then 2000$ pc's, hell, a 1300$ pc, without monitor, could have crossfired HD4870's in it, with 4gb of ram, and a e8400 etc. So they are talking out of their asses. It's kind of sad, because they are just flat out lieing, and indirectly think of us as morons

 

[Sentrosi2121]

It is a sad day today. I was looking forward to this game. And it was going to be the first FPS that I was going to pre order in a long time. Usually I play the demo of it and, if it's a POC, then I don't touch it.

 

[Piuc2020]

In these day and age gaming computers are actually less expensive than gaming consoles so I don't know what the big deal is.

I do agree however, that their reasoning is extremely dumb, Crysis has very high system requirements and it's selling pretty good, if your computer can't run the game, then don't buy it. The underlying motive is probably piracy which is just as stupid (if not more) than the system requirement reasoning.

 

[BladeVenom]

If someone keeps track of the Hot Deals, they could have had a quad core Dell for $469, and an HD 4850 for $150. So for only $619 someone can get a PC far superior to any console.

 

[pmv]

I'm so glad I never liked Star Wars. If this were Monkey Island related news I'd be more annoyed.

Surely the PC issue of piracy is balanced by the special PC advantage - that is, the ability of developers to released a half-written game, get some cash flow in to pay people's wages (and the payments on the company boss's Ferrari), and then finish it with patches? Surely with consoles the poor blighters are obliged to actually finish a game before they release it?

 

[BladeVenom]

Originally posted by: pmv
Surely with consoles the poor blighters are obliged to actually finish a game before they release it?

That use to be true, but now that the consoles are online they've been releasing some really buggy console games.

 

[funboy6942]

Im confused, he said he didnt want to make it for the pc because those with lesser systems will get a watered down visual experience of the game, but they are having a outside company take the game and make it playable for the PS2, Wii, PSP, and DS, which would then be a watered down version of the game. It makes no sense, as tho their reason for then not putting it out on the pc.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: funboy42
Im confused, he said he didnt want to make it for the pc because those with lesser systems will get a watered down visual experience of the game, but they are having a outside company take the game and make it playable for the PS2, Wii, PSP, and DS, which would then be a watered down version of the game. It makes no sense, as tho their reason for then not putting it out on the pc.

Which is why they've been getting nothing but bad press/word of mouth about it.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: funboy42
Im confused, he said he didnt want to make it for the pc because those with lesser systems will get a watered down visual experience of the game, but they are having a outside company take the game and make it playable for the PS2, Wii, PSP, and DS, which would then be a watered down version of the game. It makes no sense, as tho their reason for then not putting it out on the pc.

Sounds like simple laziness to me.

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH

Originally posted by: GhandiInstinct
billion star wars fans will upgrade if they have to

pcs that cant run it are like 3-5 years old, do people with those PCs even care about this game?

its a bunch of malarky

psp, wii, ds, ps2 hypocrite

$700-1000 pcs are better than ps3 and 360 by two fold at least

they wont waste money on optimization and its all about bottom line and most profit and not art and entertainment

cameron suey is lying by the corporate greed that has overcome society nowadays

Here's my solution to bring back PC gaming:

Supply will be provided based on the number of pre-sales(pre-orders) made prior to a games release. And there's no way to cancel your pre-order. So this way, if there is enough pre-orders theyll port it and produce it, if not they'll refund the pre-orders and not do it all citing: "not enough interest."

Piracy solved people.

That statement actually is not really true... especially the PS3 is a serious computational/GPU powerhouse.

As exhibit A I refer you to PS3's fold at home performance wrt to the typical gaming $1000 computer.

GPU powerhouse? The PS3 GPU is weaker than a 360 GPU, and is something like a 7800/7900 GTX.....a 4870 or GTX 200 series GPU wipes the floor wih that crap.

Yes, I know the GPU is older in the PS3 but come on, saying its a powerhouse nowadays is just silly.

The CPU might be fast but the GPU is definitely not by todays standards.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH

Originally posted by: GhandiInstinct
billion star wars fans will upgrade if they have to

pcs that cant run it are like 3-5 years old, do people with those PCs even care about this game?

its a bunch of malarky

psp, wii, ds, ps2 hypocrite

$700-1000 pcs are better than ps3 and 360 by two fold at least

they wont waste money on optimization and its all about bottom line and most profit and not art and entertainment

cameron suey is lying by the corporate greed that has overcome society nowadays

Here's my solution to bring back PC gaming:

Supply will be provided based on the number of pre-sales(pre-orders) made prior to a games release. And there's no way to cancel your pre-order. So this way, if there is enough pre-orders theyll port it and produce it, if not they'll refund the pre-orders and not do it all citing: "not enough interest."

Piracy solved people.

That statement actually is not really true... especially the PS3 is a serious computational/GPU powerhouse.

As exhibit A I refer you to PS3's fold at home performance wrt to the typical gaming $1000 computer.

GPU powerhouse? The PS3 GPU is weaker than a 360 GPU, and is something like a 7800/7900 GTX.....a 4870 or GTX 200 series GPU wipes the floor wih that crap.

Yes, I know the GPU is older in the PS3 but come on, saying its a powerhouse nowadays is just silly.

The CPU might be fast but the GPU is definitely not by todays standards.

Aye, Sony was pissed that Nvidia launched a more powerful GPU than the RSX before the PS3 even launched, seeing as they foot the bill for Nvidia to develop the RSX and Nvidia used a lot of the technology in their other products.

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH

Originally posted by: GhandiInstinct
billion star wars fans will upgrade if they have to

pcs that cant run it are like 3-5 years old, do people with those PCs even care about this game?

its a bunch of malarky

psp, wii, ds, ps2 hypocrite

$700-1000 pcs are better than ps3 and 360 by two fold at least

they wont waste money on optimization and its all about bottom line and most profit and not art and entertainment

cameron suey is lying by the corporate greed that has overcome society nowadays

Here's my solution to bring back PC gaming:

Supply will be provided based on the number of pre-sales(pre-orders) made prior to a games release. And there's no way to cancel your pre-order. So this way, if there is enough pre-orders theyll port it and produce it, if not they'll refund the pre-orders and not do it all citing: "not enough interest."

Piracy solved people.

That statement actually is not really true... especially the PS3 is a serious computational/GPU powerhouse.

As exhibit A I refer you to PS3's fold at home performance wrt to the typical gaming $1000 computer.

GPU powerhouse? The PS3 GPU is weaker than a 360 GPU, and is something like a 7800/7900 GTX.....a 4870 or GTX 200 series GPU wipes the floor wih that crap.

Yes, I know the GPU is older in the PS3 but come on, saying its a powerhouse nowadays is just silly.

The CPU might be fast but the GPU is definitely not by todays standards.

Aye, Sony was pissed that Nvidia launched a more powerful GPU than the RSX before the PS3 even launched, seeing as they foot the bill for Nvidia to develop the RSX and Nvidia used a lot of the technology in their other products.

Indeed, I remember someone from NVDA being asked how long it will take for the RSX to become obselete and they said "before launch".

 

[Xavier434]

I really don't understand all of the debate centered around details other that the only detail that really matters. The bottom line here is money and sales figures. When those figures start proving to be more profitable then we will see more titles for PC and that's that. Don't get me wrong. I would like to see a PC version as well, but the reality doesn't escape me either no matter what the response is from the devs or pubs in regards to the reason why they don't port a title to PC. It is always about money.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom

Originally posted by: pmv
Surely with consoles the poor blighters are obliged to actually finish a game before they release it?

That use to be true, but now that the consoles are online they've been releasing some really buggy console games.

LOL...yep, the ability to patch is a sword that cuts both ways. Before, you made sure your game worked before release on a console because if it didn't you were screwed. Now, like the PC, developers can push the game out the door and patch it later...or if it sells poorly, not patch it later! Yeah!

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: geoffry
GPU powerhouse? The PS3 GPU is weaker than a 360 GPU, and is something like a 7800/7900 GTX.....a 4870 or GTX 200 series GPU wipes the floor wih that crap.

Yes, I know the GPU is older in the PS3 but come on, saying its a powerhouse nowadays is just silly.

The CPU might be fast but the GPU is definitely not by todays standards.

He's pretty much saying "We F@H better. ...games? Who needs those when we can fold!"

But there's not much need to debate it... consoles are not much different than computers and what do computers do? They become obsolete (as Al put it) when you open the box. So throw that junk away, man; it's an antique!