Lucas Arts not supporting pc , but maybe in the future

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Jules

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Originally posted by: EarthwormJim

"[If we made the game for high-end PCs], someone with a low-end PC would have a watered down experience, they would have to turn all the settings down and it wouldn't be the same game, he continued. "On the other hand if we made that game for as many people as possible then it's not taking advantage of what those $4,000 systems can do."

I don't see how they could possibly say this, yet it is being released for the PS2, PSP and Wii. Any modern computer is more powerful than those consoles. Hell I'm sure a computer with Intel's integrated graphics is better off.

Oh well, I do have a Wii so I may be getting that version depending on how the reviews are for it.

Um No.
 

shingletingle

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Originally posted by: Jules
Originally posted by: EarthwormJim

"[If we made the game for high-end PCs], someone with a low-end PC would have a watered down experience, they would have to turn all the settings down and it wouldn't be the same game, he continued. "On the other hand if we made that game for as many people as possible then it's not taking advantage of what those $4,000 systems can do."

I don't see how they could possibly say this, yet it is being released for the PS2, PSP and Wii. Any modern computer is more powerful than those consoles. Hell I'm sure a computer with Intel's integrated graphics is better off.

Oh well, I do have a Wii so I may be getting that version depending on how the reviews are for it.

Um No.

Indeed.

EarthwormJim: Exaggerate much? A little too much?
 

Golgatha

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Originally posted by: Genx87
What makes consoles less pirate friendly? And why cant we mimic that on a PC?

Uh, because the PC is an open standards platform that's upgradeable?

Also, I LOLed at the $4,000 PC comment. A $1000 PC could easily play this with better than 720p graphics and some AA and AF thrown in for good measure. Let's not even mention that nearly everyone (in the USA anyway) already has a PC, so for $100-$200 extra for a good gaming graphics card, you can have something that is much better than a console graphically speaking.
 

xboxist

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Originally posted by: Golgatha
Originally posted by: Genx87
What makes consoles less pirate friendly? And why cant we mimic that on a PC?

Uh, because the PC is an open standards platform that's upgradeable?

Can you elaborate upon this more please? Yes I'm ignorant to the exact reasoning and I want to understand it better.

In other words, can someone explain to me what leads to the direct result of the internet being full of PC games to DL and burn, and why the internet isn't flooded with console game files that you can DL and burn? Do game consoles use something other than a traditional DVD disc?
 

Golgatha

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Originally posted by: xboxist
Originally posted by: Golgatha
Originally posted by: Genx87
What makes consoles less pirate friendly? And why cant we mimic that on a PC?

Uh, because the PC is an open standards platform that's upgradeable?

Can you elaborate upon this more please? Yes I'm ignorant to the exact reasoning and I want to understand it better.

In other words, can someone explain to me what leads to the direct result of the internet being full of PC games to DL and burn, and why the internet isn't flooded with console game files that you can DL and burn? Do game consoles use something other than a traditional DVD disc?

It all boils down to DRM. On a console the underlying OS, firmware of all interconnected devices (CPU, graphics, sound, optical drives, etc), and the game discs themselves all use some form of digital rights management. The game files are not user editable and if the game does install some files to an internal hard drive, they will be encrypted and not editable with publicly available software tools. Also, the DRM implementation on a console is often in the hardware directly and it is a proprietary company secret as to how it all works together. Pirating a game on a console requires modifying the actual hardware and keeping up with firmware updates, on say a mod chip, to keep the piracy enabled console running without any hickups.

On a PC the CPU, graphics card, and sound card are all based on open standards, which they must conform to. The software required to run the game (e.g. DirectX, OpenAL, EAX, OpenGL, etc.) and the underlying operating system (e.g. Windows XP and Vista) are highly user configurable pieces of software that can be edited and manipulated to make the installed hardware and software do what the user wants each of them to do. Not to mention most if not all of the game files are copied to the users HDD when a game is installed, and are fully overwriteable and user editable using publicly available tools. Pirating a game on the PC involves downloading the game and cracking it with a piece of software or overwriting a game executable with an already modified executable (by far the most common method).

Oh and FWIW there are plenty of console games available on the Internet for download. I wrote up a post on Devil May Cry 4 when one of Capcom's executive sales guys blamed piracy for DMC4's poor sales. At the time I made the post there was nearly an equal number of people uploading and downloading both the XBox360 and PC version of the game. Lucas Arts probably just didn't think the required monetary expenditure was worth making a PC port of The Force Unleashed for the PC.
 

KaOTiK

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Feb 5, 2001
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What a cop out answer.

Since the game is already running on the 360, porting the code over isn't that difficult. They can get away with just using the 360/PS3 textures cause nearly every other console port does anyways. They already have the lower quality art assets from the Wii/PS2.

It really wouldn't cost them much to transfer it over. This is just sheer laziness.
 

Liet

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It's a bit depressing when a company that gave me games I loved in my childhood (The Dig, Tie Fighter) abandons the platform.

However, I feel better instantly when I remember they haven't made a game of that caliber since the early 90s.

Enjoy your consoles LucasArts!
 

bullbert

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You seriously believe that? Oh come on now. Not all of us were born yesterday. There WILL be a PC version. Next year. But to boost this years revenue, they want you to buy a console version NOW. And in 9 months, they will want you to buy the newly announced PC version with some added content. That is the current market model for non-exclusive titles.

Don't believe everything some marketing mouth tell you. In fact, if you never believe anything the marketing mouths tell you, you will be right more often than not.
 

bullbert

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"[If we made the game for high-end PCs], someone with a low-end PC would have a watered down experience, they would have to turn all the settings down and it wouldn't be the same game, he continued. "On the other hand if we made that game for as many people as possible then it's not taking advantage of what those $4,000 systems can do."

More evidence that this marketing mouth is blowing smoke. I do not know anyone with a $4000 PC. Not even a Sun Ultra 40 M2 Workstation cost that much, and those can be used to do CAE work that PCs have never even dreamed about completing. Maybe that marketing mouth is stuck in the 1990s?
 

samduhman

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I have a PS3 and I'm not paying $60 for just an "ok" game. I'm kind of glad they didn't release it on the PC now. I can spend my money on the better pc games hitting the streets instead. "Pure" a game I've haven't seen little mention of is getting better reviews than SW Unleashed.
 

Pelu

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Not because of piracy... that is kinda dishonest... otherwise for what other reason is??? non....!!!!!

they are just simply cloacking their true reason... piracy lol...

PC the platform with the highest piracy level ever... also the most expensive platform around... also the best quality platform... if you expend a lot of $$$... no wonder PC platform fans get too much piracy...

no wait.. they get piracy for fun... to fill their alter egos.. lol...