LSU vs. Arkansas

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
LSU has beat as many ranked teams as Kansas and WVU combined and yet those two teams are headed to the national championship game and LSU is locked out, how exactly is that fair again? There are probably 20 teams who have been more ranked teams than Kansas and yet they are pretty much set for the NC game now, how is that the BCS working correctly again?

boo hoo. :wine:

It doesnt matter how many ranked teams you beat if you lose to unranked teams.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
LSU has beat as many ranked teams as Kansas and WVU combined and yet those two teams are headed to the national championship game and LSU is locked out, how exactly is that fair again? There are probably 20 teams who have been more ranked teams than Kansas and yet they are pretty much set for the NC game now, how is that the BCS working correctly again?

Ask us again when LSU can beat an unranked Arkansas...

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: BrownTown
LSU has beat as many ranked teams as Kansas and WVU combined and yet those two teams are headed to the national championship game and LSU is locked out, how exactly is that fair again? There are probably 20 teams who have been more ranked teams than Kansas and yet they are pretty much set for the NC game now, how is that the BCS working correctly again?

boo hoo. :wine:

It doesnt matter how many ranked teams you beat if you lose to unranked teams.

so OSU or WV shouldn't be in the NC. That what you're saying?

 

[soonerproud]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
LSU has beat as many ranked teams as Kansas and WVU combined and yet those two teams are headed to the national championship game and LSU is locked out, how exactly is that fair again? There are probably 20 teams who have beat more ranked teams than Kansas and yet they are pretty much set for the NC game now, how is that the BCS working correctly again?

Kansas is not headed to the National championship yet. They still have to get past Missouri and Oklahoma first before they are a shoe in. So the BCS is working this year regardless of what you think.

LSU just lost to an unranked opponent. If they still deserve to go to the title game, then so does OU and a number of two loss teams. The fact is that these teams do not deserve to go because they failed to win when it counts.

Edit: Texas just lost to A&M so OU is a shoe in for the Big 12 south this year.

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: BrownTown
LSU has beat as many ranked teams as Kansas and WVU combined and yet those two teams are headed to the national championship game and LSU is locked out, how exactly is that fair again? There are probably 20 teams who have been more ranked teams than Kansas and yet they are pretty much set for the NC game now, how is that the BCS working correctly again?

boo hoo. :wine:

It doesnt matter how many ranked teams you beat if you lose to unranked teams.

so OSU or WV shouldn't be in the NC. That what you're saying?

Not over a team like kansas with no losses.

 

[drum]

yep, sounds about right. unranked sec team beats a ranked one its parity. unranked big 10 beats ranked big ten its because the big ten sucks :roll:

 

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
LSU has beat as many ranked teams as Kansas and WVU combined and yet those two teams are headed to the national championship game and LSU is locked out, how exactly is that fair again? There are probably 20 teams who have beat more ranked teams than Kansas and yet they are pretty much set for the NC game now, how is that the BCS working correctly again?

a lot of people starts making noises for playoff when their favorite team doesn't make it to NC.

to me, regular season is like the playoff, if you don't loose any game, you're in (if you're in the BCS conference). the system we have right now is really good in my opinion. putting your favorite team in a playoff doesn't guarantee that they don't get knock out in the first round by Arkansas.

 

[soonerproud]

Originally posted by: drum
yep, sounds about right. unranked sec team beats a ranked one its parity. unranked big 10 beats ranked big ten its because the big ten sucks :roll:

Same could be said about the Big 12 this year.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: drum
yep, sounds about right. unranked sec team beats a ranked one its parity. unranked big 10 beats ranked big ten its because the big ten sucks :roll:

I'm sorry but the big 11 has been playing some terrible football this year.

 

[Oil]

Well we blew our chance this year

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: drum
yep, sounds about right. unranked sec team beats a ranked one its parity. unranked big 10 beats ranked big ten its because the big ten sucks :roll:

I'm sorry but the big 11 has been playing some terrible football this year.

I don't disagree, but you cant use the exact same argument in favor of one conference and against another.

 

[BrownTown]

Originally posted by: soonerproudThe fact is that these teams do not deserve to go because they failed to win when it counts.

Yes, clearly we all know by the BCS rules that they DON'T deserve to go, the question you have to ask is if these teams actually PLAYED each other who do you think would win? Ya'll really thing WVU would beat Florida or LSU when their best win is against a team ranked ~#20 and they have lost to any team ranked higher? Sure, their W-L record qualifies them and the fact that they aren't being Hawaii and are at least playing some decent teams gives them enough strength of schedule to qualify for the NC game, but still at the end of the day that doesn't make you the better team. Now FWIW I know LSU ain't even close to being the best team, I have said that forever as I have watched all their games and they are not very good and have been extremely lucky to make it this far. Florida is the best team in the SEC and they won't even make a BCS game but I would give them >50% chance of beating KU or WVU.

 

[drum]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: drum
yep, sounds about right. unranked sec team beats a ranked one its parity. unranked big 10 beats ranked big ten its because the big ten sucks :roll:

I'm sorry but the big 11 has been playing some terrible football this year.

that must explain the 10 bowl eligible teams...

 

[BrownTown]

Originally posted by: drum

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: drum
yep, sounds about right. unranked sec team beats a ranked one its parity. unranked big 10 beats ranked big ten its because the big ten sucks :roll:

I'm sorry but the big 11 has been playing some terrible football this year.

that must explain the 10 bowl eligible teams...

only 1 team in the SEC is going to be non-bowl eligible too, it doesn't mean much, most teams schedule enough cupcakes to only need 1 or 2 real wins to actually make bowl eligibility, especially now that all that means is having a .500 record.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
OMFG wtf are you thinking Arkansas, you just screwed an SEC team out of the freaking national championship game god damnit. Its so sad, LSU could beat any other team in the country not in the SEC, but now no SEC teams get to prove it. SEC champion should just play in the national title game every year no matter what, BCS such crap.

EDIT: clearly all this proves is that the way to get into the title game is to play the most cupcake schedule possible, look at the teams who are going to make it into the NC game, they all played way easier schedules than LSU and will get the reward for being in their cupcake conferences.

lsu should never have been in the championship race in the first place. One of the greatest paper teams ever.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
LSU has beat as many ranked teams as Kansas and WVU combined and yet those two teams are headed to the national championship game and LSU is locked out, how exactly is that fair again? There are probably 20 teams who have beat more ranked teams than Kansas and yet they are pretty much set for the NC game now, how is that the BCS working correctly again?

EDIT: at least we can take solace in the fact that nobody will actually WATCH the title game now since very few people will actually agree that they deserve to be there and the playoff system will be coming sooner. IF not for fairness than at least for TV ratings which will be terrible this year.

lsu has also lost to more unranked teams as those teams combined. gg.

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: BrownTown

Originally posted by: soonerproudThe fact is that these teams do not deserve to go because they failed to win when it counts.

Yes, clearly we all know by the BCS rules that they DON'T deserve to go, the question you have to ask is if these teams actually PLAYED each other who do you think would win? Ya'll really thing WVU would beat Florida or LSU when their best win is against a team ranked ~#20 and they have lost to any team ranked higher? Sure, their W-L record qualifies them and the fact that they aren't being Hawaii and are at least playing some decent teams gives them enough strength of schedule to qualify for the NC game, but still at the end of the day that doesn't make you the better team. Now FWIW I know LSU ain't even close to being the best team, I have said that forever as I have watched all their games and they are not very good and have been extremely lucky to make it this far. Florida is the best team in the SEC and they won't even make a BCS game but I would give them >50% chance of beating KU or WVU.

How can you possibly make the claim that florida deserves to go to the championship game when they've lost to 2 out of the 4 ranked teams they've played in addition to an unranked team.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: BrownTown

Originally posted by: drum

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: drum
yep, sounds about right. unranked sec team beats a ranked one its parity. unranked big 10 beats ranked big ten its because the big ten sucks :roll:

I'm sorry but the big 11 has been playing some terrible football this year.

that must explain the 10 bowl eligible teams...

only 1 team in the SEC is going to be non-bowl eligible too, it doesn't mean much, most teams schedule enough cupcakes to only need 1 or 2 real wins to actually make bowl eligibility, especially now that all that means is having a .500 record.

I really wouldn't start touting the SEC's OOC schedule.

 

[drum]

Originally posted by: BrownTown

Originally posted by: drum

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: drum
yep, sounds about right. unranked sec team beats a ranked one its parity. unranked big 10 beats ranked big ten its because the big ten sucks :roll:

I'm sorry but the big 11 has been playing some terrible football this year.

that must explain the 10 bowl eligible teams...

only 1 team in the SEC is going to be non-bowl eligible too, it doesn't mean much, most teams schedule enough cupcakes to only need 1 or 2 real wins to actually make bowl eligibility, especially now that all that means is having a .500 record.

thats fantastic. it is.
I just wish the SEC would stfu about the big ten. go out, play, win, and don't worry about what everyone else is doing

 

[BlackTigers]

That game was a blast to watch, and absolute riot. McFadden is an all-star back.


And SEC fans are funny.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: BrownTown

Yes, clearly we all know by the BCS rules that they DON'T deserve to go, the question you have to ask is if these teams actually PLAYED each other who do you think would win?

Who cares? Means nothing. When they beat unranked Arkansas come back and tell us about it.

Ya'll really think WVU would beat Florida or LSU when their best win is against a team ranked ~#20 and they have lost to any team ranked higher?

What we think has nothing to do with it. When a team fails to perform, especially against unranked teams they drop out of contention, just as they should.

 

[soonerproud]

Originally posted by: BrownTown

Yes, clearly we all know by the BCS rules that they DON'T deserve to go, the question you have to ask is if these teams actually PLAYED each other who do you think would win? Ya'll really thing WVU would beat Florida or LSU when their best win is against a team ranked ~#20 and they have lost to any team ranked higher? Sure, their W-L record qualifies them and the fact that they aren't being Hawaii and are at least playing some decent teams gives them enough strength of schedule to qualify for the NC game, but still at the end of the day that doesn't make you the better team. Now FWIW I know LSU ain't even close to being the best team, I have said that forever as I have watched all their games and they are not very good and have been extremely lucky to make it this far. Florida is the best team in the SEC and they won't even make a BCS game but I would give them >50% chance of beating KU or WVU.

LOL, so now we should pick based on a assumption of who can beat whom? It doesn't work that way in any sport, including ones with playoffs. You get there by winning when it counts and both LSU and OU failed to do so.

As far as i am concerned, Arkansas is the best team in the SEC for picking off LSU.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: soonerproud

Originally posted by: BrownTown

Yes, clearly we all know by the BCS rules that they DON'T deserve to go, the question you have to ask is if these teams actually PLAYED each other who do you think would win? Ya'll really thing WVU would beat Florida or LSU when their best win is against a team ranked ~#20 and they have lost to any team ranked higher? Sure, their W-L record qualifies them and the fact that they aren't being Hawaii and are at least playing some decent teams gives them enough strength of schedule to qualify for the NC game, but still at the end of the day that doesn't make you the better team. Now FWIW I know LSU ain't even close to being the best team, I have said that forever as I have watched all their games and they are not very good and have been extremely lucky to make it this far. Florida is the best team in the SEC and they won't even make a BCS game but I would give them >50% chance of beating KU or WVU.

LOL, so now we should pick based on a assumption of who can beat whom? It doesn't work that way in any sport, including ones with playoffs. You get there by winning when it counts and both LSU and OU failed to do so.

As far as i am concerned, Arkansas is the best team in the SEC for picking off LSU.

Exactly; I propose next year we just take a poll of fans nationwide and have them "think" out the season and national champion.

 

[miketheidiot]

lets just crown the nc from the preseason pole

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
lets just crown the nc from the preseason pole

preseason polls are what gets us this mess (yes, I know you're kidding)