I've never been able to figure out how we're actually saving any water with these. I'm trying to figure out where the water gets lost.Originally posted by: moparacer
Same problems in our new house. Stupid toilets are a joke.....
First 40 years of my life I always took for granted that you pushed the lever and the turd disappeared in one giant swoosh.
Now we have the break the turd up in sveral pieces and only use 1 square of tissue to get it to flush.....
Damn annoying.....
Originally posted by: Howard
terrylove
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
why do offices have the world's weakest toilets?
Originally posted by: Baked
You need to buy one of those pressurized flush units. I heard you can flush a cat down with single push of button.
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Originally posted by: Baked
You need to buy one of those pressurized flush units. I heard you can flush a cat down with single push of button.
Looks like a job for the mythbusters
Originally posted by: IGBT
it's designed and required by eco-KOOKS. Thus you're only supposed to examine their intentions not the results. Most of you guys voted for this. Aren't you happy?
Originally posted by: IGBT
it's designed and required by eco-KOOKS. Thus you're only supposed to examine their intentions not the results. Most of you guys voted for this. Aren't you happy?
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: IGBT
it's designed and required by eco-KOOKS. Thus you're only supposed to examine their intentions not the results. Most of you guys voted for this. Aren't you happy?
I am. My toliet works fine. Of course I bought one that was made for low flow design and not some cheap one that was on sale and made for old systems just with less water.
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: IGBT
it's designed and required by eco-KOOKS. Thus you're only supposed to examine their intentions not the results. Most of you guys voted for this. Aren't you happy?
I am. My toliet works fine. Of course I bought one that was made for low flow design and not some cheap one that was on sale and made for old systems just with less water.
So only people who want to spend a lot of money on a toilet should have one that works? And what about the first few years before the technology had matured? I'm betting that you didn't buy your low-flow toilet in 1994 when they were first mandated.
The old toilets were inexpensive, simple, and effective. Newer toilets cost more money up front and often incorporate complex pressure-assist systems that are much more difficult for the average homeowner to repair. For a total cost of less than $5.00 I was able to replace the valve assembly on the 40+ year old toilet at my parents' house. I could replace every single part inside for under $20. How much do you think a new pressure tank for one of those low-flow toilets would cost? I'm pretty damn sure it ain't $20.
I'm not against the low-flow toilets in and of themselves, but I am against the laws that mandate their use. If the ultimate drive is to reduce water usage, then the proper method is to increase taxation of water use, not to mandate an immature technology.
ZV
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: IGBT
it's designed and required by eco-KOOKS. Thus you're only supposed to examine their intentions not the results. Most of you guys voted for this. Aren't you happy?
I am. My toliet works fine. Of course I bought one that was made for low flow design and not some cheap one that was on sale and made for old systems just with less water.
So only people who want to spend a lot of money on a toilet should have one that works? And what about the first few years before the technology had matured? I'm betting that you didn't buy your low-flow toilet in 1994 when they were first mandated.
The old toilets were inexpensive, simple, and effective. Newer toilets cost more money up front and often incorporate complex pressure-assist systems that are much more difficult for the average homeowner to repair. For a total cost of less than $5.00 I was able to replace the valve assembly on the 40+ year old toilet at my parents' house. I could replace every single part inside for under $20. How much do you think a new pressure tank for one of those low-flow toilets would cost? I'm pretty damn sure it ain't $20.
I'm not against the low-flow toilets in and of themselves, but I am against the laws that mandate their use. If the ultimate drive is to reduce water usage, then the proper method is to increase taxation of water use, not to mandate an immature technology.
ZV
