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LoTR is such BS sometimes

Maximilian

Maximilian

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Just finished watching battle of the five armies. Heros rarely die, they can seemingly take on armies by themselves. Orcs bred for war, covered in thick armor with big fucking swords get slaughtered by literally everything out there, elves, dwarves, peasants with a sword, hobbits they can all kill orcs pretty easily. People can go toe to toe in swordfights with ogres that look like they could crush a persons skull with ease.

Heros always pull some BS out their ass to "win" at the end. Army of the dead from nowhere. Army of birds from nowhere. *yawn*

Also... random criticism but in the first lotr film when frodo is stabbed by that ogre and hes wearing mithril, that loose fitting armor, surely his midsection would have been crushed between the mithril by the force of that blow?

I think maybe game of thrones has spoiled me, noone is safe in that.

tl;dr good guys are OP, bad guys need a buff
 
Of the infinite stories that have been created or will be created, virtually all end the way you want. But they tend to be so tedious and boring.

Oh, good guy leaves on an adventure, gets slaughtered right out the door. The end. That will be $10, thanks.

It generally just isn't a good tale when it is realistic.

So multiply the infinite possibility of stories with the infinitesimal probability that the story occurs with orcs dying left and right, and you end up with a few good stories. These are the ones we watch. These also are the ones that are unrealistic.
 
it's not BS, it is merely one possible parallel universe in the infinite set of parallel universes, in which everything turned out exactly right
 
Maximilian said:
Heros always pull some BS out their ass to "win" at the end. Army of the dead from nowhere. Army of birds from nowhere. *yawn*
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Yeah, there are a bajillion deus ex machina moments in LOTR. Tolkien was strong on language and descriptions of the cultures, but his plotting and pacing were for shit. Overall it's not very good fantasy series and the eagles were the worst. The whole thing could have been over in 5 minutes if Gandalf called them first.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
Yeah, there are a bajillion deus ex machina moments in LOTR. Tolkien was strong on language and descriptions of the cultures, but his plotting and pacing were for shit. Overall it's not very good fantasy series and the eagles were the worst. The whole thing could have been over in 5 minutes if Gandalf called them first.
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Then there wouldn't be an epic adventure. :colbert:
 
Jodell88 said:
Then there wouldn't be an epic adventure. :colbert:
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This. The Hobbit was the 1st book I read voluntarily, 11 grade, iirc. It was supposed to be a Christmas present but my Mom left it out. I got the trilogy after I confessed to reading half of it. +1 for Mom. I have no idea how many books I've read since 1981 because of Tolkien. I'm on my 2nd book this week, Mistborn, somehow I missed them.

And damned kindle for PC.
 
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Printer Bandit said:
recommendations for any movie where the hero gets served a crushing defeat by the villan and never recovers?
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The Counselor


Not sure if he ever recovers in the long run, but is a pretty intense and would maybe all would be viillans more or less.

No hereos really involved I guess to begin with, just thought I's list it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2193215/?ref_=nv_sr_1

I'd personally still give it a lot more than a 5.4
 
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While I can imagine the unforgiving nature of Game of Thrones story telling has it's advantages in the books (I haven't read them), I honestly don't think the adaptation to screen has been even remotely as well done as the first three Rings movies. There are far too many scenes of ponderous exposition, and characters arbitrarily telling others their backstories, as if it's relevant to anyone but the audience. So among other reasons, Game of Thrones feels like an adaptation to me, while Lord of The Rings doesn't, so I still enjoy it significantly more, even though I also prefer the more brutal style of GoT.
 
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