LoTR is such BS sometimes

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xSauronx

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recommendations for any movie where the hero gets served a crushing defeat by the villan and never recovers?

big daddy in kick ass. /and i liked it.

the lotr and hobbit movies were way overdone by PJ. the guy just cant freaking stop himself. i enjoyed the books some as a kid, but i mostly enjoyed the movies for the visuals. they are not just over the top way too often, but drawn out and boring way too often
 

Maximilian

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recommendations for any movie where the hero gets served a crushing defeat by the villan and never recovers?

Avatar. Depends on your interpretation of the movie but yeah... Avatar!
 

notposting

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Well, the Hobbit was a short(er) story and 3 long ass movies is a pure fucking money grab. We saw the first in the theater and never bothered with the rest.

The LOTR movies were okay.

Also, why the hell are people blaming Tolkien for movies adapted from novels like he was the damn screenwriter/director/producer?
 

BlitzPuppet

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I still haven't watched any of them...Sad I know. I'm surprised I even like Game of Thrones as I'm not too much into the whole middle ages/fantasy stuff.
 

irishScott

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I still haven't watched any of them...Sad I know. I'm surprised I even like Game of Thrones as I'm not too much into the whole middle ages/fantasy stuff.

To be fair LOTR has aged a little. It was revolutionary, intense and awesome when it came out, and still holds up well, but it's no Game of Thrones. Hollywood built a great deal on top of Peter Jackson's work, and some of it is simply better.
 

Nashemon

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Wow at unintentional spoilers in this thread. Hey guys, everyone dies at the end of this movie lol
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Just finished watching battle of the five armies. Heros rarely die, they can seemingly take on armies by themselves. Orcs bred for war, covered in thick armor with big fucking swords get slaughtered by literally everything out there, elves, dwarves, peasants with a sword, hobbits they can all kill orcs pretty easily. People can go toe to toe in swordfights with ogres that look like they could crush a persons skull with ease.

Heros always pull some BS out their ass to "win" at the end. Army of the dead from nowhere. Army of birds from nowhere. *yawn*

Also... random criticism but in the first lotr film when frodo is stabbed by that ogre and hes wearing mithril, that loose fitting armor, surely his midsection would have been crushed between the mithril by the force of that blow?

I think maybe game of thrones has spoiled me, noone is safe in that.

tl;dr good guys are OP, bad guys need a buff

That noone guy must be one lucky SOB.
 

TheSlamma

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Even in DnD orcs would run if the odds were not 4:1 in their favor. This is how those creatures were written as dumb cowards. All of middle earth fantasy is based on these books.
 
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dainthomas

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Yeah, there are a bajillion deus ex machina moments in LOTR. Tolkien was strong on language and descriptions of the cultures, but his plotting and pacing were for shit. Overall it's not very good fantasy series and the eagles were the worst. The whole thing could have been over in 5 minutes if Gandalf called them first.

Manwe initially didn't want to get involved after the destruction of Beleriand that resulted from when the Valar fought Morgoth in the War of Wrath. Everyone knows this.
 

futurefields

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The Hobbit movies are shit compared to LOTR.

The stories just aren't comparable. LOTR is better material for making movies out of.