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Lost my beer vending job for not selling to a preggo.

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I am surprised you guy aren't given 100% authority to either serve or not serve, based on a variety of factors.

You were in the right, you just handled it terribly.
 
Like others have said you should have checked yourself long ago. You sling beer for a living, you`re not some stewart of society. Maybe you got a case $20 grand easy.
 
Newbian said:
True, but they can't discriminate against a group like that is what he is saying.

It would be like saying they can refuse service to a certain race.

It's one thing to refuse service to a random jerk or a drunk but this is another thing.
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nah. you can do that. despite the non-discrimination laws.

it's after the fact, when potential lawsuits and such determine what you did was lawful or not.


it's always legal...until; 2-3 years later, when a court decides that it is not.

:hmm:
 
Generator said:
Like others have said you should have checked yourself long ago. You sling beer for a living, you`re not some stewart of society. Maybe you got a case $20 grand easy.
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he doesn't cling beer for a living.

it's...a hobby. dude has a full-time job elsewhere, making real money.

:hmm:

read the OP, I guess?

what's a stewart of society?

like, this guy?
 
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OutHouse said:
Take it to a news station
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Good idea! At least you will make the news and some lawyer will try to get you a few million dollars.

My opinion is that pregnant women can drink beer.
I have a friend who is an OBGYN and she said they teach that pregnant women who drink lightly have less complications than stout non-drinkers.
 
Any alcohol vendor in the United States has the right to refuse service to anyone. OP has a wrongful termination case in the bag.
 
edro said:
Good idea! At least you will make the news and some lawyer will try to get you a few million dollars.

My opinion is that pregnant women can drink beer.
I have a friend who is an OBGYN and she said they teach that pregnant women who drink lightly have less complications than stout non-drinkers.
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I think the feeling is the kids suffer more then the mom would.
 
Mr. Pedantic said:
As they say, no good deed goes unpunished.



Todorow M, Moore TE, Koren G. Investigating the effects of low to moderate levels of prenatal alcohol exposure on child behaviour: a critical review. J Popul Ther Clin Pharmacol. 2010 Summer;17(2):e323-30. Epub 2010 Oct 18.


There's a lot of stuff in that review, but the bottom lines are:


1) The papers that report no (or negative) association between drinking and fetal alcohol spectrum disorder are plagued by methodological failings that mean the relevance of their conclusions are limited. Most of the best evidence currently shows that rather than being a J-type curve (as the media is wont to report) the alcohol-FASD relationship is a dose-dependent one.
2) Given the lack of evidence in this specific regard, but also given human psychology, the tendencies of the mass media, and the overwhelming evidence that moderate to heavy alcohol consumption is associated with FASD, the only ethically appropriate stance for pregnant women is complete abstinence.


Now it's your turn to provide some evidence.
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Isnt that study just saying " there's no way to prove that low alcohol consumption doesn't do you any harm in pregnancy but there's also no evidence that low alcohol consumption does do you harm. High alcohol consumption does do you harm so best be careful as we don't really have a clue."

You could use that logic to prevent the sale of alcohol to anybody as high consumption leads to liver disease and dementia.

And to reply to the OP, if you're going to give out health tips to the public its probably best done when you're not selling them a narcotic. If you're really that worried about their health you should set up a smoothie and salad stand or some shit.
 
FDF12389 said:
Any alcohol vendor in the United States has the right to refuse service to anyone. OP has a wrongful termination case in the bag.
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Doesn't the OPs "employer" have the right not to sell the OP the beer in the first place?

It looks like the OP has to buy the beer and sell it on to the public.
 
Op should run background checks on everyone before serving them. This way he can avoid serving those with liver problems, violent tendencies, those that are alcoholic or have a genetic predisposition to alcoholism, etc...
 
I can't believe this thread has gone on this long. I'm just going to make one point:

OP, what about ALL THE OTHER PREGNANT women you sold beer to at the stadium? Are you going to make them all pee on a strip for you? "Pink! Here's a beer. Blue! Sorry, no beer for you." YOU can't tell during the first trimester, and it's during the first trimester that alcohol is particularly harmful. Once the woman is obviously pregnant - 3rd trimester - a beer or two is no big deal.

What you did is the moral equivalent of being against weeds, and pulling dandelions out while leaving the giant hogweed behind because you didn't have a clue.
(I just wanted to contribute another horrible analogy, since this thread seems to be a repository for them.)
 
Inspector Jihad said:
Op should run background checks on everyone before serving them. This way he can avoid serving those with liver problems, violent tendencies, those that are alcoholic or have a genetic predisposition to alcoholism, etc...
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It would be impractical for the OP, but if the government did all of that for anyone that wanted to purchase\consume alcohol that would be a good compromise solution. Then they could issue you an "alcohol" card, or better yet just make the addition to your sub-dermal RFID chip. I don't know why we haven't started using those with people when they've proven an overwhelming success with pets.

Then if you screwed up by getting a DUI, public intoxication, drunk & disorderly, intoxication manslaughter, intoxication domestic abuse, etc. you would have your alcohol privileges revoked. That would be a far more effective system than the current parole officer & urine test means of keeping certain people from drinking that we have now.
 
DrPizza said:
I can't believe this thread has gone on this long. I'm just going to make one point:

OP, what about ALL THE OTHER PREGNANT women you sold beer to at the stadium? Are you going to make them all pee on a strip for you? "Pink! Here's a beer. Blue! Sorry, no beer for you." YOU can't tell during the first trimester, and it's during the first trimester that alcohol is particularly harmful. Once the woman is obviously pregnant - 3rd trimester - a beer or two is no big deal.

What you did is the moral equivalent of being against weeds, and pulling dandelions out while leaving the giant hogweed behind because you didn't have a clue.
(I just wanted to contribute another horrible analogy, since this thread seems to be a repository for them.)
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That's a good point, and would be remedied by a licensing sytem for purchasing alcohol. As soon as your doctor finds out you're pregnant, he files the form that revokes your alcohol privileges. Get an abortion or miscarry, that doctor files the form that reinstates your privileges. This same system could be used if you were prescribed certain medicines that should not be taken with alcohol such as Percocet. A temporary hold could be put on your alcohol privileges for the length of time that it should take you to finish your prescription.
 
Yup she is legally allowed to buy beer while prego. You picked the wrong fight. Although i do think its a stupid thing to lose a job over. You tried to regulate your morals onto her and it didnt pay off. As it never does.
 
Personally I think you did the right thing, it is your individual option on who to sell to.

On the other side of things, some pregnant mothers are encouraged to have A beer or A glass of wine in late stages of pregnancy. Can't remember why, but a family friend did something similar to your situation to a waitress at a local restaurant.
 
I bet if the kid came out retarded, the mom would sue the OP for selling her beer and not forewarning her with a label of the consequences of her actions.
 
This is like not selling fast food to fat people or selling cigarettes in general. If it isn't against the law, sell the damn beer.
 
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