"Lost" 6x0 "Ab Aeterno" Tues. 9pm NO SPOILERS UNTIL AIRED

[darkxshade]

Naturally, the biggest questions are going to be answered last. Like any other tv show, they want to keep you watching. I guess some people just don't have the patience for this show.

BTW, how exactly did we already know that Richard came on the Black Rock? I must have missed that part, or I'm not remembering it at the moment.

He sort of spilled his beans when he tried to have jack kill him when they were both in the Black Rock.

It's understandable that they want to answer all the big questions at the end but this IS the end[of the show], they won't possibly have enough time to answer all of the big questions on the finale if they keep this up.

 

[silverpig]

You're correct on all of those. However, this is the type of thing I don't NEED them to "explain". They tied them all together for me, and that's good enough. If they happen to explain the exact significance of each occurrence, then more power to me (and them). But, I don't and can't POSSIBLY expect them to wrap a nice and pretty bow on every single "WTF" portion of the show.

Actually, they DO need to explain it. What if Hurley won the lottery with 2, 4, 15, 19, 33, 40, the code for the computer was "titties", Jack was #99, and all the rest of the numbers were pulled from a random number generator? Would the show be any different? No. Thus, there has to be some reason why they are all the same, and why the writers keep throwing them in our face.

 

[Ns1]

Actually, they DO need to explain it. What if Hurley won the lottery with 2, 4, 15, 19, 33, 40, the code for the computer was "titties", Jack was #99, and all the rest of the numbers were pulled from a random number generator? Would the show be any different? No. Thus, there has to be some reason why they are all the same, and why the writers keep throwing them in our face.

but does it REALLY matter?

no.

 

[darkxshade]

Actually, they DO need to explain it. What if Hurley won the lottery with 2, 4, 15, 19, 33, 40, the code for the computer was "titties", Jack was #99, and all the rest of the numbers were pulled from a random number generator? Would the show be any different? No. Thus, there has to be some reason why they are all the same, and why the writers keep throwing them in our face.

That's a good point, they made a huge deal with the numbers constantly bombarding us with minor references to them on a regular basis(radio tower, hatch, pressing the button with them every 108 mins, hurleys luck, the references to the candidates, it goes on and on). It would be complete bullshit if they don't explain what those numbers mean and their significance.

 

[Homerboy]

Actually, they DO need to explain it. What if Hurley won the lottery with 2, 4, 15, 19, 33, 40, the code for the computer was "titties", Jack was #99, and all the rest of the numbers were pulled from a random number generator? Would the show be any different? No. Thus, there has to be some reason why they are all the same, and why the writers keep throwing them in our face.

They are the numbers assigned to the six candidates. We know that. Why are those numbers specifically assigned? That we don't know. Maybe they were randomly assigned by Jacob or MiB, and at that point they became "magical". Obviously they have some supernatural powers Isn't that enough? How far back into the "why" questions do we have to go?

Edit: Again if they DO explain them (or other things) in detail. Then GREAT. I will be that much more happier. But if they don't I'm not going to sulk in a corner about it.

 

[Hammerhead]

When we first saw Jacob and the MIB sitting on the beach, werent they looking at the Black rock sitting in the water on a clear sunny day on calm waters?
Last night they showed the black rock come crashing on to the island at night during a storm.
What gives?

 

[Homerboy]

When we first saw Jacob and the MIB sitting on the beach, werent they looking at the Black rock sitting in the water on a clear sunny day on calm waters?
Last night they showed the black rock come crashing on to the island at night during a storm.
What gives?

yeah I noticed that too. But maybe the Black Rock was sitting there for 48hrs or something and then the storm kicked up? Who knows. But damn it I WANT THAT ANSWERED!!!

 

[Udgnim]

When we first saw Jacob and the MIB sitting on the beach, werent they looking at the Black rock sitting in the water on a clear sunny day on calm waters?
Last night they showed the black rock come crashing on to the island at night during a storm.
What gives?

the answer is that ship is not the Black Rock

 

[nageov3t]

I read awhile ago that the producers had said that they were NOT going to explain the numbers and that it'll just be one of the mysteries or supreme coincidences of the show.

so that's that.

 

[Kev]

You're correct on all of those. However, this is the type of thing I don't NEED them to "explain". They tied them all together for me, and that's good enough. If they happen to explain the exact significance of each occurrence, then more power to me (and them). But, I don't and can't POSSIBLY expect them to wrap a nice and pretty bow on every single "WTF" portion of the show.

But that's the reason the show is so popular and has such a rabid fanbase. I'm not even one of those Lost nerds that dissects every episode after it airs. But to create all this mystery, gain popularity because of it, and then not answer everything, is just plain shitty.

I hope I am proven wrong, but if I'm not, whatever.

 

[brigden]

I don't doubt that many central themes have been a part of the show since it's creation, but it's quite apparent that the writers have largely been pulling it out of their ass as the show has progressed.

With each season we are introduced to new plot and new characters, some of which feature prominently and then seemingly vanish. Concepts are built up and then fizzle. Characters depart suddenly with little resolution.

I will give the writers credit in that filling six seasons is no easy task and one should expect quite a lot of tangents.

What I think they have failed at miserably is the disparity in continuing plot and character arc. Months (or longer) can elapse before revisiting a character or plot line. Bad writing.

Worst of all, in my opinion, is the ease at which the characters embrace the incredible events happening in their lives. When a character does seek answers, they are usually presented with, and accept, a short, dismissive, and ambiguous response. Bad writing.

But I'm still watching.

 

[Kev]

I read awhile ago that the producers had said that they were NOT going to explain the numbers and that it'll just be one of the mysteries or supreme coincidences of the show.

so that's that.

If they don't explain:

1) the numbers
2) walt's significance
3) why the island heals people
4) why it can travel through time
5) what the black smoke is made of/from
6) aaron's significance
7) why hurley can see dead people
8) why asian guy can sense dead people

then I deem this show to be bullshit.

 

[Homerboy]

If they don't explain:

1) the numbers
2) walt's significance
3) why the island heals people
4) why it can travel through time
5) what the black smoke is made of/from
6) aaron's significance
7) why hurley can see dead people
8) why asian guy can sense dead people

then I deem this show to be bullshit.

I can see some of your points, but 5, 7 and 8 I don't think matter all that much do they?

7 and 8 can just be explained with "psychic powers", which based of everything else that is happening isn't too hard to accept.

5 I don't see what it matters too much. It's made of smoke. Magic smoke. Again, based of everything else that is happening isn't too hard to accept. It/he is obviously some magical deity/ghost/angel/power/demon/whatever

2 and 6 I would guess are intertwined on some level. Or are at least "similar".

I'm guessing that 2, 3, 4 and 6 will, and SHOULD all be answered.

1 I would like it answered, but won't lose sleep over it too much if not.

 

[Kev]

I can see some of your points, but 5, 7 and 8 I don't think matter all that much do they?

7 and 8 can just be explained with "psychic powers", which based of everything else that is happening isn't too hard to accept.

5 I don't see what it matters too much. It's made of smoke. Magic smoke. Again, based of everything else that is happening isn't too hard to accept. It/he is obviously some magical deity/ghost/angel/power/demon/whatever

2 and 6 I would guess are intertwined on some level. Or are at least "similar".

I'm guessing that 2, 3, 4 and 6 will, and SHOULD all be answered.

1 I would like it answered, but won't lose sleep over it too much if not.

5, 7, and 8 matter because they claim that everything would be based on science or at least sci fi, not "magic."

I honestly feel like if most of these questions aren't answered, then a large percentage of the series was a waste of time. Other than that, I won't lose sleep over anything. Even if I'm blown away and 100% satisfied with the finale, I'll have forgotten about it within 24 hours

 

[pontifex]

this. early in the series when they said the smoke was "the islands security system" i had assumed it was mechanical in origin... somehow.

It certainly sounds mechanical. specifically when it would grab someone and pull them away.

 

[darkxshade]

after all that's said and done... I have a feeling we'll have much more to discuss about in terms of the lack of closure ~2 months from now.

 

[DanDaManJC]

If they don't explain:

1) the numbers
2) walt's significance
3) why the island heals people
4) why it can travel through time
5) what the black smoke is made of/from
6) aaron's significance
7) why hurley can see dead people
8) why asian guy can sense dead people

then I deem this show to be bullshit.

yeah the whole walt and aaron thing kinda just dropped off the map... that was a key motivator for a huge chunk of the first couple seasons too. id hate to see that go unanswered... itd be nice to see what the island is too. i dont think they'll be able to give a complete answer to wtf the island "is"... but give us something xD

 

[cronos]

5, 7, and 8 matter because they claim that everything would be based on science or at least sci fi, not "magic."

I honestly feel like if most of these questions aren't answered, then a large percentage of the series was a waste of time. Other than that, I won't lose sleep over anything. Even if I'm blown away and 100% satisfied with the finale, I'll have forgotten about it within 24 hours

I can tell you right now that it's going to be: magic. And none of those will be explained.

I'd suggest you to not waste your time anymore and stop watching.

 

[Homerboy]

I can tell you right now that it's going to be: magic. And none of those will be explained.

I'd suggest you to not waste your time anymore and stop watching.

Agreed. I don't see any feasible way they can explain the smoke monster (and many other things) "scientifically"

 

[bobeedee]

Did anyone notice that the MIB (Titus Welliver) put the "plug in the jug" in "Gone Baby Gone"

 

[Demo24]

I was actually happy to see this episode as I was curious about Richard. Now I know more specifically, not just assumptions and it all makes sense. Now I'm curious about a couple things: a)where'd the statue come from b)how Jacob trapped MIB on the island and 'took away' his body.

 

[BrownTown]

they are exactly the same

No, they really are nothing the same, the entire plot of this season did not exist before last seasons finale. It appears as though everything before that point really will not be touched on at all ever again except in passing. This episode is a great example, the plot of this episode has almost nothing to do with any other episode of LOST. You can argue that the few last minutes with MiB and Jacob in it were meaningful, but the first 45 minutes of back story added nothing to the series. Maybe it fills in Richards history, but there is really very little I can see of "Ricardo" in this episode that explains Richards point of view any better than before.

 

[M0RPH]

I'm laughing at you guys that want neat and tidy answers to every little question and then you want it all to be scientific. So you want Lost to explain the paranormal and why some people is this world are psychic or can communicate with the dead? Do you also want the Lost writers to tell you if god exists and what the meaning of life is?

 

[meltdown75]

i'd be willing to make a bet about people that NEED to see the answers to every little detail... i won't say what it is though

 

[Kev]

Agreed. I don't see any feasible way they can explain the smoke monster (and many other things) "scientifically"

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