Am I the only one who gets a bit angry watching this show now? Not because I think the show "sucks" or some garbage, but because I'm pissed at the situation the castaways are being put in by the "Others." I swear I want to jump through the screen and strangle Ben (Henry), every time I see the guy.
How come no one has thought of the simple theory that the other island they showed Sawyer is an empty island with nothing on it, and that they are still on the same island as everyone else?
sash1
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that's really doubtful that he was being con'd. it was a flashback. they're NOT going to go back and touch on this again most likely. the point of the flashback was to show that Sawyer isn't so one dimensional and that he does have the capacity to care for his daughter that he's never seen/met. which connects to how he acted in the episode, how he cared about Kate and didn't want her to get a pacemaker in her (even though that was a lie, but enough to convince Sawyer).
besides, if it was fake, then they can't get to the money. how was she to know he would deposit a million or whatever dollars for her daughter?
The circles on the map are not islands. They are hatches. The swan is the hatch Desmond was in, and Locke was pushing the button in.
The Arrow is the Hatch the Tail enders went into. The staff is the one Clarie was taken to. The middle one is the Pearl where Ekko and Locke saw that other video. We haven't seen the rest yet.
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cKGunslinger
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It looks like Ben is the one with the tumor, but could also be a ruse. Perhaps it is Lock's tumor, and that's why he couldn't walk prior to crashing on the island. Maybe it healed from the island's "magic powers." Or maybe it moved enough to allow him to walk, but is still going to kill him and Jack is meant to save him. Lock could be the whole reason every single person on the island is there. :boggle:
Gunslinger08
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This is interesting, they are developing Sawyers' character
And OMGBBQWTF? Desmond can see teh futuer!
And OMGBBQWTF? Desmond can see teh futuer!
Anyone thought that the island is actually the only island and where they were looking was just the backside of the island i.e. packman style?
That would explain why everyone who tries to leave the island just ends up running into it again unless you leave by a certain area that ben said to Michael when he let them go.
That would explain why everyone who tries to leave the island just ends up running into it again unless you leave by a certain area that ben said to Michael when he let them go.
Everyone here is talking as if the village shown in the first episode of this season (book club village), is on a different island than the one that the planes crashed on. However, when you watch the camera zoom out, you can see that both are on the same island, meaning, when Ethan ran to the crash site, he didn't need to to go on a sub, or underground or something.
That still doesn't determine whether the place they are holding Kate, Sawyer and Jack is on a different island, or the same island, and if it is a different island how they get back and forth.
I just remembered discussion on how Ethan got to the crash in the estimated time Ben gave him, and that he had to take a boat or something.
But with the prison island, I am guessing a sub(what Jack might have been on) or just a simple boat.
What I cant wait for, is to find out something HUGE. I mean, what the others are there for. How they know stuff from the real world. There are just so many amazing ways this could end up. However, I think the writers will drag this on as long as they can, since it is still popular.
Episode 7 is about Juliette, but I think that's next year's episode, right after the cut off. She probobly knows a lot about the others.
TangoJuliet
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I have a bunch of theories....much of what I've read on different sites and came to these conclusions
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The others are scientists sent to the island in the late 70's to do secret scientific experiments. The island is at top-secret facility shielded from the rest of the world by an EM field. This EM field would explain why Ben (Henry) told Michael to follow a bearing and not a heading when leaving the island. Also would explain why Desmond just sailed back to the island.
The others created an advanced EM presence on the island which they call the Cerberus System. It has the ability to enter into the minds of the survivors, scan their memories and pasts, gathers intel for The Others. Then it plays off of those memories and feeds on their fears. It does not attack who can be deemed "good" (by the Others' definition). It kills the "threats" or the "bad people" it comes into contact with. This EM presence is known as the smoke monster.
The button controlled some type of EM field. I am not sure if it was part of the smoke monster or part of the EM field that surrounds the island. Because it was blown up the island will lose its magical healing powers meaning Rose's cancer will return and Locke will lose use of his legs. I have not read this anywhere but I do feel that the others were doing some sort of time travel. This is evident by the fact that Desmond can now see the future. And also in the past episode with the rabbit......I've found this
From Stephen King's "On Writing," in which he discusses how writing is like a sort of time travel/telepathy relationship with the audience:
"Look-here's a table covered with a red cloth. On it is a cage the size of a small fish aquarium. In the cage is a white rabbit with a pink nose and pink-rimmed eyes. In its front paws is a carrot-stub upon which it is contentedly munching. On its back, clearly marked in blue ink, is the numeral 8."
Lastly....I do believe there is only 1 island and that when Ben took Sawyer up to the peak it was simply a snowglobe effect. The guy with the patch is actually an other from a differnt hatch. Someone will be killed in the next episode - my guess is Mr. Ecko or possibly Rose. Other assumptions: Jack's dad is the real Sawyer, Claire is Jack's half sister, The real Henry Gale was an associate of Penny Widmore who she sent on a mission to find Desmond, and Widmore Corps supply food drops on the island and constructed the research stations.
The series will conclude when they get to the middle of the map but who knows when that will happen. They still need to find a couple more hatches and need to explain more of the character's backgrounds. I'm guessing atleast 7 seasons before they come close.
(may contain spoilers so if you dont want to see them...dont read)
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The others are scientists sent to the island in the late 70's to do secret scientific experiments. The island is at top-secret facility shielded from the rest of the world by an EM field. This EM field would explain why Ben (Henry) told Michael to follow a bearing and not a heading when leaving the island. Also would explain why Desmond just sailed back to the island.
The others created an advanced EM presence on the island which they call the Cerberus System. It has the ability to enter into the minds of the survivors, scan their memories and pasts, gathers intel for The Others. Then it plays off of those memories and feeds on their fears. It does not attack who can be deemed "good" (by the Others' definition). It kills the "threats" or the "bad people" it comes into contact with. This EM presence is known as the smoke monster.
The button controlled some type of EM field. I am not sure if it was part of the smoke monster or part of the EM field that surrounds the island. Because it was blown up the island will lose its magical healing powers meaning Rose's cancer will return and Locke will lose use of his legs. I have not read this anywhere but I do feel that the others were doing some sort of time travel. This is evident by the fact that Desmond can now see the future. And also in the past episode with the rabbit......I've found this
From Stephen King's "On Writing," in which he discusses how writing is like a sort of time travel/telepathy relationship with the audience:
"Look-here's a table covered with a red cloth. On it is a cage the size of a small fish aquarium. In the cage is a white rabbit with a pink nose and pink-rimmed eyes. In its front paws is a carrot-stub upon which it is contentedly munching. On its back, clearly marked in blue ink, is the numeral 8."
Lastly....I do believe there is only 1 island and that when Ben took Sawyer up to the peak it was simply a snowglobe effect. The guy with the patch is actually an other from a differnt hatch. Someone will be killed in the next episode - my guess is Mr. Ecko or possibly Rose. Other assumptions: Jack's dad is the real Sawyer, Claire is Jack's half sister, The real Henry Gale was an associate of Penny Widmore who she sent on a mission to find Desmond, and Widmore Corps supply food drops on the island and constructed the research stations.
The series will conclude when they get to the middle of the map but who knows when that will happen. They still need to find a couple more hatches and need to explain more of the character's backgrounds. I'm guessing atleast 7 seasons before they come close.
To funny last week everyone here is like the polar bears came from the jail cages. LoL so the polar bears swam to the other island?
ThePresence
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Sometimes I think the writers are just as "lost" as we are, and make this up as they go along, without some master plot.
Remember when Desmond said "we're stuck in a blood snowglobe." Maybe you could be right about Sawyer looking at their own island and he got conned again.
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