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Looks like Maduro's regime may (or may not) be collapsing in Venezuela

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Genx87 said:
How many pounds has the avg person lost in the last 18 months? 25? What a utopia for the poor these scumbags(Chavez\Maduro) have created.
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ElFenix said:
the economy has recently tanked because the US cut venezuela out of the international banking system.

Venezuela-Colombia-Oil-Production.jpg
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amazing how that coincides eh? meddling again , i thought you guys didn't want the usa to be the worlds police
 
Genx87 said:
Turns out stealing property\wealth, starving citizens, and rigging elections has consequences.
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Uhm Russia?


Somehow the west is supposed to reward Putin for subverting a country and crown himself, waging war on Ukraine, Cyber Perl Harbor on the US, Novichok ad libitum, etc etc etc...
Apparently, for Putin, the correct course of action is to lift sanctions on him.
How can anyone doubt Trump is a puppet?
 
KMFJD said:
Guaidó is merely the latest in a long line of Washington-backed Venezuelan conservatives the media has sugar-coated.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1112131499464294400

Also this:
https://fair.org/home/everyone-washington-supports-by-definition-is-a-moderate-centrist/
Shens. There is a living (un-eaten) dog in this video.

The Trump administration seems to have found their man in National Assembly leader and self-appointed president of Venezuela Juan Guaidó. Guaidó has been extremely attentive to US interests, promising to allow US oil companies to increase their activity in Venezuela. He has also pledged mass privatizations and harsh rounds of austerity, as FAIR contributor Ben Norton reported (Mint Press News, 1/24/19). Having met with and secured the support of the Trump administration before he acted, the previously unknown 35-year-old emerged as a prominent opponent of the leftist government, championed by right-wing nations in the region keen to see the end of President Nicolás Maduro’s administration.

Despite this, or rather precisely because of it, the media are presenting Guaidó not as a conservative (or further still to the right), but as a centrist social democrat who can unite a fractured nation. CBC (1/23/19) and Forbes (1/24/19) both described him as a “centrist social democrat,” the former adding that he is also an activist and a “salsa-loving baseball fan.” Others went further, claiming that he and his party are “center left” (Reuters, 1/24/19) or even “socialist” (London Independent, 1/24/19). The New York Times (3/4/19) claimed, more broadly, that Gauidó had “captured the heart of the nation” and that “a vast majority of Venezuelans support him.”
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KMFJD said:
It was good to be wealthy and middle class before Chavez for sure, poor not so much. He definitely helped the poor , then he died, oil prices dropped and Maduro happened. A return to conservative right wing government isn't really what the majority of the people(i.e. poor) seem to want.

https://www.americasquarterly.org/content/venezuela-chávez-anatomy-economic-collapse-ricardo-hausmann-and-francisco-r-rodríguez
https://oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/venezuela-latin-americas-inequality-success-story/ https://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/06/business/venezuela-chavez-oil-economy/index.html

Their economy had been steadily getting worse since their heyday in the 70's
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Don't build an economy that implodes when oil prices drop. Especially in a world trying to find an alternative to oil.
 
Genx87 said:
I remember you, you were very vocal in your complaining here when we toppled a brown country and turned it into a slave trade state. And then tried to do it again in Syria.
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I don't know what you're trying to suggest with this, but I'm opposed to American foreign intervention in almost all cases, and certainly with respect to Syria and Libya.
 
sandorski said:
Ya, I'm sure the US and Allies stealing money meant to purchase Medicine and other essentials from Venezuela has had no impact of the Venezuelan Economy. It pains me to say this, but Russia and China are acting as the "Good Guys" here. US hegemony of the Americas has been a disaster and needs to end.
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If you had to guess what would you say the impact of US sanctions were as compared to Chavez and Maduro destroying PDVSA?

US actions in the Americas being bad and Chavez/Maduro being bad are not mutually exclusive.
 
fskimospy said:
That in no way addresses my point.
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Maybe the reason Venezuelans haven’t turned on Maduro is because they recognize that the shortages are the result of sanctions, not mismanagement of the oil. Maybe they cracked a history book and discovered what happened to their neighbors after Washington crushed their revolutions and installed right wing regimes.
 
Blackjack200 said:
Maybe the reason Venezuelans haven’t turned on Maduro is because they recognize that the shortages are the result of sanctions, not mismanagement of the oil. Maybe they cracked a history book and discovered what happened to their neighbors after Washington crushed their revolutions and installed right wing regimes.
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What percentage of Venezuela’s problems do you place on their government? Ballpark.
 
sandorski said:
Ya, I'm sure the US and Allies stealing money meant to purchase Medicine and other essentials from Venezuela has had no impact of the Venezuelan Economy. It pains me to say this, but Russia and China are acting as the "Good Guys" here. US hegemony of the Americas has been a disaster and needs to end.
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You are seriously too retarded for words.
 
fskimospy said:
What percentage of Venezuela’s problems do you place on their government? Ballpark.
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Doesn’t matter what I think. What matters is what the Venezuelan people think, and they clearly support the government and see the attempted coup for what it is.

Strange bedfellows you have in this thread. Haha, not really. There’s very little difference between neoliberal and neoconservative foreign policy attitudes.
 
Blackjack200 said:
Doesn’t matter what I think. What matters is what the Venezuelan people think, and they clearly support the government and see the attempted coup for what it is.

Strange bedfellows you have in this thread. Haha, not really. There’s very little difference between neoliberal and neoconservative foreign policy attitudes.
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Pretty sure most Venezuelans do not support their Marduro when they aren't surrounded by Maduro's military enforcers and state media. It's pretty naive to convince yourself that the people overwhelmingly support Maduro.
 
Ichinisan said:
Pretty sure most Venezuelans do not support their Marduro when they aren't surrounded by Maduro's military enforcers and state media. It's pretty naive to convince yourself that the people overwhelmingly support Maduro.
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Based upon?

Do you really think this whole thing isn't just about Oil?
 
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