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Looks like godless Americans will be voting for Kerry
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MonstaThrilla
Golden Member
But he talks to God!!!!11
He's said so himself.
I think Clinton also talked to Jesus. When Monica was pleasuring him, he said: "Help me, Jesus. Help me." Then, when Hillary found out about the affair, it was: "Help me, Jesus. Help me."
I'm sure several of our presidents have had their religious connections at times. During the initial attacks of the 1st Gulf war, Billy Graham was called to the White House as a supportive person for George Bush Sr. I guess I don't see any issue with this. It's better than making a "knee jerk" reaction that one is unsure of. Maybe, taking the time to briefly ponder the morality of things for a bit isn't such a bad idea.
I'm sure several of our presidents have had their religious connections at times. During the initial attacks of the 1st Gulf war, Billy Graham was called to the White House as a supportive person for George Bush Sr. I guess I don't see any issue with this. It's better than making a "knee jerk" reaction that one is unsure of. Maybe, taking the time to briefly ponder the morality of things for a bit isn't such a bad idea.
Well, if religious faith is a litmus test for you Libs, you'd better not vote for Kerry/Edwards:
Regarding Edwards' faith:
On His Faith Journey
"...My faith has been enormous to me in my personal life and of course my personal life is a big impact on my political life. I have had an interesting faith journey over the course of my life. I was born and raised in the Southern Baptist church, I was baptized in the Southern Baptist Church and then later in life joined the Methodist church and like a lot of people, when I was in my college years, and I went to law school and became a lawyer and was raising my young family I moved away somewhat from my faith. And then I lost a son in 1996 and my faith came roaring back and it played an enormous role in my ability to get through that period. It stayed with me and has been enormously important.
On Faith's Role in Politics
"...In terms of my political life I believe there's a lot of the things that are part of my faith belief is also part of my political belief. My responsibilities to others, to help others. My work for instance, with Urban Ministries. I have been on the board of Urban Ministries for years before I went to the Senate. To provide help to the homeless in the Raleigh-Durham area in North Carolina is an example of that. So I think it's just part of my entire life."
--Interview with the Interfaith Alliance, December 3, 2003
On Prayer
"I believe that God answers prayers."
--Washington Post profile, Aug. 7, 2001
"You know the Lord is in this place. You can feel his presence."
--Campaign stop at a Sidney Park, S.C. church, Dec. 28, 2003
On Faith-Based Initiatives
"Faith is enormously important to me personally and to tens of millions of Americans. In addition, religious institutions do wonderful work and make important contributions to our society.
--Statement to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, January 7, 2004
Regarding Kerry's faith:
On Prayer
"We had guys on the boat from Arkansas, from South Carolina, from all over the place. But none of that mattered. We were a bunch of guys fighting under the same flag, praying to the same God."
--Speech at a VFW hall in Tacoma, November 2002, quoted in Vogue, March 2003
On Democrats & Religion
"We've got to prove we're as God-fearing and churchgoing as everybody else."
--Quoted in Vogue, March 2003
On Not Losing Faith
"Judy, if I do nothing else in my life I will never stop trying to bring to people the conviction of how wasteful and asinine is a human expenditure of this kind. I don't mean this in an all-consuming world saving fashion. I just mean that my own effort must be entire and thorough and that it must do what it can to help make this a better world to live in. I have not lost faith--on the contrary--I have gained a conviction and desire greater than ever before--and now, a sense of inevitability--a weighty fatalism that takes worry out of the small actions of late and makes the personal much more important."
--1968 letter to ex-wife Judy Thorme, after learning of the death of his friend Dick Pershing in Vietnam, quoted in The Atlantic, November 2003
Regarding Edwards' faith:
On His Faith Journey
"...My faith has been enormous to me in my personal life and of course my personal life is a big impact on my political life. I have had an interesting faith journey over the course of my life. I was born and raised in the Southern Baptist church, I was baptized in the Southern Baptist Church and then later in life joined the Methodist church and like a lot of people, when I was in my college years, and I went to law school and became a lawyer and was raising my young family I moved away somewhat from my faith. And then I lost a son in 1996 and my faith came roaring back and it played an enormous role in my ability to get through that period. It stayed with me and has been enormously important.
On Faith's Role in Politics
"...In terms of my political life I believe there's a lot of the things that are part of my faith belief is also part of my political belief. My responsibilities to others, to help others. My work for instance, with Urban Ministries. I have been on the board of Urban Ministries for years before I went to the Senate. To provide help to the homeless in the Raleigh-Durham area in North Carolina is an example of that. So I think it's just part of my entire life."
--Interview with the Interfaith Alliance, December 3, 2003
On Prayer
"I believe that God answers prayers."
--Washington Post profile, Aug. 7, 2001
"You know the Lord is in this place. You can feel his presence."
--Campaign stop at a Sidney Park, S.C. church, Dec. 28, 2003
On Faith-Based Initiatives
"Faith is enormously important to me personally and to tens of millions of Americans. In addition, religious institutions do wonderful work and make important contributions to our society.
--Statement to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, January 7, 2004
Regarding Kerry's faith:
On Prayer
"We had guys on the boat from Arkansas, from South Carolina, from all over the place. But none of that mattered. We were a bunch of guys fighting under the same flag, praying to the same God."
--Speech at a VFW hall in Tacoma, November 2002, quoted in Vogue, March 2003
On Democrats & Religion
"We've got to prove we're as God-fearing and churchgoing as everybody else."
--Quoted in Vogue, March 2003
On Not Losing Faith
"Judy, if I do nothing else in my life I will never stop trying to bring to people the conviction of how wasteful and asinine is a human expenditure of this kind. I don't mean this in an all-consuming world saving fashion. I just mean that my own effort must be entire and thorough and that it must do what it can to help make this a better world to live in. I have not lost faith--on the contrary--I have gained a conviction and desire greater than ever before--and now, a sense of inevitability--a weighty fatalism that takes worry out of the small actions of late and makes the personal much more important."
--1968 letter to ex-wife Judy Thorme, after learning of the death of his friend Dick Pershing in Vietnam, quoted in The Atlantic, November 2003
RabidMongoose
Lifer
I was under the assumption that people attack Bush and his religion because of his statements proclaiming that he speaks to God and attacked because God told him to.
Pretty much. I personally don't care if a candidate says, "I believe..." and all that. It's, "You should believe..." that bothers me.
Edit: After looking at that page, I'm actually surprised the numbers turned out like that. Bush did terrible on that poll, much worse than I would have thought. No big suprise that the majority of people who responded were "godless", and I know it isn't very scientific, but damn, I always knew Bush and non-believers didn't get along very well.
busmaster11
Platinum Member
This is hilarious. I'm sure all you arrogant neocons would just love to perpetuate this same misconception. If any of you "Christians" actually cared to read the Gospel I don't see how you can draw the conclusion that Jesus would be a republican (though I'd admit he'd be too disgusted to be either).
OneOfTheseDays
Diamond Member
it's sad that people place so much faith in the Bible, as if it were actually written or inspired by God.
busmaster11
Platinum Member
That the bogus theory gladly being perpetuated by the bushbaby admin (in recruiting voters via the church) and reflected in the voting patterns is that godless people vote democratic and godly people vote republican?
And that it reflects how utterly naive and arrogant Christian Americans are in general to believe that an Almighty God would bless us more because we're somehow better than everyone else...
wirelessenabled
Platinum Member
Took the words right out of my mouth.
:thumbsup:
busmaster11
Platinum Member
America is not righteous... Do not deceive yourself.
People are often no smarter than lemmings. They will often vote based on one issue alone, or vote as their friends or coworkers tell them. When I was 14 I supported bush senior because I thought he was cooler than Dukakis. I'm smarter now. 🙂
The Christian left needs to be stronger. It actually attempts to reflect God's humility and love.. The right has so far dominated with its arrogance and oftentimes borderline facist agendas.
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