Looking for new car

[dc]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
Seriously, why do people buy BRAND NEW cars? Makes no sense at all

buying a slighly used accord or camry is a much better idea.:roll:

 

[dawheat]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: supafly

There are lots of 04 TSX's on autotrader under $23,000. A new Accord will have a 3 year basic warranty, the TSX came with a 4 year warranty, so you still have ~3 years on it.

buying a year old used car is buying into someone else's problem more likely than not. even with the warranty.


seriously, an accord v6 is faster than a tsx, bigger, doesn't have to be hammered to avoid getting rear ended when on the ramp, and gets the same mileage. you'd almost have to be out of your mind to get a tsx over an accord v6.

I wouldn't get either car, but the TSX has significantly superior handling- it has quicker responses, noticibly less body roll, and IMO the steering provides more feedback (though both are pretty numb). Added up together- it'll leave an Accord quite easily in the twisties.

You also get superior interior materials and a 4 year warranty.

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
Seriously, why do people buy BRAND NEW cars? Makes no sense at all

-You're more likely to get scammed buying a used car than a brand new one.
-Often you get better APR on a new vehicle. (Sometime for 1 or 2 year old Hondas and Toyotas, you may end up paying more than a new one through financing because you failed to calculate APR).
-With new vehicles you can research invoice and MSRP instead of the debatable Kelly Blue Book value. This leads to less haggling and hassle.

To some of us it makes a lot of sense.

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: Svnla
I would pick the Accord. What about Nissan sedans? The Maxima is not bad.

Maxima is out of their range.

Base Altima (2.5/no leather) starts at $20k though. 2.5SL (leather, upgraded audio, no nav) is just shy of $25k.

Between the Camry and the Accord, I'd go with the Accord.

 

[GoingUp]

chrysler 300

 

[OS]

Accord uses better suspension than the camry. I like the engine layout more and the intake manifold isn't plastic. But most people won't even notice. A lot of the things I like about the accord most people don't care about.

Also, steering, throttle, braking, all feel mushy and vague on the camry. I guess if you want to float through life that's ok though.

 

[LtPage1]

get the accord. the camry is also a good choice, but just so much more boring.

 

[conjur]

Camry = teh b0ring


Get a loaded Mazda 3s

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: TheChort
other option

(GTI)

thats a sedan alright

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: supafly

There are lots of 04 TSX's on autotrader under $23,000. A new Accord will have a 3 year basic warranty, the TSX came with a 4 year warranty, so you still have ~3 years on it.

buying a year old used car is buying into someone else's problem more likely than not. even with the warranty.


seriously, an accord v6 is faster than a tsx, bigger, doesn't have to be hammered to avoid getting rear ended when on the ramp, and gets the same mileage. you'd almost have to be out of your mind to get a tsx over an accord v6.

First of all, they wern't looking to get a V6 Accord.

Second, I'm sick of the "buying a used car is buying into someone else's problem" mantra. Most people don't sell their cars because they're having a problem with it. Used car does not mean problematic. My car is over 7 years old. Does that mean that it must have problems if I am to ever sell it? Geesh, get that idea out of your head.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: AMDZen
Seriously, why do people buy BRAND NEW cars? Makes no sense at all

You really take the idiocy level of this forum to new levels.

People like to be the first, and only owner of their car. So they know how the car acts inside and out. People like to have warranties. People like to have brand new, untouched product when they spend their hard earned money.

There are also many situations where buying a new car is a good idea. My situation is one of them.

So in other words they let emotions get the best of them. Prolly smokers too.

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: supafly
Two boring choices IMHO.

If your family only wants a Japanese vehicle (which is quite a close-minded view), I'd at least have them look at a 2004 Acura TSX or 02-03 TL.

I'm sure you understand his budget is limit to 23,000

I dont think his parents are close minded...its just brand loyalty that honda, and toyota has created for their brand

 

[aphex]

Although i am biased (i just bought a Mazda3s two weeks ago), i have to toss the name into the pile

My only complaint about the car (coming from a Passat) is the leg room in the rear is fairly tight (granted im almost 6' so the person sitting behind me in most cars in that price range is screwed) Other than that, i LOVE the car...

I got my Mazda3s w/ Leather, Navigation, HID's, Tire Pressure Monitoring System, 4-sp Automatic, Sunroof, 6-disc In Dash CD Player, 17" Wheels, Side Sill Extensions, for $20,994 + TTT

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
chrysler 300

I was almost going to suggest that, too. Base model, after rebates and smooth talking the dealer, can be had under $20k.. throw in some options and I'm sure you can get something nice for $23k. The 2.7L 190 hp V6 might feel like a bit of a slouch in a 3700lb car tho.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: supafly

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: supafly

There are lots of 04 TSX's on autotrader under $23,000. A new Accord will have a 3 year basic warranty, the TSX came with a 4 year warranty, so you still have ~3 years on it.

buying a year old used car is buying into someone else's problem more likely than not. even with the warranty.


seriously, an accord v6 is faster than a tsx, bigger, doesn't have to be hammered to avoid getting rear ended when on the ramp, and gets the same mileage. you'd almost have to be out of your mind to get a tsx over an accord v6.

First of all, they wern't looking to get a V6 Accord.

Second, I'm sick of the "buying a used car is buying into someone else's problem" mantra. Most people don't sell their cars because they're having a problem with it. Used car does not mean problematic. My car is over 7 years old. Does that mean that it must have problems if I am to ever sell it? Geesh, get that idea out of your head.

Buying a late model used honda or toyota is a retarded idea. The resale value is too high, there is inherent risk in the vehicles history and nearly all of their cars are cheap and can be bought at invoice prices.

I have an 03 accord, I paid 18K for it. It has 40K miles and as of a couple weeks ago, the same exact car/trim/mileage on auto trader still goes for 16K or so.

 

[CombatChuk]

I'd seriously look at the Mazda 6i or 6s. It's got good style and it's fairly comfortable. You'll also stick out a little (since everyone has either a Camry or Accord).

But out of the two mentioned before, I'd say the Camry. Toyota's been the most consistent w/reliability.

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: supafly
Two boring choices IMHO.

If your family only wants a Japanese vehicle (which is quite a close-minded view), I'd at least have them look at a 2004 Acura TSX or 02-03 TL.

I'm sure you understand his budget is limit to 23,000

I dont think his parents are close minded...its just brand loyalty that honda, and toyota has created for their brand

Yes, thats why I suggested used cars, as I explained futher in posts after that one.

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: supafly

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: supafly

There are lots of 04 TSX's on autotrader under $23,000. A new Accord will have a 3 year basic warranty, the TSX came with a 4 year warranty, so you still have ~3 years on it.

buying a year old used car is buying into someone else's problem more likely than not. even with the warranty.


seriously, an accord v6 is faster than a tsx, bigger, doesn't have to be hammered to avoid getting rear ended when on the ramp, and gets the same mileage. you'd almost have to be out of your mind to get a tsx over an accord v6.

First of all, they wern't looking to get a V6 Accord.

Second, I'm sick of the "buying a used car is buying into someone else's problem" mantra. Most people don't sell their cars because they're having a problem with it. Used car does not mean problematic. My car is over 7 years old. Does that mean that it must have problems if I am to ever sell it? Geesh, get that idea out of your head.

Buying a late model used honda or toyota is a retarded idea. The resale value is too high, there is inherent risk in the vehicles history and nearly all of their cars are cheap and can be bought at invoice prices.

I have an 03 accord, I paid 18K for it. It has 40K miles and as of a couple weeks ago, the same exact car/trim/mileage on auto trader still goes for 16K or so.

So buying a 2004 TSX for $23k is retarded, but if they had the money, buying a 2005 TSX for over $27k wouldn't be?
Also, I didn't suggest buying a used Accord or Camry. I suggest getting a used, but nicer car (TSX or TL). Why limit yourself to cars you can buy by only thinking new is the way to go? There is nothing wrong with used. Nothing.

 

[aphex]

There is nothing wrong with used. Nothing.

Haha, right... I treat my cars well, yet i feel bad for the person the dealer unloads the car onto, there was a REASON i got rid of it in the first place, and now that next person is stuck with that reason

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: supafly
So buying a 2004 TSX for $23k is retarded, but if they had the money, buying a 2005 TSX for over $27k wouldn't be?
Also, I didn't suggest buying a used Accord or Camry. I suggest getting a used, but nicer car (TSX or TL). Why limit yourself to cars you can buy by only thinking new is the way to go? There is nothing wrong with used. Nothing.

Only a moron buys a car at sticker price, which is what you listed for the 2005 TSX.

And yes, buying an 04 TSX for 23K is retarded considering a NEW LX V6 accord invoices 21K. The TSX is a joke, it's small, expensive and slow. In fact it's barely any faster than a 4 cylinder accord.

Sure the handling is better, but considering this is his parents car, I doubt they will be interested in exploiting the difference in handling.

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: aphex

There is nothing wrong with used. Nothing.

Haha, right... I treat my cars well, yet i feel bad for the person the dealer unloads the car onto, there was a REASON i got rid of it in the first place, and now that next person is stuck with that reason

Sh!t, I treat my car like crap, and it still doesn't have any problems. Cars don't fall apart that easily...
And when you're buying a late model car with warranty still intact, like I suggested, what do you have to worry about?

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: supafly
So buying a 2004 TSX for $23k is retarded, but if they had the money, buying a 2005 TSX for over $27k wouldn't be?
Also, I didn't suggest buying a used Accord or Camry. I suggest getting a used, but nicer car (TSX or TL). Why limit yourself to cars you can buy by only thinking new is the way to go? There is nothing wrong with used. Nothing.

Only a moron buys a car at sticker price, which is what you listed for the 2005 TSX.

And yes, buying an 04 TSX for 23K is retarded considering a NEW LX V6 accord invoices 21K. The TSX is a joke, it's small, expensive and slow. In fact it's barely any faster than a 4 cylinder accord.

Sure the handling is better, but considering this is his parents car, I doubt they will be interested in exploiting the difference in handling.

I'd still take the TSX over the Accord.

In real life, would I ever buy any of the cars talked about in this thread? No. I'm just trying to open his parents up to new suggestions. There are so many choices in cars.. to limit yourself to just two cars.. or just Japanese cars.. you're losing out.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: supafly

Originally posted by: aphex

There is nothing wrong with used. Nothing.

Haha, right... I treat my cars well, yet i feel bad for the person the dealer unloads the car onto, there was a REASON i got rid of it in the first place, and now that next person is stuck with that reason

Sh!t, I treat my car like crap, and it still doesn't have any problems. Cars don't fall apart that easily...
And when you're buying a late model car with warranty still intact, like I suggested, what do you have to worry about?

Ya have to wonder though, what would someone hate/dislike so much about a car to trade it in after only 10, 12, 15k miles?

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: supafly

Originally posted by: aphex

There is nothing wrong with used. Nothing.

Haha, right... I treat my cars well, yet i feel bad for the person the dealer unloads the car onto, there was a REASON i got rid of it in the first place, and now that next person is stuck with that reason

Sh!t, I treat my car like crap, and it still doesn't have any problems. Cars don't fall apart that easily...
And when you're buying a late model car with warranty still intact, like I suggested, what do you have to worry about?

Ya have to wonder though, what would someone hate/dislike so much about a car to trade it in after only 10, 12, 15k miles?

Maybe they got a raise, wanted something more expensive? Or got fired, need something cheaper?

I knew one lady that got a new car every year, even if she only put 10k on it - for no other reason than that she wanted to have a new car every year.

 

[bigj3347]

For safety . . why not look at the Volvo S40? i think its around 24,000.