LOOK----448core gtx560 ti review

[SirPauly]

I think it is brilliant engineering and planning to have the flexibility to create different sku's. Marketing is so over-rated to me.

 

[dust]

^You always seem to be the voice of reason here, but there's something that makes me think you're just a corporate man. Either way, people will always enjoy to disagree on various points, no one needs defending, corporations least of all.

 

[ManBearPig]

How's this vs a 2gb 6950? Should I buy the new 560 Ti for like $30 more?

 

[apoppin]

How's this vs a 2gb 6950? Should I buy the new 560 Ti for like $30 more?

Personally, i think it does really well - especially if you pick a factory-overclocked one or overclock it yourself:
These are *different* charts from the O/C'd ones

And here you go - the EVGA GTX 560 Ti 448 Core FTW side by side with the HD 6950 2GB - both are at their stock clocks and both can be overclocked further

 

[SirPauly]

^You always seem to be the voice of reason here, but there's something that makes me think you're just a corporate man. Either way, people will always enjoy to disagree on various points, no one needs defending, corporations least of all.

I think people will enjoy to agree and disagree on various points. I think people defend their various points, usually surrounded by the IHV's products, strategies, engineering prowess, features and what these products do for their gaming experiences and their lives.

I also think, forums would be pretty empty and boring without the work that AMD and nVidia do. Personally appreciate their engineering abilities.

 

[slightlyhuman]

just ordered one.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...ti+448&x=0&y=0

 

[ManBearPig]

kinda pricey.

 

[toyota]

I paid WAY less than that for my gtx570 plus it came with batman AC.

 

[Grooveriding]

just ordered one.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...ti+448&x=0&y=0

Is this card seriously $320 to $350 ? It can't be that much, the 570 costs that much. That's the problem with a card like this, the difference between a 560ti and 570 being so small, slotting another card in between is just going to lead to failure on its pricing for the consumer.

Just checked, looks like that is the normal pricing. Here is my usual etailor here who charges normal prices. $340...

http://ncix.com/search/?categoryid=0&q=560+ti+448


Epic rip-off for this card. Just get a 570 if you want nvidia, or a 6950 2GB:

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60103&vpn=AX6950 2GBD5-2DH&manufacture=PowerColor&promoid=1115 $220AR

 

[Miklebud]

Holy shit. ~$320 for this? I was waiting for this to come out before I made up my mind on a new video card. Doesn't look like I'll be picking this up.

 

[slightlyhuman]

i had $30 in amazon credit. got it for under $300. kind of debating about canceling and grabbing a used 570 for less but the 'just launched' feedback on the sellers account scares me.

 

[Corporate Thug]

this is just the initial markup...MSRP supposed to be $289. I would still take a ~$240 6950 2gb over this, esp with the prospect of modding to a 6970.

 

[Subyman]

Eh, I was hoping for the card to be priced at the 6950 level and split the difference between a 570 and a 560TI, not be a slightly discounted 570.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Good card with bad pricing.

As far as memory goes my gtx 480 overclocked to 824 core consistently uses 1200-1400mb of memory in BF3 ultra settings MP. Is it taking advantage of the memory or just caching it?

 

[notty22]

You can buy the EVGA GTX 560-448 Classified for 299.99 directly from EVGA
http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...s%20Family&sw=
Or the FTW model for the msrp of 289.99
http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...s%20Family&sw=

 

[RussianSensation]

$289 MSRP for this card? Way too much $$ imho. Why would anyone pay almost $300 for a 12-month old generation, especially with new generation of GPUs just 1 quarter away?

Anyone else notice the prices of 6950/6970/GTX570 have actually increased on Newegg? .....

HD6950 2GB is still $240 <Pretty much the same price as at the beginning of the year!!> I've seen 6950 2GB for $210 just 2 weeks ago.

6970 is almost $330 after shipping, and these were selling for $290-300 on the Egg not long ago.

GTX570 is $325. I've seen these dip to $250-260, easily.

GTX580 is now almost $500!

Holiday price increases?

Who would have thought that these cards would be selling within $20-30 of their MSRPs after being released 12 months ago. This is the worst time to buy a videocard in the last 2 years unless you happen to get on a good deal.

 

[exar333]

Less than $300 it's not a bad deal.

I would only choose this over a 6950 2GB if you played mostly games that NV dominates the performance metrics in. Otherwise, the 6950 2GB is just a better card for the money. If you get unlockable 6950s to 6970 performance, buying anything other than a GTX 580 for the straight performance just doesn't make sense to me. Outside of needing/wanting CUDA or Physx, 3dvision, etc.

 

[ManBearPig]

Is physx important to have? Is it really beneficial?

 

[Grooveriding]

Is physx important to have? Is it really beneficial?

This question will cause a ****storm. Worthless imo, gpu physx only works in 16 games, 70&#37; of those games are utter trash. If you are getting an nvidia card anyways it lets you turn the feature on in one of those games.

It's not relevant or valuable enough to affect a purchasing decision though.

 

[RussianSensation]

Less than $300 it's not a bad deal.

HD5870 delivers very similar performance and that card was $360 more than 2 years ago.

GTX560 Ti 448 is only 14&#37; faster than an HD6950 1GB ~ HD5870 at 1920x1200 4AA/16AF. At 8AA, that difference shrinks to just 8%. Also, GTX560 Ti overclocks to GTX570 speeds and costs $200. But in DX11 games (see same 14% link), the difference shrinks even more. The reason GTX560 Ti 448 is pulling away is because AMD cards do poorly in Lost Planet 2, BattleForce and with AA with Starcraft 2 (but MLAA fixes that).

The most disappointing part here is that NV missed an opportunity to deliver a card with unbeatable price performance in this high-end segment. At $289, they hardly shook up the GPU landscape. We've actually seen GTX570s dip below $289 with rebates on many occasions. If NV priced this at $199-219, it would have shaken up the landscape. But for almost $300? Disappointing.

For $299 a highly overclocked EVGA Classified moves close to GTX 580 performance territory. That makes it a very good value in my book for overclockers. And the 448 core Ti will TriSLI for the enthusiasts.

Ok, but GTX570 hovered around that price for 6+ months and could also be overclocked to GTX580 speeds. HD6950 2GB could be unlocked into a 6970 12 months ago. NV barely dropped the price here. I am looking at it in the overall context of performance vs. price for this entire generation. $290+ for a 12 month old generation that frankly for Fermi goes to March 2010 is way too expensive. It might look cheap vs. a GTX580 right now, but that doesn't say much since GTX580 represents horrible value to begin with. I mean in the last 2-3 days, HD5970 was $299 on Newegg....

There is not a single demanding game on the horizon for the PC in the next 4-5 months (maybe Syndicate). Why would you spend almost $300 on a card that is barely better than a $200 HD6950 1GB or GTX560 Ti? GTX560 Ti 448 won't really provide any more playability than an overclocked GTX 560 Ti. You can always resell the 560 Ti and put that $90-100 savings towards an HD7900 series card. What do you think the HD7000 series at $350 is going to do to this card next quarter?

 

[nitrousninja]

I was hoping it would be cheaper. I guess I'll hang on to my GTX460 1G a while longer.

 

[exar333]

Seriously? HD5870 delivers very similar performance and that card was $360 more than 2 years ago.

GTX560 Ti 448 is only 14% faster than an HD6950 1GB ~ HD5870 at 1920x1200 4AA/16AF. At 8AA, that difference shrinks to just 8%. Also, GTX560 Ti overclocks to GTX570 speeds and costs $200.

The most disappointing part here is that NV missed an opportunity to deliver a card with unbeatable price performance in this high-end segment. At $289, they hardly shook up the GPU landscape. Disappointing.

It's not a terrible buy. I never said it was great...

If you can get a good free game or rebate with it, its priced 'OK'. Not to different than the existing NV products.

As I said, the 6950 2GB is a better buy unless you want/need NV-sepcific features or games that prefer NV hardware for performance.

 

[RussianSensation]

As I said, the 6950 2GB is a better buy unless you want/need NV-sepcific features or games that prefer NV hardware for performance.

Agreed, even the HD6950 1GB card is. If you take out outliers like AA in SC2, Tessellation advantage in Lost Planet 2, the difference in performance falls within 10&#37; but GTX560 Ti 448 costs at least 30% more.

If you look closely at DX11 benchmarks, GTX560 448 is actually not providing any more playability. Both cards often run with 3-4 fps of each other, or are both unplayable in the 27 vs. 31 fps range. For overclocking bang for the buck, a $200 GTX560 Ti also takes the cake.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Damn, Russian hit the nail on the head, over and over again.

 

[skipsneeky2]

What a disappointment i was hoping for pricing in the $250 range..not so close to the gtx570.

Oh well choice is simple for my new build with it being the gtx570 now.