LOOK----448core gtx560 ti review

[exar333]

Damn, Russian hit the nail on the head, over and over again.

Agreed.

The big fail in this review was not reviewing the OC ability of the 560 Ti. The 570 already is a great OC GPU, as well the 560. How does this compare? The review was strangely silent in this respect.

 

[toyota]

Agreed.

The big fail in this review was not reviewing the OC ability of the 560 Ti. The 570 already is a great OC GPU, as well the 560. How does this compare? The review was strangely silent in this respect.

sorry but on average the gtx570 is not a great overclocker at all. its pure luck and results can vary wildly. mine is really odd in that the memory will oc like crazy compared to most other gtx570 cards but the core itself is a dud and needs extra voltage just for a 20mhz oc to be perfectly stable. not to mention that the reference gtx570 is not robust at all and can easily be damaged compared to a gtx580/gtx480/gtx470.

 

[Leyawiin]

It was just released - there are rarely bargains on the first day of sales. Give it a couple weeks.

 

[exar333]

sorry but on average the gtx570 is not a great overclocker at all. its pure luck and results can vary wildly. mine is really odd in that the memory will oc like crazy compared to most other gtx570 cards but the core itself is a dud and needs extra voltage just for a 20mhz oc to be perfectly stable. not to mention that the reference gtx570 is not robust at all and can easily be damaged compared to a gtx580/gtx480/gtx470.

Your right! I was thinking of the GTX 470....my bad.

 

[exar333]

It was just released - there are rarely bargains on the first day of sales. Give it a couple weeks.

True, but the life-span is already limited.

Kind of a catch-22. Buy 1, and you will have a tough time getting another one later for SLI. Buy 2, one fails, who knows what you get in return when it's replaced. Not very enticing IMHO.

 

[ocre]

Agreed.

The big fail in this review was not reviewing the OC ability of the 560 Ti. The 570 already is a great OC GPU, as well the 560. How does this compare? The review was strangely silent in this respect.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_n560gtx448_pe/

every game and resolution on this review has an overclocked comparison. What is great is every card is overclocked in it as well. So you get to see the 570 OC vs the 560ti OC vs gtx560 448 OC vs 6950 OC......you get the poinht.

check it out, its pretty neat

 

[notty22]

It was just released - there are rarely bargains on the first day of sales. Give it a couple weeks.

Agreed.
Techpowerup got a 11% o/c for a 10% improvement. So if you want to compare it to a 6950 that has to bios flashed and o/c to compete with a 6970. It's a option. I don't hear alot of comment on proven stability on unlocked and o/c 6950's. We will see what owners of these have to report to tell more of the story.

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If NVIDIA set out to fill a vacuum between the standard GeForce GTX 560 Ti and GeForce GTX 570, it more than achieved it with the new GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 cores. Cards based on this new SKU are priced somewhere in between the price-points of the two, but the performance measured shows it's tilting precariously close to the GTX 570. And why shouldn't it? The new GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores has everything the GTX 570 has - GF110 GPU, 1280 MB of memory over a 320 bit GDDR5 memory interface, 40 ROPs, and even the same reference clock speeds. It's just that the GTX 570 has about 7% more CUDA cores.
Is this all sounding too good to be true? Well, here's the catch. First, the GTX 560 Ti 448 cores is a "Limited Edition" product, meaning that limited quantities of it will be produced. We think North American and European markets should digest all cards made in this winter shopping season alone. Next, it's a "Limited Availability" product, meaning that it will be available only in select North American and European markets.
ZOTAC's GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores comes at the highest out-of-the-box overclock of all the cards tested today, which gives it a slight performance advantage. When taking additional overclocking into account, the card's maximum frequencies are about in the middle of our test group. One reason could be the cooler, which seems a bit small for a card in this performance class - we didn't experience any problems though. The compact cooler results in a fairly compact card overall, especially when compared to the much larger cards from ASUS and MSI that we tested today. This makes the ZOTAC card interesting for users with smaller cases. Another point for the ZOTAC card: it's the cheapest of the three cards we tested today, coming at NVIDIA's MSRP of $289.
The GTX 560 Ti 448 cores has slightly higher power draw compared to the standard GTX 560 Ti, it's based the larger GF110 silicon, though its performance per Watt warrants it. Overall, the GTX 560 Ti 448 cores is a great deal for its $289~$300 price range, but limited availability could be its downfall.

A few months ago, there were 130.00 dollar 5850's available new and some chose to pay double for a 6950.
The market is always changing.

 

[toyota]

how can the pixel fillrate only be 23.7? 40 ROPs x 848 would be 33.9.

 

[slightlyhuman]

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_n560gtx448_pe/

every game and resolution on this review has an overclocked comparison. What is great is every card is overclocked in it as well. So you get to see the 570 OC vs the 560ti OC vs gtx560 448 OC vs 6950 OC......you get the poinht.

check it out, its pretty neat

really blows my mind that they don't do bf3 instead of BC2.
wtf

 

[RussianSensation]

A few months ago, there were 130.00 dollar 5850's available new and some chose to pay double for a 6950.
The market is always changing.

What? I don't know anyone who was considering a $130 card like the 5850 and then paid $260 for an HD6950 out of the blue. People who are looking to buy a $130-150 card don't just suddenly raise their budget to $250-275. I just don't see the value of dropping almost $300 when new generation is just around the corner. Maybe it's just me but I'd rather grab a GTX560 Ti for $199 / HD6950 for similar price and call it a day. $100 savings is a lot of $ for a 10-14% performance difference. That $100 will prob. net an extra 30-40% performance in the next generation of cards after you resell the 6950/GTX560 Ti.

 

[Vesku]

Yeah, the card itself seems OK but seems to be a holiday card. They are trying to part people from their GPU money before the new Radeons show up. Granted some people might be making Christmas gifts out of them and that is a time sensitive purchase. Still, I would suggest a thoughtful non-computer gift for X-mas and surprise them with a 7000 series when they show up.

 

[badb0y]

I don't hear alot of comment on proven stability on unlocked and o/c 6950's.

What would you like to know?

 

[Fear No Evil]

I picked one up. I had to replace a GTX 275 768mb that I have in my main rig (Now upgraded to an I7-2600k running at 4.6ghz). Plus I had a $100 Amazon GC to use. Probably overpaying a bit but it should be a nice upgrade over the 275.

 

[slightlyhuman]

wow. they are all out of stock but the prices are already dropped:

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Dual-Dual...604016&sr=1-12

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-CLASSIFIE...604016&sr=1-11

i paid $316 for the FTW version this morning. fuck you amazon.

 

[slightlyhuman]

msi back in stock

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-N560GTX-Ti...2604249&sr=1-1

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

I really hope they offer versions with 2560mb of VRAM for not much more.

 

[tigersty1e]

I think the engineers/product managers who didn't "catch" or "think" people were going to be able to flash some 465 cards to 470 cards got some heat. (pun intended)

They aren't making the same mistake twice. (pun intended... you know because fermi was released twice... haha too funny i know)

 

[ocre]

Cards sell good during the holidays. This is why you see the prices up right now on both sides.

 

[Subyman]

Why anyone would pay 300+ for this card is beyond me. Just get a 570 for 10-20 more.

 

[slightlyhuman]

yeah i wish i waited until this afternoon or even later but fuck it, it's my xmas present for myself(and bf3). i haven't upgraded anything since early last year for bc2. i got it for $298 with 2 day shipping.

 

[Silverforce11]

Hmm, does overclockersclub get sponsored by NV? Their game selection are almost all TWIMTBP games that nobody even plays anymore.

HAWX2, Lost Planet 2 and Unigine all together? Seriously, way to discredit yourself. Fail.

 

[Leyawiin]

True, but the life-span is already limited.

Kind of a catch-22. Buy 1, and you will have a tough time getting another one later for SLI. Buy 2, one fails, who knows what you get in return when it's replaced. Not very enticing IMHO.

That's not a concern of mine. I don't SLI and neither do many people. I'd wager from looking at your hardware SLI isn't a concern of yours either. If you need a good (single) midrange card right now I don't see how the production and marketing time line is an issue.

i paid $316 for the FTW version this morning. **** you amazon.

Did you buy from them? They'll honor it - just call.

 

[slightlyhuman]

That's not a concern of mine. I don't SLI and neither do many people. I'd wager from looking at your hardware SLI isn't a concern of yours either. If you need a good (single) midrange card right now I don't see how the production and marketing time line is an issue.



Did you buy from them? They'll honor it - just call.

oh really now? awesome. so i might be getting it for $270ish(had $29 in points i used)

 

[RussianSensation]

Why anyone would pay 300+ for this card is beyond me. Just get a 570 for 10-20 more.

Exactly. With $15 coupon, you can get this Asus GTX570 for $305.

HD6950 1GB can be found for $210. A $289 448 core is 38% more expensive. Even the 2GB 6950 with good cooler can be found for $230 and it has a good chance of an unlock.

 

[RaistlinZ]

Meh. I'm still holding onto my trusty 5870 until the next generation cards show up.